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  1. watcherchris

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    I am also very very worried about what I think is the planned coming internal chaos in this country between now and the coming November election.....to keep Trump out of the running....they are getting desperate....and I beieve will resort to mass chaos.


    I believe that , in like manner to the Ukraine, chaos is the very very very best our current entitled Leadership and their Masters can do.....again just like the Ukraine...

    Even if Trump wins and survives.....it will be chaos.....possibly coast to coast....because of the Entitlement religion of these groups in the Deep State and their hold on our leadership/country.

    Thus I have very little interest in the Ukraine.....

    I think we need to get out of it and let Europe sort it out.


    We have carried Europe and even the Orient on our Breast for entirely too long....and with our finest blood..

    I think the same about carrying Israel to too long as well.


    I think we need to start carrying America First.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    Well said...lonewolf.....well said!!!!!!!!

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  3. Old Geezer

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    Hitler was an idiot. The German Wehrmacht, had Hitler not attempted to micromanage the war, would have rolled over Europe and taken England in less than a year. America at the time wasn't ready for a war and couldn't have prevented the German aggression. It was Hitler's idiocy that allowed Great Britain to evacuate Dunkirk. Rommel would have captured or killed-off the 300,000 British troops trapped there. Hitler delayed the attack and put one of his own men in charge = the British successfully evacuated.

    Putin is a chess player you don't want to mess with. Would he allow the Russian troop to take horrific losses to draw-in the enemy? He sure would ... has. Putin is an accomplished killer. Would Putin use theater nukes without remorse? Rest assured that he would. If the West were to successfully prop-up Ukraine, Putin would undo it all with theater nukes. Currently, this protracted war is drawing-down Western forces such that they will have no bargaining chips post Ukraine. This is brilliance on the part of Vladimir Putin.

    Due to Putin's war plans, he in future will be sucking money out of Western Europe in the form of oil exports to those nations. Russia will also become the grain exporter. Putin seeks wealth for Russia, his cadre, and himself. Why conquer the West when you can drain them while they live ... militarily-drained by supporting Ukraine. Russia is currently giving aid to any white South African farmers who will move to Russia. These S.African farmers know how to use technology and are extraordinarily efficient. Move to Russia = not getting raped and murdered by the Africans + receiving the aid you require to get started in a new country. Brilliant.
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  4. watcherchris

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    The West and particularly America made a huge mistake in following and sucking up to the Deep State players...in and around the issue of the Ukraine. We have almost no bargaining position...very very stupid of us.

    Also the West.....is coming to the conclusion.....and finally.... that we need to get out of the Ukraine and let them manage on their own..

    This is being quietly done but if you watch and listen closely to the changing silence....you can tell....a bottomless pit for us.............................again!!!

    And It is about time too....

    America needs to look out for America first...for no one else will.


    And be warned of our phony Ishmaelite leadership who would put Americans in last place...and for the Deep State......Ishmaelites............. while we are working and risking for first place and it is being given to someone else....anyone but Americans.

    This.......is how you know that you have a non representative government....representing someone or something ...but not America and Americans.


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites,
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  5. Old Geezer

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    The Ukraine power structure thought that they had biden and his boy in their pocket.

    They were right.
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  6. Old Geezer

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    "France Is Reeling From The Powerful Blow That Russia Just Dealt To Its Prestige In Ukraine"

    https://korybko.substack.com/p/france-is-reeling-from-the-powerful

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    Turning a blind eye to its citizens’ mercenary activity in Ukraine backfired by leading to a major loss of prestige instead of the expected gains.

    Russia carried out a successful strike against dozens of mercenaries in Kharkov last week that ended up killing at least five dozen of them, the majority of whom were reported to be French. Moscow blamed Paris for their deaths by turning a blind eye to them traveling to Ukraine, which Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu claimed that his country is powerless to prevent because “we are still a democracy”. That sheepish response lent credence to the Kremlin’s claims and left the Elysse with egg on its face.

    Paris thought that the dispatch of its citizens to that country would imbue their own with “glory” after they came back from their “safari” with a bunch of stories to tell about how many Russians they killed. Fighting against Russia isn’t the same as fighting against non-state actors in Africa, however, since the first has the technological prowess to kill these mercenaries before they even know what happened. That’s exactly what occurred after they took Russia’s media-reported “weakness” for granted.

    The Mainstream Media spent the first 18 months of the special operation from February 2022 till the undeniable failure of Kiev’s counteroffensive in August 2023 peddling fantasies about how quickly the West was about to crush Russia via their Ukrainian proxies. The idea that Russia would repel that unprecedented assault and then put Ukraine back on the defensive was deemed impossible, which is why many traveled there to participate in this supposedly historic operation to get some of the “glory”.

    Even though Mainstream Media radically recalibrated their official narrative about this conflict from fall onward, many mercenaries still didn’t believe that Ukraine had already lost and that all the fighting since then is basically aimed at perpetuating the conflict for the military-industrial complex’s sake. They remained naively delusional about its dynamics and couldn’t imagine that Russia is anywhere near as formidable as it actually is, which explains why they still continued traveling to Ukraine to fight it.

    It's therefore not just the French government that’s to blame for the deaths of its mercenaries like the Kremlin claimed, but also the Mainstream Media for imbuing them with completely false perceptions about this conflict that led to them wanting to travel there for “glory” in the first place. Instead of receiving what they came for, they’ll now be sent back in body bags (if any identifiable pieces of them remain that is), with all the ignominy that they and their country just brought upon themselves.


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  7. watcherchris

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    War....glorious;....Wow!! Someone is watching way too many movies....and or La Grande Armee!!!! That sort of PR nonsense!!


    Seems to me....in the accounts leading up to the first Bull Run....in Manassas......many of them on the Union side thought the war was going to be over in a few weeks....back in 1861.

    Something about the plans of mice and men.........I think ...that is the way it goes!!!???


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites....they were around even back in 1861.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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  8. lonewolf

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  9. watcherchris

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    43 Billion.......lol lol lol....43 billion.....Wow!!!


    You do know that Russia is backing the Ruble with Gold......and China the same with the Wan....yes????


    The USA is backing the dollar with nothing...yes????


    Catching on yet??????



    I keep saying that someone out here for reasons of control and or herding is gaslighting us big time on the topic of the Ukraine. The Ukraine is their private fiefdom....and along with their private fiefdom....is Zelensky....bought and paid... Just like most of the news media out here...bought and paid...

    I also think that NATO is their private fiefdom.....and this is why Trump was telling NATO nations to pay up....the free ride was over....until Biden and groups came to power and reversed everything and put NATO back on the USA Public breast..

    The Ukraine and it's war is coming to an end without massive manipulation.....in the news...

    It is starting and accelerating in it's losing favor here in the USA and about time too...long overdue...


    Don't worry ...the Deep State Pimps will get us involved in another soon enough...with predictability.....

    Watcherchris
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  10. lonewolf

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    war is big business, lots of money to be made, forget about the people being killed its all about profit.
     
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  11. watcherchris

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    Yes...agree...big business...


    There are stories told.....about just before WW2 and Pearl Harbor for us Yanks.....about the Secretary of Treasury under then President Franklin Roosevelt....making an entry in his personal diary.....about a meeting.....of high officials.

    "We met today for the purpose of discussing how to get Japan to attack Pearl Harbor."


    Yup ...big business...indeed...


    As I have also posted on this forum....that the Russian Revolutionary Army was trained here in the USA and then sent by ship over to Russia to carry out the famous October Revolution of 1917.

    But not what you will ever get in most history books.....you have to read very much off the beaten path to find this history.


    This world is not what is seems on the surface....indeed....


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  12. Old Geezer

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    I wish that there were maps available that had no country names on them.

    I's like to take such a nameless map or world globe to a mall and ask people to point to the different country outlines and name them. I would put good money on two-thirds of the people or less not being able to locate the country of Ukraine. Actually, I'd be shocked if more than 15% could.

    Oh! I just looked and found a stack of nameless maps! Hurrah! Print and take one of these to a party or to work and see who knows their geography.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?...terui:imagesize-wallpaper&form=IRFLTR&first=1

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    I was tempted to put the following information on the " World War Three " thread as this is basically what it amounts to . However to appease those that cling to it ain't going to happen , decided to put it on the Ukraine thread . --- France has now sent in it's first batch of troops into Ukraine . This troop deployment to test the waters is only 100 . Of course N.A.T.O. from various countries have had troops in Ukraine for a long tome " sheep dips " . But now there is out right in your face N.A.T.O. troops being sent .
     
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  14. lonewolf

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    there is a lot of talk in UK political circles about increasing defence spending, but its far too late for that.
    at the moment its 2.3% of GDP.
     
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    Over the last few weeks it seems to me like being at a funeral wake , while we conduct small talk and await for the big event . All has been quiet on the Ukraine / Russian war as compared to some of the other things we have seen transpire . In case someone doesn't know , the F16 aircraft are scheduled to be in Ukrainian hands this week , probably already are . I don't know of which country of origin the piolets are affiliated with and it probably doesn't matter as the missiles and bombs just don't care who flicks the activation switch . There is little doubt they will use the newly acquired fighter aircraft to do some big time damage to Russia . -- Strange to see so many people that can not comprehend that the various wars have a high chance to come to their country of residence and continue to either not prepare at all , or vastly underprepare .
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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    If the F-16s enter Russian air-space, then Russia will go Old Testament on these aircraft then take-out all of Ukraine's airfields.

    Were I the decision-maker in the Kremlin, I would already have destroyed Ukraine's air fields.
     
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  17. poltiregist

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    Russia has " now " loaded tactical Nukes onto bombers . This has been done in Belarus , next to the Ukraine / Belarus border . Russian officials claim this is only practice .
     
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  18. lonewolf

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    so they say, I believe nothing said by the Russian govt or media, its all BS and propaganda.
     
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  19. watcherchris

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    You people do know what happens at an alert pad...on an air base right???? Our air bases..right??
    Particularly our alert pads wherein we have strategic bombers...yes???? B1s, B2s, B52s.

    Are we not moving them quietly around the globe now..right now and for practice??



    How about at a submarine pen....like Bangor, Washington or Kings Bay ,Georgia????
    These submarines are often called Boomers...for a reason.
    How many of them are out at sea right now...on patrol...???

    The Russians are not the only ones who can do this...and they know it. So do the Chinese....and Iranians too know this about us.


    The big....big...big question for me and right here ..is not our military per se.....but the quality/character of our leaders...??? Are our leaders from Manchuria.????


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites...not the product advertised...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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  20. lonewolf

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    unless one has been in the military how on earth would we know what an alert pad is?
    I'm a prepper not a squaddie.
     
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  21. watcherchris

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    Good Question.....lonewolf...and thanks for reminding me..



    Many many many years ago....I was assigned to a base in the UK called RAF Mildenhall...and it was right next to RAF Lakenheath.

    There were alert pads on both bases wherein aircraft on specific alert status were armed...and made ready to take off on a moments notice according to their design functions....fighters..bombers....reconnaissance/information gathering..photo or electronic...etc. etc. et al.

    Alert status means ready to go ASAP. In Keflavik, Iceland this meant air interceptors...armed...hot loads.....and ready to go...to intercept Russian Long range aircraft on the way from Murmansk...non stop to Cuba.

    You see.

    The Air Base right next to me has an alert barn....part of it's alert pad.....wherein pilots sleep and eat for their duty period..armed aircraft.ready to go at a moments notice.....24/7....to perform active air intercepts....armed with real ones...hot loads... not practice dummies.

    This has been going on for years and years after years and years.....since shortly after WW2...and the dominant rise of air power.

    The difference is that Submarines are on patrol...who knows where at any given time.....thus one seldom knows from whence they will and can strike...not a fixed land base. And they are listening .....24/7.

    And today's submarines are way way way more flexible in their mission capabilities than in the Olde Days.


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  22. poltiregist

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    --- It has become obvious some people aren't mentally strong enough to face serious adversity . For those that just like to talk about laid back everyday happening , this video is not suitable as it is a video of " extreme horrific information . " I write this to address the silent lurkers that may be monitoring this site . That however is not the case for our regular posters on this forum and they are my target to inform . -- Note as to my best information " 45 " F16 aircraft are being flown into Ukraine . Note the " One World Globalist " are failing to stop Donald Trump from stepping into the White House on January First . The Coronal Mass Ejection didn't cause the mess that they hoped for , The earth Quake swarm so for has not created the mess they hoped for , The court persecutions of Trump has not went as they hoped for . They need an horrific war to stop Trump from gaining the White House and destroying their agenda . The communist only have about 6 months left to find a way to stop Trump . -- For those that may chose to watch the link , it addresses the Nuclear Winter a little over half way through the video . This link I could have placed on the World War Three Thread but for now perhaps the Ukraine thread is more appropriate .
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    By tying him up in court proceedings, the global socialists have succeeded in keeping Trump from campaigning.

    The Kremlin will not allow their air force to go up against American F16 fighters nor any other weaponry that threatens Russia itself. If the Kremlin generals feel that nuking assets -- such as airfields and SAM sites -- is necessary, then Putin will sign-off on the use of theater nukes. Ukraine will get its @$$ handed to them. Neither NATO nor any other Western power have the number-count of theater-grade nukes to even begin to challenge the Kremlin. Too, were Europe to threaten the existence of Russia, then Russia would use its strategic nukes. They will. Make no mistake. They will. The UK and Western Nations know this. The inferior crew running the White House are anything but rational, plus they are evil and very mean-spirited. Them running the Wh.House is like giving teenagers explosives with which to play.

    As far as the presidential + national congressional election is concerned, the Democrats have already gone into panic mode. One of their assaults on America is their opening of our borders. This allows-in illegal voters and terrorist groups ... not to mention Chinese sapper soldiers to terrorize the populace and to destroy national infrastructure assets.

    The Chinese PLA could get involved prior to the Nov. election in an attempt to keep their pay-for "biden" administration, and/or they could go active should Trump win the election. Were Trump to win, puppet biden would remain the current non-Commander in Chief. China is delighted with America currently not having any true leadership.

    The globalists and their Washington D.C. deep state lackies are MORE than willing to do anything necessary to hold onto power of their evolving USSA and to subjugate Americans who wish to return D.C. to Constitutional rule.

    This summer could be a very HOT one, indeed.
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  24. Old Geezer

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    "Blinken hopes you won’t find out that Ukrainian officials got rich using our tax dollars to invest in fake companies…."

    https://revolver.news/2024/05/antony-blinken-kharkiv-defenses-millions-stolen/

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    Another day, another foreign policy disaster from the failed Biden regime. This time around, inept Secretary of State Antony Blinken is praying to whatever “god” will listen to him at this point, hoping the American people don’t discover that Ukrainian officials in Kharkiv have been using US tax dollars to get rich quick by investing in fake companies.

    Now, if the name of that town rings a bell, it’s likely due to recent reports of Russians entering the city and taking it over with barely a struggle. Why, you ask? It’s because officials pocketed the money meant for “defense” and used it to line their own pockets.

    This is what happens when you climb into bed with a corrupt country like Ukraine. A commander of the Ukrainian army is now convinced his forces are doomed.

    Here’s an article from the Ukraine that’s been translated.

    Pravda:

    Hundreds of millions of hryvnias could probably be stolen during the construction of fortifications in the Kharkiv region, where the RSNA is now actively advancing. Multi-million dollar contracts for the construction of fortifications, for which a total of 7 billion hryvnias were spent there, were transferred by Kharkiv OVA to front companies of avatars.

    In particular, the department Housing and communal services (ZhKG) and the fuel and energy complex of the Kharkiv OVA concluded direct contracts for the supply of wood for fortifications with companies with signs of fictitiousness.

    For 270 million for wood, information about which is classified, contracts were concluded with FOP Chaus I.O., LLC “Hertz Industry”, LLC “Satisbud”, LLC “ATT BUILD” and LLC “DEREVOOBROBNE PIDPRIEMSTVO VOSHOD”.


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  25. lonewolf

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    "Putin's missile stocks blown up in Warehouse attack ".
    this was missiles destined for use by fighter jets, a fuel dump was also set alight.
     
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  26. lonewolf

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    More than 700( 710 actually) Russian Soldiers killed or injured in just 5 days in the Kharkiv region during fierce fighting.
    total Russian losses since the start of the war 481, 030 killed or injured.
    not all going Putin's way, is it?
    it is being said that Putin could use the shooting of the Slovakian Prime Minister to start WW3 (similar to that shooting that started WW1) but does he have enough troops left? and even the stocks of weapons must be getting low after 3 years of continual war, even with replacements from China and Iran. there was only ONE tank at the Red Square victory parade marking the end of WW2.
     
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  27. poltiregist

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    There is so much propaganda and out right lies being shoved out from both Russia and Ukraine , it is hard to distinguish where the truth is . That is why I stopped posting the daily claims from either side . The one constant though in this conflict as either side gets more desperate it enhances the possibility of the whole thing going Nuclear . Trying to convince oneself or group that it will not spread into A Nuclear and Global conflict is desperate hope wanting someone else to verify it ain't gona happen . No one knows with any certainty if this thing will become a global Nuclear conflict . However as preppers we should be preparing for this possibility .
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    The odds of the Ukraine conflict ending up in a global nuclear exchange is less than 10%.

    Western Europe is chicken-sh## and Putin wants Western Europe as oil and natural gas customers. Putin wants to bleed the West dry while simultaneously forcing the West to use their up-and-coming BRICs currency. Russia is going to defeat Ukraine. Western nations sending-in military aid is what Putin wants. This stupidity is draining the West of their own military needs = happy Putin.

    If you want a nuclear war and want to watch where it begins, look to China / Taiwan. If there is even a small little theater nuke that goes off, that event could spiral into strategic nukes being used against the mainlands of the US and China. On this planet right now, this is THE hot-spot.

    The odds of the Middle East setting-off a global war is higher than the Ukraine conflict, but lower that the China/Taiwan conflict. Putin is getting some use out of Iran and thus doesn't want Iran destroyed. The U.S. doesn't want Israel destroyed.

    The major prep for nuclear war is to live FAR FAR AWAY from military bases and not be downrange of the fallout appertaining. If you live near or downrange, fall-out wise, of our nuke silos, our B52 bomber air bases, our B2 bomber air base, our Naval ports, our nuke storage sites, then hang it up, you are going to die. The more preparations you make will mean that you will just die more slowly than others. Deep concrete bunkers might just help, but when are you going to come out?! How will you be able to travel over massively contaminated areas to get to where crops can be grown?!

    Here are the military targets and fallout-nasty places in the USA:

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    IF our cities get hit (and that is a BIG if) -- these people are gonna die, nuke or no nuke (why waste a nuke!) -- these will be the cities that will get toasted. Cities will get hit with air bursts and thus there will not be great amounts of fallout appertaining -- plus, the fallout won't be traveling far. A nuclear ground-strike (for military targets, et. al.) digs up tens of thousands of tons of earth, irradiates it, and then sends this hundreds of miles down range -- this is the apocalyptic aspect of nuclear war. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit with air bursts, thus less fallout, thus Japan recovered.

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  29. watcherchris

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    Hmmmmmmm....wondering to myself ....how many fast attack boats we have in that straight between mainland China and Taiwan?????

    So they are going to send in an invasion fleet...yes????" To invade Taiwan???

    Just putting this foreward.....for thought....



    You members do know that one of the deadliest threats to any surface ship or vessel ..is in fact a submarine ...right????

    And one of the Deadliest threats to a submarine is another submarine...right????

    You reckon the Chinese know this????? How about the Russians????


    Food for thought......


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  30. watcherchris

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    I have a big big problem with this constant propaganda of good cop/bad cop going on over the Ukraine conflict....


    To my limited knowledge...Russia wants to sell oil and natural gas to the western nations...

    It is we in the west...our weak governments who want to stop Russia from selling to the West...hence that pipeline what was broken up...in the north sea some time back...

    That comes across to me as an act of war....and interrupts commerce between free nations....in favor of political expediency....deep state...

    I do not believe that Russia wants to go nuke on the west and lose their good customers.......


    I think this is being hidden behind a constant barrage of propaganda here in the west......among the Deep Staters who do not want to lose control of Nations.....and their investments....and it appears that the Ukraine is one of their investments.....international investments.


    I am hearing stores that one of the reasons that Julian Assange is not liked by western deep state run governments is that he was exposing this rigged deep state pattern of operation and or wars for profit...putting Light on these operations...global operations ..through phony puppet non representative governments.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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  31. Old Geezer

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    What can I say?

    The current world sitrep is sick -- there's a word. This is all spiritually sick sh## to the max.

    Centralized governments are bloated, vile, hideous beyond all description.

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  32. Old Geezer

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    In its attack on Taiwan, China will first send out massive numbers of rockets to pulverize Taiwan's military. If US naval assets begin taking-out Chinese rocket fire, then China will likely target those ships, even US ground based SAM sites. Too, China has had torpedoes that use sodium as the explosive for 20 years. These could be used instead of nuclear warheads.

    Currently, the US has no Commander in Chief, so if China wants Taiwan, now is the time to strike.

    Targeting submarines is a pain, one has to mine the ocean floor, plus have massive arrays of undersea detectors. China has nuclear weaponry to take-out not just aircraft carriers and their strike-groups but also submarines. This is why I think that the place most likely to be the beginning point of a nuclear war is in the China Taiwan Strait. China does NOT recognize this strait as being within international waters. They consider this their national territory.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-6_torpedo

    "Yu-9 (鱼-9) torpedo was developed as the electrically powered counterpart of the Otto-fuel-II-powered Yu-6, with which it shares many components and technologies, with the exception of the propulsion system.

    "Domestic Chinese sources have said that the torpedo had become the test vehicle and subsequently armed with a new warhead developed by the Chinese naval research institute. The new warhead utilizes sodium hydride compounds / chemical reaction; on detonation a large amount of sodium powder is released, which reacts with seawater to produce large amounts of very-high-temperature hydrogen within a very short period of time, so that the temperature instantly increases to over 2,000 °C within a radius of a few dozen metres as the hydrogen reacts with oxygen, destroying the target even if not hit. Development of the warhead was completed by 2006, and Yu-9 finally became fully operational in 2012."
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    1200 Russian troops killed in the battle for Kharkiv.
     
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    "Ukraine in ‘Serious Risk’ of Losing War to Russia This Year, Says Former UK Commander"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...to-russia-this-year-says-former-uk-commander/

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    Ukraine is facing a potential outright defeat by the Russians this year, the former commander of the UK’s Joint Forces Command has warned.

    With the Russian invasion of Ukraine continuing into its third year, the badly outnumbered and outgunned Ukraine is facing a “serious risk” of having to admit defeat to Russia, General Sir Richard Barrons told the BBC. there is “a serious risk” of Ukraine losing the war this year.

    The former head of the Joint Forces Command, now known as Strategic Command (StratCom), warned that pessimism may set in among the people of Ukraine and that the public may come to feel that the country “can’t win”.

    “And when it gets to that point, why will people want to fight and die any longer, just to defend the indefensible?” Gen Barrons questioned.


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    Stupidity has run rampant in Western nations. Western leadership should stop and think long and hard about continuing to prop-up the corrupt leadership of Ukraine. Do they want a war with Russia?! Russia is going to win in Ukraine. Russia will win a tactical nuclear conflict with Western Europe. Tactical could lead to strategic, let us not forget. This is playing with nuclear fire. Biden and his boy got their payoffs, that's a matter of record. Add that this isn't our war, isn't even our side of the planet. Their cultures, their politics are theirs. Were Ukraine an ally during times of peace, we couldn't trust the crews (plural) running the place -- it's just another oligarchy.

    Continuing this war is insane and downright sick.


    "Russia Launches Tactical Nuclear Drills Near Ukraine In Response To 'Western Threats' "


    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...-drills-near-ukraine-response-western-threats

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    Russia on Tuesday confirmed that its forces have kicked off tactical nuclear weapons drills in its southern military district, which is near the Ukrainian border, in what the Kremlin has described as a response to "threats" by the West.

    The defense ministry (MoD) announced that the exercises aim to test the "readiness" of its "non-strategic nuclear weapons … to ensure the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Russian state."

    First unveiled in early May, the date and location of the exercises at that early preview phase were unknown. The Foreign Ministry had warned at the time that NATO's own "Steadfast Defender" drills are possible preparations for war with Russia.

    Another among the 'threats' emanating from the West is the possibility of deploying NATO troops in Ukraine. The idea has gained steam ever since Frances Emmanuel Macron first proposed it months ago a security conference in Paris. Lithuania is the latest to recently back the idea.

    According to more details of Tuesday's non-strategic nuclear forces drills via state media:

    "As part of this stage, the personnel of the missile formations of the Southern Military District are completing combat training tasks for obtaining special ammunition for the Iskander operational and tactical missile system, equipping them with launch vehicles and covertly advancing to the designated positional area to prepare for missile launches," the ministry explained, adding that the Russian aviation is training with the equipment of special combat units of aircraft destruction, including Kinzhal hypersonic missiles.

    Russia's military has issued several videos and images of the drills in progress, which will also be monitored closely from Western capitals and the Pentagon. The situation is ominous to say the least...


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    "Zelenskyy has consolidated Ukraine's TV outlets and dissolved rival political parties"

    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110...-tv-outlets-and-dissolved-rival-political-par

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    "Ukraine under closer western scrutiny"

    https://www.ft.com/content/08179b6b-bcb2-442d-9137-38072be0faa3

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    Preppers need to be aware as to what is happening and the possible end conclusion to this war . We can't stop the idiocy but we sure can prepare to face , confront and hopefully be amongst the few survivors of the aftermath .
     
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    I can vote against this biden regime come November and hope my vote doesn't get tossed or counteracted by fraudulent votes. Maybe if enough vote, then the illegal voting can be overcome.

    Getting in some person who is a tad more sane will put off, the inevitable. I'd like to move back to my home state as preparation. Can't do that with the government in its current chaos.

    The dollar is finished and the sh##'s gonna hit the fan, but I would that I were back home when it happens. The people there are FAR more survival prone, far more self-sufficient. AND I am one of them.
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    I am beginning to think that the PTB do not want the Ukraine war to end. The Ukraine has become a unique weapons testing ground. Just think about all the new weapons being developed and used in the Ukraine. The Powers to Be will not allow the Ukraine military to use these high tech weapons against Russian soldiers on Russian soil. Thus ensuring at least a stalemate and at worse that Ukraine losses. A war of attrition does not favor the Ukraine.
     
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    Trouble is Putin is already rewriting the borders of Russia to include Nato countries, so he obviously wants to push this further than just Ukraine.
    whether Ukraine wins or loses this wont be the end of Russian made wars.
     
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    The Kremlin is now gutting Ukraine's infrastructure. Kiev is now drafting kids since so many young men have bugged out to Western Europe. Russia is using its large field missiles and has very many in reserve. W. European nations have handed Ukraine their weapons and ammunition. The ammunition is being used up, so when Russia walks in, these weapons will be taken by Russia ... at least those in eastern Ukraine. Russia is not going to take the whole of Ukraine. Why not? Russia doesn't want to rebuild it.

    Russia has no reason to attack Western Europe, that would be both stupid and non-sustainable. The euro is doomed, so why attack when Europe is being invaded by North Africa and Middle Easterners.

    Ukraine is finished. And now that the Middle East is an iffy source of oil, Putin has Western Europe over a barrel ... as in oil. Putin is going soak Europe dry of funding so that the BRICs currency can replace the dollar.

    Supreme chess playing on the part of the Kremlin.
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    Ukraine is not finished, not yet anyway, Putin was told they could take Ukraine in 3 days and here we are year 3.
    its not all going Russia's way, they have lost many troops and many tanks, thats why they offered convicts their freedom if they will serve on the front line for 6 months many did not, the ones that did are now committing crime back in Russia. the conscription age was raised to 70 year olds, 70!! does that sound like Russia is winning the war?
    opposition to the war is now rising in Russia, there is some civil unrest although they dont show it on news channels, mothers dont like losing sons in Putin's war.
    more males have left Russia than have left Ukraine because they dont want to be conscripted into Putin's illegal war.
     
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    Agree....and most of the idiocy about this Ukraine business is here in the west...and amongst our ersatz leadership.....pimping our nation and people....tax base out to the highest bidder ...again......for political favor.


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites who would put us and our whole country back into another war of Ishmaelite bondage....someon else's war....

    And again for a Democracy which does not exist.....


    We are being scammed again.....


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites...

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    By lonewolf.......



    There is a very interesting thing about history and I do not believe for one minute that Putin is ignorant of history.......most all history.

    In his interview with Tucker Carlson....I was quite surprised to learn that Putin Knew so much Russian History.....
    I also believe he is versed well in certain aspects of western history.
    Would that our leadership here know as much history as does Putin.

    For example....in America much of our leadership here was so dumb that they believed our American Civil war would last some 2 to 3 weeks...and be over...
    Stupid...stupid people. Incredibly stupid.......and still going on today........


    The British were just as ignorant in early WW1 as they maneuvered to send their horse across the line.....because the thinking was that it takes some 8 rounds to bring down a horse.
    Their infantry maneuvered to get to a position wherein the British could send across their horse calvary.......time and time again...under General Haig...

    But.........someone had perfected the Maxim Machine gun and also massive artillery bombardment.

    The thinking is all too often fighting using the last war's thinking and methods.

    In the end the only way to survive was to go underground....trenches.

    The saying in the British Army was that there would never be another Haig. The British lost so many men going over the top....again and again and again...

    Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig: World War I's Worst General (historynet.com)




    And when that was not enough the French were made to go over the top.....with the result after years and years of this stupidity ...that the French Army went on strike and would not go over the top....unless all agreed to it.


    And remember.....when both the British and French could not handle the Germans....America was maneuvered into entering the war at the last year......even after our President Wilson ran for re election on a campaign of ....."He kept us out of war."

    Sound familiar....catching on yet????? Are we even and ever....supposed to know this much history??? How dare we!!!!!!!

    Stupidity run Amok.

    I do not believe that Putin is as ignorant of this history as many in the west would like to paint him.



    I believe that we here in the west are needed to be as stupid/ignorant as we can be made, manufactured, manipulated...for political/profitable purposes...purposes of more power and control.

    I also believe that this necessity/expediency ...is come so far here in the west...by entitlement ....that our leadership is on the verge of showing open contempt for the people they are sworn to represent....when in fact they are secretly sworn to represent people and groups who are not elected...not appointed......but in secret occult combinations.....

    The open sense of entitlement combined with the "Blame Game" is one of the telltale indicators that this is taking place and now out in the open.....The cracks are beginning to show.

    Most of us have never heard or read these versions of our wars and histories. It appears to be forbidden to most of us without extensive digging or deep research.


    Be Very Very Warned these Ishmaelites..

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    How many of you members even knew that the French Army went on strike as a result of the horrific casualties inflicted upon them by the Germans in WW1. This knowledge is pretty much not told or taught to us ...by our rigged politicalized education system and or leadership while leading and or misleading us right into the next war.

    Do not be ignorant of history....or as some famous philosopher implied you will repeat it......,


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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    Ukraine has wiped out 7 Russian ships in the Black sea.
     
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    Another step closer to what is appearing to be the conclusion of humanity depopulation .
     
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    General Douglas Macgregor speaks about the war in Ukraine.




     
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    Old Geezer I see you are like me an are up at a odd time of the night . Dogs got me up . I have a mountain lion as a neighbor and it appears to have chosen my yard to look for food tonight . It ain't got a thing to do with Ukraine but will try to post a picture of the cat taken a few days ago .
     
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    "Nice kitty! Nice kitty!" :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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    My oldest son and I are night creatures. When a younger man, my eyes adapted instantly to a very dark room after the light switch was turned to OFF. I still see better than most people during dark environs. I do however lose my color sight. Dynamite at grey scale. My wife is the opposite. At night, she uses the yellow-gold shooting glasses to better discern road conditions if having to drive.

    Last job before retiring, people would ask me why I kept my office so dark. I told them that it wasn't dark to me. I had two banks of ceiling fluorescent lights. It was indeed rare for me to ever turn them on. I had a desk lamp and that was more that sufficient. On a cloudy day, I'll be wearing my sunglasses. Bright days are a killer to my eyes. A night, my pupils are still almost pinpoint. And no, I do not take opioids. It's just that my retinas do their job in the dark. My brain is wired for existing in the darkness. My youngest son and my wife are morning people. Everybody is wired differently.

    As I sit here, I have my home office desk-top lamp on. I cover the top of it with aluminum foil to lessen its light. Same with my nightstand light next to my side of the bed. I also use low intensity bulbs. To me, these are fine. To others, it appears that I'm almost in the dark. My computer screen's brightness is turned way down relative to where other people set their brightness levels. Just at the eye doctor. My vision with my glasses on is 20/15 bilaterally. My eye doc shakes his head. I did have to have cataract surgery bilaterally. Had early onset and rapid cataract development as did my paternal grandfather.

    Oh, I still bought night vision equip. I'm human, not a total owl. Owls are very special creatures = Divine Engineering writ large. It's me and the Hawk souls who get along. They come out to greet me. There's a reason. Long story about the latter. The Cherokee are well versed in these matters. They know a ton more than I'll ever know.
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      Just dawned on me. I can be slow. Could be that the hawks come out to greet the hawk that entered me. Prideful me. It's not me who they are coming out to see. Gotta tone-down my ego. One does get guided, though. Some people can feel their guides. Me, I can't. My dreams have a habit of coming true, but that doesn't mean that a person is psychic. Dreams are sent to you. I sometimes hear what a person is going to say before they say it, but that isn't anything psychic either. My wife gets spooked by it. My mom was mega-religious, so my dreams coming true scared the ever-loving dickens out'a her. Could be the devil :D !
       
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