Urban Survival And Water

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/...0190718-zjeqjcb46jb5nk5u7b3bwv2jei-story.html


Good morning all,

Article about high rise urban survival in re water.

A solution: Don't live 30 stories up.

 

Good morning TMT Tactical.

Exactly on point.

Plans are just printouts.

If it wasn't a water problem, could an elderly person evacuate from a high rise building ?

The usual "solution" is to transfer the evac problem - and cost - to the public sector.

 

Good morning Lone Wolf,

I understand your point. It has an amount of value.

Still, "urban survival" does exist as a discipline that's well developed and thriving.

I've mentioned elsewhere at msf.com that some finance houses on Wall Street have evac hydrofoils to relocate their executives. Some of the high-rise condo buildings are "hardened" and well supplied.

True, the numbers of people in the concentrated areas do not make the situation desirable for the best of safety but I'm only replying to "urban survival".

 

Good morning Lone Wolf,

"Wall Street" is akin to 19th century Great Power royalty. It is where money buys more than honey.

For the overall urban area with the city's inhabitants: agree. For specifics like the Wall Street orgs, supplies, infrastructure with its maintenance support systems are in place. Retreat area from Wall Street involve some islands in Long Island Sound and other nearby locals. Even disease and health issues are addressed by the retreat community having a clinic staffed with physicians, dentists and their professional support staff personnel. There is even a seaplane base at southeast Bronx(officially listed as inactive [ Can $$$ buy reactivation?]) Violence and looting ? Premier security detachments handle this. I remember reading about them in the pub of American Security Industrial Society.

I can discuss London but can say Hong Kong BCC - when the Brits ran the place - had similar arrangements to my above narrative about Wall Street and their retreats.

Nothing will approximate a rural environment for survival and safety under the "all things being equal, ... " but am only saying "urban survival" is a program that is working.

 

During the recent blackout in New York City one of the councilman (woman) was touting the plans they (New York) had put in place for this specific purpose. She indicated there were lists of people living in the high rises who would need assistance in evacuating. First Responders would focus on getting these people out first.

Do you know if this is true, or just some politician blowing smoke?

 

Good afternoon Morgan 101,

Just by coincidence ..........

I am sure "the plans" are best described by TMT Tactical: plans to get facility into regulatory compliance - and thus eligible for more grant $$$.

Just by coincidence, a couple of years ago, I attended a mid-Atlantic regional FEMA meeting in Newport News, Virginia. One of the speakers was the attorney who successfully sued New York City for non-compliance in the evacuation of the disabled during emergencies. At the break, I met him and he avoided my question. To use your term: "just smoke".

There are not enough emergency responders in NYC to evac ~ 8000,000 people (to where ?!). It's worse as of the latest blackout.

 

You are probably right. More than likely another politician pumping up their chest, and patting each other on the back for doing basically nothing. Oh look at how important we are. Look at what we did for your safety. A plan that is completely unachievable, and impossible to implement.