Us Army Testing New,improved Covid Vaccine

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  1. Pragmatist

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  2. lonewolf

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    so not approved? , soldiers being used as guinea pigs?
    trial only. good luck with that one.
     
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  3. Max rigger

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    Solution to a problem that does not exist? We have working vaccines already that seem to be working with the variants I thought.
     
  4. Old Geezer

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    Veterans Administration allows veterans to be used as guinea pigs.

    New physicians doing their residencies at VA hospitals sure do test their skills on America's finest.

    New drugs in clinical trial sure do flood the corridors of VA hospitals.
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    Democrat politicians in the United States has a history of looking down on the military personnel as being low life as they are as not as rich as them and were gullible enough to risk their lives for freedom and an honest political system . I can easily believe they would use them like lab rats to experiment on . Before someone gets their drawers in a wad , I will say I am one of those gullible veterans that volunteered to go fight in Viet Nam for the citizens in Nam's freedom .
     
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    I pity any prepper that ends up in one of the Democrats re-education camps . Like the experiments carried out by Nazi Germans on their prisoners , I would think the people lording over the United States would have no qualms about experimenting on preppers or anyone else that doesn't bow down to them .
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    These camps will be filled with the human flotsam and jetsam of cities that have self-destructed. Only the political part of the military will obey Democratic Socialist edicts. Me, I see a real possibility of a military takeover of America. The military that does that will be the fighting military, i.e. conservative in nature. Our fighting military has zero respect for the Left.
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    In 1990 I was working a work study job for the VA while I was in college. I was working as a janitor in the VA hospital of the evening for extra money for groceries and diapers. I had the displeasure one evening of cleaning a room attached to a meeting room that the doctors were having there weekly debriefing in. There were seven doctors in the room and as I listened two of them had lost patients (3 patients total) that week and as I listened it was very clear that those men died due to negligence. It was also very clear that they were conspiring together on how to answer inquiries about the deaths. Cover up there screw ups.

    When I stepped around the corner so that they could see me, they all got that look on there faces like someone you just caught having sex with someone that's NOT there spouse. One of them turned pale and not one of them spoke. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Never forgot it.

    I still hear horror stories from other vets about treatment. A disgrace.

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    "Navy Commander Warns of National Security Threat from Mandatory Vaccination"

    https://www.revolver.news/2021/08/n...l-security-threat-from-mandatory-vaccination/

    "In a memorandum released on Monday, Biden Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announced his intention to require a COVID-19 vaccination for all servicemembers by mid-September, or immediately should any COVID vaccines clear FDA approval (the vaccines are currently only authorized for emergency use). Servicemen who refuse to submit to the vaccine will potentially face court martials, prison time, and even less-than-honorable discharge from the service.

    "If that plan goes ahead, though, CDR J.H. Furman warns the results could conceivably be catastrophic.

    “'The forced vaccination of all military personnel with the present COVID-19 vaccines may compromise U.S. national security due to the unknown extent of serious vaccine complications,”writes Furman. “Further study is needed before committing the Total Force to one irreversible experimental group. Initial reports leave more concern for the COVID-19 vaccinations than the virus itself for the (at present) exceptionally healthy military population.'

    "Furman is a career United States naval officer, naval aviator, and foreign area officer with extensive experience advising senior military, diplomatic, and international organization leadership. The commander has spent years serving throughout Africa, Asia, Europe, the Middle East at sea, ashore and airborne. He also holds a Master of Arts in Security Studies from the Naval Postgraduate School.

    "Furman’s paper is not long, weighing in at just two and a half pages plus an equally long list of citations. But he nevertheless hits all the key points for why imposing COVID-19 vaccines on the entire general populace is driven by hysteria, not real concern for saving lives or stamping out the virus.

    "Furman’s key points are:

    > "The average member of the U.S. military is young and in excellent physical fitness, two categories that are nearly immune to the dangers of COVID. So far, only 24 people out of 2.2 million military personnel have died of COVID-19, a rate of less than one per 91,000.

    > "There is reason to believe severe or even fatal side-effects from existing COVID-19 vaccines are more common than reported, and could even prove deadlier to otherwise-healthy servicemen than COVID-19.

    > "There is also the outlier possibility that mRNA vaccines (the kind used by the Moderna and Pfizer shots) may have unanticipated negative effects on the immune systems of recipients.

    > "Currently, the U.S. military has proven completely capable of weathering COVID-19 without any loss of effectiveness, so forcibly making the entire service a test case for a novel type of vaccine is a pointless risk."

    Also, there is the matter of the mRNA vaccines being only 40% effective against new covid variants. A rather high percentage of people who have been vaccinated are getting these new variants (population percentages vary with country and with regions within individual countries). The Johnson & Johnson vaccine proved less effective than the mRNA experimental vaccines (well, they are all experimental).
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  10. Old Geezer

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    Ivermectin proving effective in preventing covid-19.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i...than-3-per-person-with-miraculous-ivermectin/

    "India develops COVID treatment kit for less than $3 per person with ‘miraculous’ ivermectin"

    "INDIA, January 18, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — While the United States continues its aggressive military roll-out of novel, expensive and dangerous pharmaceutical vaccines, India has developed a “miraculously” effective and safe COVID-19 treatment kit which costs merely $2.65 per person and has helped put the nation’s case and fatality rates in 'steep decline.'”

    "Last month, several medical experts testified before the U.S. Senate Homeland Security Committee in favor of authorizing ivermectin for early treatment of the novel coronavirus. Among them, Dr. Pierre Kory, founding member of Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), explained that ivermectin, a Nobel Prize–winning anti-parasitic agent, 'basically obliterates transmission of this virus,' with 'miraculous effectiveness.'

    "Ivermectin has been the subject of dozens of studies and anecdotal success stories since it was found to reduce COVID-19 in a laboratory last June.

    'I've been treating COVID pretty much every single day since the onset,' Kory said. 'When I say ‘miracle’ I do not use that term lightly…that is a scientific recommendation based on mountains of data that has emerged in the last three months.'

    "In contrast, on the other side of the world, India has embraced the treatment protocol specified by Dr. Kory and his colleagues and is now manufacturing this product under the brand name 'Ziverdo Kit' and it only costs approximately $2.65 per person.

    "FLCCC has developed a treatment regimen incorporating ivermectin, which the group claims has led to up to 83% lower-than-average COVID-19 death rates in hospitals that have applied it.

    "'Without any treatment, we know that the virus enters the cells and replicates there,' Paranjpe said. 'They can create disease that gets much more severe.' Stopping such replication as early as possible is the simple function of these inexpensive and safe treatments."

    https://rumble.com/vl2uxz-icu-nurse-youre-being-lied-to-about-covid..html
     
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