U.s. States Going To Hell

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  1. watcherchris

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    And I would like to thank you as well Olde Geezer. I have been verily enjoying your flourish with words in your posts and of late.
    Well done and not the standard bill of fare on here.


    I should like to take the opportunity for the membership here in stating that I am not a Republican....not happening.

    I don't trust the Republicans any more than do I the Democrats....or the left.

    The Republicans are to me nothing more than Democrat Lite.


    I am a Conservative .....not a Republican. I have a distrust of politicians across the board.

    I mostly want to be left alone in my life with my property earned and sometimes at great risks.


    That is how I know about people and risk taking......because many times in my life...occupation I have been out there on the edge of the razor blade so to speak...and knowing you have to come back tomorrow and do it again.

    This experience/knowledge has caused me to take a closer look at what many people take for granted ..including someone else's risk taking.

    These people looting and destroying other peoples property/businesses/homes et al. Are they they kind of people with knowledge of risk taking to restore said property..homes....businesses???

    You see....???

    This is why, to me, they are nothing more than Ishmaelites...two legged wildlife...and I want no part of them in my life.

    No one seems want to bring up this kind of view when posting such news about the engineered chaos going on around the country.


    Am very very concerned that this Hell on Earth Dogma will run wild between now and the election ..and even aftewords...by just such entitlement minded non Risk taking people and groups.

    To me ...someone is trying to put the Non Risk takers ahead of the Risk takers by default until certain goals are reached.....after which these non risk takers will be cast to the side as an expired convenience....if history serves me correctly.

    But in the mean time..it will be chaos and hell ...manufactured for just such political/social purposes.

    Two legged Ishmaelite wildlife run wild...

    I pray that American becomes disgusted and tired of this leftist two legged wildlife..



    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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      Thnx for the compliment. As to politics, I haven't a clue as to what party I would belong to. Libertarian, maybe. A weak military always leads to war, so I'm conservative that way. Environmental issues finds me a bit to the left -- cutting trees in rain-forests and old growth forests in the N.W. USA are big no-noes and I'd like to see the Army Corps of Engineers riding quality control shotgun on several industrial areas (I'm very familiar with that world). There is not and never will be a true Common Sense Party.
       
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  2. Max rigger

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    City I'm in is like a graveyard, very very quiet. I took a walk last night to the marina, beautiful private boats moored with very few showing lights. Found a McDonald's last night got take out food, same today in a tapas place. Its a beautiful city and sad to see it quiet like this. Don't get me wrong still people about but normally its a hustle bustle place. Just had a couple of beers, outdoor table with full table service. Got a bank account opened and viewed two properties, one is a no no but the second was great, seeing more tomorrow.
     
  3. lonewolf

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    may be they have a curfew like the UK has as from today.
    maybe their just all obeying the rules.
     
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  4. Max rigger

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    No tourists Lonewolf, there are some but there would normally be a lot more. Off out for something to eat then back to watch a film/movie or two I bought out on a USB stick eat cake and drink a couple of shots of the single malt I will buy on my way back. This is the cheapest overseas trip I've done in years.

    Viewing a property up in the hills in the morning.
     
  5. TexDanm

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    The Democrats and Republicans are not the same Chris. If the Republicans could have their way all industry would be shipped out to other countries and the Rich would own EVERYTHING and the rest of us would be nothing until they got around to exterminating any of us that were not serving them. The Democrats would just shut down all of our polluting evil industries and the Rich would own and rule but the Minorities, especially those that refuse to work, would be given food, homes, cars, and expensive sneakers while the rest of us worked in government-run labor camps to support them...We are already sort of going there.
     
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  6. lonewolf

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    dosent seem to be much difference between the 2 parties then Tex, one you get exterminated the other your in work camps until you drop.
    sounds a bit like Nazism or the Russian labour camps, thought we'd moved on in the last 75 years.
     
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  7. TexDanm

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    When nobody has a job people either do what they are told or starve to death. The end result for the middle class is NOT much different. As the Republicans support moving all the industry to places with fewer restrictions they are also trying to do away with any assistance to the people whose lives they are destroying. The Democrats are pushing the companies out as hard and fast as they can with ever-increasing regulations and more and more taxes. Taxing a company is stupid. When you tax a company you are just taking money out of the pockets of the people that work there. The stockholders are not going to lose money and will just dump a losing stock and move there money to someplace more profitable. You tax people. That way those that have the most pay the most and by that I mean as a percentage of their income. Ten Thousand is everything to a poor man but almost nothing to a billionaire. We have plenty of billionaires.

    The Democrats seem to want EVERYONE on welfare. They are so ignorant that they don't understand that money that isn't backed by some sort of production is nothing more than bad toilet paper. Many of their hopes seem to be to make it so that everyone has to live in one of the megacities. Without cars, people in rural places will slowly go broke and lose their homes. Without industry, we will have nothing to offer for trade.

    Look at what the lives they are pushing for is like for those fortunate people that live. Drug infested hell holes with crime as a major part of everyday life. Isn't that what everyone should want for their family. Our Government is becoming a festering mess. When meat rots you throw it out you don't just spray it with something to cover up the smell and live with it.
     
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  8. poltiregist

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    I have been prepping for years for It to hit the fan . We seem to now be in the early stages of bedlam . My mindset is now turning into a bunker mentality . Sit in my bugout location and watch the Democrat rats destroy their own rat nests and in the mean time thinning out their own kind with their mindless killings . When they have fouled up their own selves enough , they will spill into the areas responsible people have set up hoping they can pillage what the working people have accumulated . That is when some serious killing will began . --- I harnessed up my bloodhound this evening , making sure the harness fit right for some serious trailing man or beast .
     
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  9. Pragmatist

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    Good morning all,

    I've got an example to offer.

    This examples illustrates some of the involved political dynamics.

    The Cheaspeake Bay once had a large and thriving fishing industry (includes the "shellfish" categories). Besides being overfished concurrent with a larger area population placing stress on everything in the area, a governmental matter can be seen.

    Ther domestic US fishing industry was ultra-regulated from safety to resource deplection prevention ... all the rest. This is an expensive event. I'm surely not saying that safety is bad; just expensive from some views.

    Concurrent with the domestic Chesapeake Bay fishing environment, the US import regulations and tariff allow for very low cost (relatively speaking) seafood to enter the US market. Go to a grocery store and glance at the cans' label with country of origin. These overseas places are not famous for safety, hygiene, and the other aspects of goodness. Check the prices.
     
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  10. Max rigger

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    The UK is in reality a one party state these days, the Labour party has no leadership, no clear and viable economic/social policies that make sense and the ruling right wing tory party seem hell bent on driving down the economic suicide path so we're stuffed.

    There is a great show coming back to our screens, you can watch it in the States if you subscribe to https://www.britbox.co.uk/ which has thousands of quality British TV programmes. The show is Spitting Image, a puppet show that takes the pee out of politcs and celebs, it no holds barred so don't watch this trailer if your easily offended



    I was too young to see the show when it first aired years ago but I've downloaded the old shows and find them very very cutting but funny.
     
  11. lonewolf

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    I dont think I'd call the Conservatives "right wing" but Labour is so far to the Left and so full of Marxists that is just looks like they are.
     
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  12. Max rigger

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    Johnson is right wing and I've no doubt that without covid he'd have sold off the NHS by now, he can't split it up too much now but when they get back into power he will I've no doubt. When people went totally stupid and voted for Brexit I applied for an Irish passport so I can still move and work easily in the EU, millions of brits will now be stuck on this crowded lump of rock...poor B******s.
     
  13. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    Glad you're making progress on thr house hunting.

    If EU membership gives member citizens mobility to work in member countires, can't, for example, citizens of Macrdonia and Bulgaria work in the UK and ask for lower wages thus replacing British workers ?

    Only indirectly related to my question; ...... never understood the Northern Ireland "backdoor" to the EU arrangement. For that matter, still don't understand the UK's devolution arrangements.
     
  14. lonewolf

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    I really dont think the European Union will be around much longer, its heading for recession and the Germans will have to put more in after 1/1/2021 and they wont like that, with Greece and a few other countries on their uppers it wont last long.
    if someone thinks Johnson is right wing they've got a funny definition of right wing, right wing is BNP, Britain First or the National Front not a load of toffy nosed tories.
     
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  15. Old Geezer

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    Once I knew Brits as friends and acquaintances -- now I do not. It has been decades that. Now, what I know, is mostly only that which I have read. Yes, there are Brits at work (physicians, medical, high-tech), but I do not know them well enough to just, out of the blue, chat them up -- and heaven forbid, that the conversation topic be of any political nature.

    Something that differs mightily (horribly, maddeningly) between this current world and decades back is that no one sits down and has in-depth conversations . I used to sit down and simply have happy long talks with very different people than myself (hours of debate into early morning, lots of hot tea, teas prepared by folk who weren't Americans). These talks involved some young Americans (the over-educated like myself), people from other countries (several who had escaped from Iran, post-shah-Pavlavi), plus older/wiser people from all over (there was a University nearby). One shuts their mouth when an elder speaks; education vs. experience -- experience crushes any formal education. Yes, I did come up with some "educated" thoughts, to which I would hear, "Oh, how very nice," then the wise would vivisect my thoughts, burn my very premise like cigarette paper. Though embarrassing, it was intensely enlightening. As a child, I could get slapped for speaking when an elder had the floor. As a young man, I learned why that discipline.

    When I was a kid, my world had few children and I didn't particularly get along with them (I thought children acted like children, never really was a child myself). My world was mainly composed of an overwhelming number of older men and women (all born before 1930, half born before 1910). I was expected to act like an adult at age 8.

    The above is that which educated me and biased me.

    But I do talk to other Americans for sure. Mostly they lean to the left. Right now in history, what I've heard and what I perceive has it that a lot of Americans see the political climate in London and the other large cities of Britain as being divided between the Left and the ultra-Left.

    When a youth, I was taught by older generations and people from other nations what happens when religion becomes corrupted, when governments become centralized. Hell follows. I personally knew those who had had to escape persecutions and pogroms. I've witnesses the faces of those who still had family back in the hell-hole countries from which they fled.

    I also have witnessed biologic cancers eat people. Now I watch the cancer of communism springing back up with the intent to eat the nations of the West. Surgery, chemo, biologics, radiation, ... one wonders how the war will be fought this time. I smell the smell of the cancer ward.
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  16. Old Geezer

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  17. Max rigger

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    So long as she leaves her Catholicism at the door and is neutral in her judgments then there should be no problems.

    " Right now in history, what I've heard and what I perceive has it that a lot of Americans see the political climate in London and the other large cities of Britain as being divided between the Left and the ultra-Left."

    I can sort of see how you could believe that, there are a lot of socialists who talk the talk but in reality are weekend socialists. Big problem with the far left is that the further left they drift the more dictatorial they become, in essence they become far right.

    I would say that if you scratch the surface the UK is more right wing now than its been in a hundred years or more.
     
  18. watcherchris

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    LOL LOL LOL Max.....LOL LOL....

    Classic....Thank You..

    Again....thank you ....



    Unbeknownst to most people with a public school ....even to college levels education....there is a very devout religion going on out here with a very zealous and devout tenor to it yet undetectable to the average person raised on a steady diet of television and or movies.


    This very devout and zealous religion is called Politics....and in like manner to many whores ...it will not brook any competition ..even unto today...even competition in thoughts...ideas...et al....and now even speech...
    And soon enough Max..to morph into fear and intimidation by government....Da Tovarich!!?

    People have to become educated....programmed not to detect it for what it really is......Occult...Even Demonic ...in how it does a 180 degree flip flop....on peoples thinking and understandings...

    Not only that Max....the body politic finances public education to insure that no one or even very few catch onto it....it's real maddening sometimes insane nature.

    Know much about counterfeits Max?????


    This fingerprint....Max...is exactly what is going on here in America when you realize that the Republican's are not Conservatives but only Democrat Lite....Left and Ultra Left....but always moving left.....

    Now...the one President who is trying to be Conservative and in favor of the American People themselves and both the Democrats many of the Republicans do not like him....
    And this Max...to an almost maddening insane degree..again verifying for me what is not intended for the Average American to know or understand... or see!!

    That right there Max tells me what I need to know....
    One needs not a degree to see it for what it is...

    Did the Brits leave here after the War of 1812 or find another way to sneak in the back door???

    Your statements are not far off the mark Max....Thank You.
    Nice shooting Max.....

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    U.S. banks are protected by law from showing their books ... even to their stock-holders. The banks are dead. In Europe, Greek, Spanish, Italian banks are gone. The West in general is getting ready for the timbers to let go. Here's info on conditions in Spain.

    https://www.news18.com/news/busines...ourism-woes-bode-ill-for-rebound-2747785.html

    The socialists are angry about the EU not being far enough to the left, bemoan business owners being propped-up. Socialists wish to see Chinacovid bankrupt nations so that all-powerful central government can replace constitutional governments.
    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/03/euro-a03.html

    https://wolfstreet.com/2020/09/12/how-spain-became-a-squatters-paradise/
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  21. Max rigger

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    I don't see the EU as being far left at all; more social aware, more prepared to provide for people but remember the EU needs unskilled labour and that is where a large part of immigrants end up, doing jobs the locals won't do. The left wing badge comes from social provision which I'm all in favour of but look on every street corner in the west and you'll find owners from India/Pakistan/far east working 90 hours a week for not a lot of profit, if it was easy it would still be ma and pa shops, the immigrants filled the gap left by ma and pa's kids who won't put the hours in for piss poor money in their pockets.
     
  22. TMT Tactical

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    When the governments stops feeding those unwilling to do the work, starvation will become a sudden motivator and those same people will suddenly be willing to do the work. If you pay people to stay home and sit on their azz, then they will stay home and sit on their azz. Cut off the social handouts and all of a sudden you will have a work force ready and willing to do what every jobs are available. The immigrant work force will soon adapt to the new countries free lunch programs and those countries will have to continue to keep importing cheap labor until there are no native born workers left.
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    If a single mother applies for a welfare check for her and her child, she should be asked for the name of the baby's father. If she cannot name all the men who could potentially be the child's father, the infant should be taken from her and placed with a responsible family.

    The father having been named and genetically tested to confirm his paternity should be required to take any open jobs. Refusal to do so should result in them being sent to a labor camp where they can learn to do work. If all jobs filled then immigration to the unskilled should be stopped until work is needed. Jobs available = no mendicancy. If a person is crippled or blind and neither family nor charity is available then society must support them.

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    Why should the father be the one to have to take any job offered? Have you not heard of equality!!! Get the mother out in the fields pickin cotton and corn, strap the baby to her if needed but if the kids can do some pickin then a pickin they should be doin under the watchfull eye of a strong man whip in one hand and his gun in the other hand.

    What ya'll gonna do if them there kids ain't right in the head or got a bent body so to speak, ya'll gonna let them live eatin and drinkin depriving the fit folk of fine tasting vittle's ? Bet you got a special plan for the deforms there Old Geezer LOL

    Thats your best post yet mate, I've saved that one :rolleyes:
     
  25. lonewolf

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    nice one Max but we havent got any cotton fields in the UK and the only picking will be fruit and veg and in the old days Eastenders would come fruit picking of their own choosing , those days are now long gone, now its pick your own and a lot of the veg picking is done by machine.
     
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    Those able to work and do work, should not be required to support those that are able to wok but refuse to work. Not a hard concept to understand.
     
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  27. lonewolf

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    depends on the availability of jobs, now during Covid companies are laying off not taking on, at least in the UK.
    many firms closed their doors when covid started and will never reopen again, the unemployed here are more likely to outnumber any possible vacancies.
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    An adult male who refuses to support a child he has fathered is not a man.

    An adult male who is able to work but who refuses to take available jobs is not a man.

    Sexual promiscuity and inability to commit to a mate is evidence that the person may not be fully human.
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  29. Old Geezer

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    This situation speaks directly to the insanity of bringing in immigrants when no jobs exist for them to fill.
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    you dont have to tell me, tell the idiot politicians.
     
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    Is he not a man if there are NO jobs ?

    "Sexual promiscuity and inability to commit to a mate is evidence that the person may not be fully human." I'm not too happy with that statement given your comments on the black community Old Geezer, your heading into thin ice if you develop your theory any further, maybe be best if you keep schtum for a while on this topic.
     
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      Looking at the number of members that agree with Old Geezer and the number of members that agree with you Max, I would say it would be better if YOU SCHTUM for a long while.
       
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  32. Pragmatist

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    Good afternoon Max,

    In the above post and other threads, you're comingling 2 different subjects - they're closely related but cannot be understood until understanding each of these subjects independently.

    The too-few jobs in the US is mostly traced to the huge Social Security welfare program. The program drains away investment capital from businesses seeking to expand and requiring new hires. It's the same for new businesses. It's easier to get a job in the public sector than to even look for investment capital for a new business.

    Trump is trying to get the Social Security system "means tested" - available only for those in need. For the record, Brits don't need to know this but I'll be challenged unless I mention something now. I don't want to write long explainations later. The Social Security program is not only funded by the FICA tax collections. The general fund also pays some of the disbursements.

    It's a racket - and I admit I'm in the program.

    The other subject:

    The national welfare programs are out of control. When a teenager - here in Virginia it's also common enough for a pre-teen - has a baby, the public sector funds everything from the pre-birth classes to the criminal justice system when the child ends up in prison . Must I mention no father ?

    I will not discuss abortion matters - at least not in this thread.

    Trump just opened up the huge Federal civil service to those without a family, without an education and without any social structure less perhaps a gang. He is waiving the tickets: high school diploma, college degrees, etc. As long as the Federal supervisor and department director believe the person can do the job - He/she can. The ones currently on the payroll are really sinecures. Same for the military.

    Reagan tried to reform the welfare programs. Research why the D.C. jury found the shoot innocent of criminal activity.

    FOR THE RECORD: I am not a conservative. I am a Libertarian.

    A TRADITIONAL TYPE OF FOOTNOTE: Up to the end of the Vietnam War / Great Society concurrent years - around 1975, the US produced about 40% of the world's economic activity. China ditched the Marxist economic stuff and used state managed "market economics". Today the US bearly produces 20% of the world's economic activity.
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    "'Sexual promiscuity and inability to commit to a mate is evidence that the person may not be fully human.' I'm not too happy with that statement given your comments on the black community Old Geezer,....."

    I said nothing about black people! One wonders who the truly racist person is!!!!

    I think maybe I've used statistics in my comments. Of course in this day and age, if statistics do not match Secular Humanist dogma, then the numbers are racist.

    Sometimes when a person says, "I ... " They mean God ... which is to say themselves ... Babies think that they are the center of the universe. But hey, babies are cute! What a shame some never grow up. First, their mommies take care of them. Then when they get big, they want to suckle on Big Dog Government.

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  34. TexDanm

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    Old Geezer, I find it telling that you made that comment and it was assumed that you could only be referring to black men. I am a lot like you in this general idea. I was raised with the belief that the biggest difference between a MAN and an animal has to do more with honor than intelligence. There are a lot of human male animals. Some are Black and they get a lot of attention but even more, these days are not black.

    In the past a Black man couldn't have honor. They were not free to do what was right and had to do what they were told to do or ELSE. It will take a long time for the scares of that sort of thing to be erased from a people's psyche. What is most troublesome to me is that what is actually a flaw caused by injury to a people has become something admirable to the children of people with no excuse for that sort of behavior.

    Children need Fathers. A father isn't a sperm donor. It has become all too acceptable for men to spawn children with several women and only be a father in the rawest biological sense. Doing this has voluntarily done to an entire generation of children what centuries of slavery did to the Black people. Raised without fathers these kids learn their ideas about honor from peers and what does any child know about honor?

    A culture is passed from one generation to the next. Daycares have no culture. with no Fathers and Mothers too busy working to have much time for kids is it any wonder that our American world is collapsing as these children that never were a part of it are taking over?
     
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      When I was a kid there weren't many blacks TO hate. The non-white folk in my town were working class. There was a dentist who a lot of folk went to because he was dynamite at NOT hurting you during dental procedures (he was black). I was told to stay out of the eastern part of my town -- they were white, total rednecks, crude, low-breeds, no foreheads, knowwhatImean. My wife and I were the only white couple that sat with the black folk at my 30th high school reunion (didn't go to the 40th). The only reason though was that I was sitting with a high school chum, who'd'a'thunk it, got into big industry also. Wifer & I didn't care. They didn't care. Apparently some other snooty sh##s did. Let's say I wasn't from the rich section of town. Oh, just remembered, they were a mixed-race couple. Our personalities all matched.
       
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  35. Old Geezer

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    I'm not that nice of a person. I can be, I guess, if I had to be.

    My family comes first. I can't worry about half-men, NOR the people they injure.

    My family comes first. Even before it hits the fan, my family comes first.

    After it hits the fan, I most assuredly will not share. If I'm part of a crew, OK, we in the crew will make sure our kids get taken care of. No members of any crew that I would ever be a part of will be bleeding hearts. We'll take care of our own. End of discussion.

    Preppers / survivalists are NOT bleeding hearts. By the very nature of getting past mind-numbing hell on Earth, you cannot share with those who have never lifted a finger to put back for a rainy day.

    "Oh, but what if ... " Shut up! It's too late now! I don't care. My kind doesn't care! My kind cares about their own folk AND THAT IS IT! The time for caring has passed!

    AND I can't care! If I care for the unprepared, I leave my own at want. I'm not letting that happen. I have MY family and what VERY few friends I may have (actually, can't think of any right now) to worry about.

    Here's a little tid-bit, natural selection is bigger than I am. Just the other day, I got it in my head to tip-over the Rock of Gibraltar. I pushed and I pushed. It didn't give a bit. Jesus Christ was unable to make irresponsible people act responsibly. All the wanna-be Jesus Christs of collectivism have not only failed, but they turned into dictators, seems to be a habit or some eternal essential flaw of the human species! The people of Nicaragua are today trying to get rid of Danny I-am-Jesus Ortega. I'm rather certain that they'll find another Big Brother / mass-rapist.

    "Take care of me" = "Have your way with me". Sheeple are masochists.

    This and ALL other prepper sites are how-to-save-your-family sites. Survivalists, none of them, are about saving the world. It is puerile to think otherwise.
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  36. lonewolf

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    if non prepper types dont want to prepare, for whatever reason, that is their decision, I have heard too many discussions along the lines of "it'll never happen!" until it does of course, no one thought coronavirus was coming but it did.
    we have all seen the panic buying idiots, usually buying the wrong sort of stuff and we know most of that will be thrown out when it gets past its "best before" date.
    in a SHTF situation, a long term event, these people arent going to survive for long so why should I worry about them? they dont care about me!
     
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    Knocking Trump again? dosent it get boring.
     
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    Good morning Max,

    I read part of what you call "sombre reading". Had to stop when I saw the block titled "Racial Injustice".

    Pew is not a neutral organization. It has biases against Trump.

    America's key allies - not what the article calls the key allies - have political establishments that DO support the Trump administration. Have you followed the British military rehab ? Have you followed the new treaties in the Middle East ? Have you followed the sotto voce trade agreements re soybeans and corn between China and US ? It might or might not be sombre reading.

    Would you expect the German public - at least those interviewed by Pew - to be neutral in their statements when Trump just delayed Norstream 2 pipeline ?

    The bar graph is just ****** up. WHO is a UN agency with it's own agenda. Have you and Pew missed the Taiwan scandal ?

    Not sombre but just humor: Belgium doesn't think Trump is versed in world affairs ? Ask the Belgiums about their EuroCorps. Belgium is close to collapse along with most of the latter-day Confederation of the Rhine.

    To me the Pew article was less sombre and just routine Pew distortions.

    Meanwhile, so far no big wars going on and the US had successfully tested deployment of 2 hospital ships and Federal augmentation of state public health organizations.
     
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    Hell on earth....U.S. going to Hell

    Here is a sneak preview of what is going on in the UK....the pattern...

    I bring this up in this manner because it is coming here if the left and the phony right, Globalists, Internationalists, Deep Staters have their way.

    Be Warned....

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/actor-laurence-fox-launches-party-to-wage-war-on-woke/


    Racism....Wow....

    Let me demonstrate something about Racism here for people who can and will think for themselves....and have no desire to follow the crowds...but go their own way..

    Here....about people who only have race and racism on their plates....professional racists..

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/bu-professor-suggests-amy-coney-barrett-is-a-white-colonizer/


    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...is-a-straight-out-of-the-19th-century-racist/


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/21/trump-racist-cory-booker-1424129


    These are people who mostly have race and racism on their plate daily. I could add Leonard Pitts to this mix.

    They must needs view everything through their prisms of race and racism and hold everyone hostage and in bondage to their racist views...even if it means going so far as to stick everyone and everything back into their time warp politics...sticking everyone and everything back into time to make their points.... show that it is still happening.....with Jerry Springer type theatrics..

    Thinking people do not define everything through race and racism...and have no desire to so do....

    But there are clearly people and institutions out here who have made a career of doing just that and a willing and compliant public education system and media have worked to reinforce this upon the public to the point where we have the chaos going on we see today with ANTIFA And BLM....professional racist groups and more...

    Racist groups to the point where they are becoming clearly fascist in their techniques and also turning off a great portion of the American Public by their methods..bullying...


    I perceive that this pattern is well along in the UK and some are also getting very tired and disgusted with it. About time too.

    As I have stated many times....people begin to sense that if it continues that they will be taking second, third, and fourth place in their own country while paying for first place for others to get it for free....

    This is one definition of Hell on Earth...this very kind of insanity run amok..

    And make no mistake ...someone is planning and posturing for it to come to the United States...to take over our daily lives...


    And I believe this is the very struggle we see going on between the Trump Administration and the Globalists...the Internationalist...the Deep State..

    Notice this one ..


    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...nd-the-world-that-we-live-in-threats-we-face/

    This woman is clearly an Internationalist....worried about the world.....Fitting America into the World pattern.

    I don't believe Trump and Company are worried about the world....but about America....

    And that is what I believe is the struggle we see going on ....and why this election and the chaos around it...along with this Supreme Court Nominee..are going to be surrounded by massive chaos ...coming soon. More and more of the blame game..

    Chaos is the very best these Globalist Ishmaelites have to get their way...they cannot change their spots.


    Be Warned of Ishmaelites run wild.....


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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    A bit lonewolf...but what it gets ..after awhile..is predictable....even wolfie......you can see them coming....with predictability..

    Ishmaelites run wild....

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    Knocking idiocy can never become boring dear boy.
     
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      Based on that concept, you are going to provides us with the means to avoid being bored.
       
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    with the piece of the "debate" they showed on breakfast tv it looked more like a slanging match.
     
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    It was an absolute shambles, the 'moderator' was a joke too. Trump will get back in.
     
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    of course he will, "dementia Joe" is a joke.
     
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    They are both a joke LW, but Trump is a dangerous joke.
     
  47. Old Geezer

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    I couldn't watch it.

    Biden's speech was slow & slurred; this brought back many unhappy memories. While at university, I worked with stroke patients concerning their speech and language disorders. Biden has CNS issues and that's just hard to watch. It is deeply sick of Biden's handlers to let this charade go on.

    Trump continuing to beat-down brain-damaged Biden was not one of Trump's best moments. The unforgivable lies the Democratic Socialists put in Biden's mouth (I guess I should say ear canals) were not Biden's fault. Trump should have said, "There is something wrong with my opponent's health, please have someone see to him right about now."

    Biden's financial felonies over the decades do not mean that he should be tortured in his dotage. I think that comes under "cruel and unusual punishment".

    Trump should have debated Kamala Harris, the actual Democratic Socialist candidate.

    My central question for Trump would be, "Sir, we know that the socialists will continue to print mountains of money, however are you not sir ALSO printing money that is NOT backed and the debts attending to which can never be paid-down? Is not the choice of the people at the November polls one of selecting the speed at which the our nation's currency collapses?!"

    I would have eventually asked Trump, "Mr. President, why are you not shutting down the pandemonium and arson occurring in our cities? We know that the Left supports this violence and thievery, but by your withholding of federal law enforcement troops, are you not yourself allowing the destruction of government buildings and commercial businesses to continue?"

    Let's face it, there are people living in cities who vote Left-wing and thus deserve to be attacked by their own fellow-travelers who march, scream, and burn at 2:00 AM. However there are also good people, civilized human beings, who need to be protected from the uncivilized masses. Such decent folk would move, but love where they live -- such cities were once civilized, we mustn't forget. Also. these people simply haven't the funds nor have the means to bug-out. When citizens are attacked and their socialist state and city governments refuse to protect them, is there not a place for the executive branch of the federal government to send aid to them in the form of uniformed federal police agencies? I think so. It is much like an American embassy in some other country being surrounded by armed savages. One must act. If the citizens in socialist states defend themselves against the arsonists, thugs, and looters, they will be arrested and charged by their socialist overlords. The Fed has to step in if you ask me.

    Or, we can just get on with the shooting civil war. There are hundreds of thousands of volunteers who would love to march into the areas of anarchy and bring about peace by any means necessary. When the economy tanks, people are going to be taking care of business themselves anyway. Even Big Brother will be without any money whatsoever to pay people in uniform to do anything.

    Me, I see Trump as being oftentimes rather soft on illegal immigration and riot control. Too, he allows this economically fatal money-printing to continue. Harry Truman or Dwight Eisenhower would have crushed such goings-on.
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      Dwight and Truman did not have half a nation of sheeple. I do think President Trump is playing it smart. Get re-elected then crush these rioters and make the Democrats look even worse, for not having fixed the problem earlier. I think he is also looking forward to 2024, that is going to be the real deciding election for out future.
       
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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    I'd say "criminal nihilists" are terrorists.
     
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      "I'd say "criminal nihilists" are terrorists."
      All around the planet and in centuries/millennia past, they have always been considered as such. Watching these cities burn without troops being brought in has been a unique experience for me. JFK would have crushed these riots on day two (24 hr = lag time for the troops to arrive). We know what LBJ did in 1968. Jefferson signed the Insurrection Act in 1807.
       
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