Usa Civil War, Version 2.0

Discussion in 'Urban Survival' started by Dalewick, Jun 13, 2020.

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Will the USA be at war before 2021?

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  1. Old Geezer

    Old Geezer Legendary Survivalist
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  2. poltiregist

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    It is still a little too far to predict but the pivot point for a war could shape up in less than 12 months from now . My opinion only but I think Donald Trump will easily win another term as the U.S. President for another 4 years . The delusional Democrats will go berserk . The burning , looting and attacking anyone they presume might be a Trump supporter will issue on an scale much larger than we are already witnessing . This sets up the playing field , with Donald Trump having the U.S. military at his bidding . On the disillusioned Democrat side they may have the military support of Communist China , Russia , and any other Communist country that want to try to overthrow the U.S. Government . -=-- Such an scenario doesn't leave many Not involved in the conflict . Those that try to sit it out may find themselves like in the first U.S. Civil War being given not much of a choice but participate in some manner . Remember the Southern Home Guard of the first Civil War . Deadbeats and cowards were not looked upon kindly . Some wanting to not take a side were shot or hung . -- Remember the raping of the women with the blessing of their leader when Russian troops entered Berlin . Would you expect any better from the Chinese troops or troops from a Muslim country ? When foreign troops are on our own soil do you think we will nuke our own country ? Perhaps I am thinking too far ahead but that is the way my mind works . --- Members of other countries be aware if the U.S. falls the communist will look at this as cutting the head off of a snake . The Communist will focus on a new country to conquer . If you are wondering which country would be next , a good clue is look at the countries the communist are now probing to see how many useful idiots they can get to try to disrupt their government under the guise of protests .
     
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  3. arctic bill

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    I am not an american, I am Canadian. that being said i follow what is happening south of me. A lot of the people on this site see trump winning the election, some said even easily.
    but if i look at all the polls not just fox or breibart i see Biden with a win .

    President: general election Wis.

    JUN 23-25, 2020
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    Trafalgar Group 1,021 LV Biden
    45%
    46%
    Trump Trump +1
    June 26, 2020
    President: general election

    JUN 24-25, 2020
    B
    YouGov 1,244 RV Biden
    47%
    39%
    Trump Biden +8
    President: general election

    JUN 22-24, 2020
    A+
    Marist College 1,515 RV Biden
    52%
    44%
    Trump Biden +8
    President: general election

    JUN 22-23, 2020
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    HarrisX 951 RV Biden
    43%
    39%
    Trump Biden +4
    President: general election

    JUN 8-14, 2020
    Kaiser Family Foundation
    1,094 RV Biden
    51%
    38%
    Trump Biden +13
    President: general election

    JUN 6-11, 2020
    Climate Nexus
    9,087 RV Biden
    48%
    41%
    Trump Biden +7
    June 25, 2020
    President: general election Texas

    JUN 20-23, 2020
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    Fox News 1,001 RV Biden
    45%
    44%
    Trump Biden +1
    President: general election N.C.

    JUN 20-23, 2020
    A-
    Fox News 1,012 RV Biden
    47%
    45%
    Trump Biden +2
    President: general election Ga.

    JUN 20-23, 2020
    A-
    Fox News 1,013 RV Biden
    47%
    45%
    Trump Biden +2
    President: general election Fla.

    JUN 20-23, 2020
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    Fox News 1,010 RV Biden
    49%
    40%
    Trump Biden +9
    President: general election

    JUN 19-22, 2020
    A-
    CNBC/Hart Research/Public Opinion Strategies 800 RV Biden
    47%
    38%
    Trump Biden +9
    President: general election Mich.

    JUN 17-20, 2020
    Hodas & Associates*
    600 LV Biden
    56%
    38%
    Trump Biden +18
    President: general election Wis.

    JUN 14-19, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    846 LV Biden
    45%
    More Biden +9
    President: general election N.C.

    JUN 8-18, 2020
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    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 653 RV Biden
    49%
    40%
    Trump Biden +9
    President: general election Fla.

    JUN 8-18, 2020
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    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 651 RV Biden
    47%
    41%
    Trump Biden +6
    President: general election N.C.

    JUN 14-17, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    902 LV Biden
    46%
    More Biden +6
    President: general election Ariz.

    JUN 14-17, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    865 LV Biden
    43%
    More Biden +4
    President: general election Mich.

    JUN 8-17, 2020
    A+
    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 610 RV Biden
    47%
    36%
    Trump Biden +11
    President: general election Mich.

    JUN 14-16, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    826 LV Biden
    47%
    More Biden +11
    President: general election Pa.

    JUN 14-16, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    1,125 LV Biden
    49%
    More Biden +10
    President: general election Wis.

    JUN 12-16, 2020
    Hodas & Associates*
    600 LV Biden
    55%
    39%
    Trump Biden +17
    President: general election Pa.

    JUN 8-16, 2020
    A+
    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 651 RV Biden
    50%
    40%
    Trump Biden +10
    President: general election Ariz.

    JUN 8-16, 2020
    A+
    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 650 RV Biden
    48%
    41%
    Trump Biden +7
    President: general election Fla.

    JUN 14-15, 2020
    Redfield & Wilton Strategies
    1,079 LV Biden
    45%
    More Biden +4
    President: general election Wis.

    JUN 8-15, 2020
    A+
    Siena College/The New York Times Upshot 655 RV Biden
    49%
    38%
    Trump Biden +11
    President: general election Pa.

    JUN 8-11, 2020
    Hodas & Associates*
    600 LV Biden
    54%
    42%
    Trump Biden +12
    June 24, 2020
     
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    1. Dalewick
      AB, The polls are complete BS. They were saying the same thing last election when Killary was winning by a landslide. She lost. There are already people being charged with voter fraud on the primaries. Guess which party they are with.
      The majority of Americans are conservative to some degree but they are a truly silent majority. If things do go side ways in the USA, please remember it only took 3% to win the Revolutionary war. There are more patriots in the country than that now.
       
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  4. Morgan101

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    This is strange beyond belief but I feel exactly the same way. There is something in the air that is foreboding. I am not one for conspiracy theories, but I just have a gut feeling that something really bad is going to happen to all of us. I never had a class, and I was never in the military, but I think I recognize that same feeling. It makes me want to step up the preps even harder.
     
  5. TexDanm

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    If this goes to a civil war it will be done and over in no time. Blacks represent a 13% minority. Most of them are good people and not part of the problem. There are a far greater number of insane liberal that are not black that are slightly more of a problem. Up against them are almost a hundred million Conservatives that represent nearly all of the military and a majority of the police. The rest of us are, at least in the Conservative freestates, are armed to the teeth. What will the liberals bring to the war? bolt action 22s and a few hunting shotguns. Hell, I am not one of the totally gun-crazy people and I have 50 or so firearms. The gangbangers with their crap weapons won't last past the first skirmish. With my deer rifle, I can hit a cigarette package sized target at 300 yards. If you get close I can put 14 rounds of buckshot in the air about as fast as I can pull the trigger. Two days after it starts I will have full-auto capability.

    Nearly everyone I know has some sort of quasi-military type long arm and we ALL carry handguns and are good with them. Outnumbered 10 to 1 or more and also outgunned by a hundred to one it will be a blood bath and over fast. We have allowed animals to take over our cities. If they take their violence outside of their neighborhoods and attack the wrong people it will be like throwing a bucket of gasoline on a fire. WHOOOOM and there will be dead animals all over the place.
     
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    1. Dalewick
      TD, You appear (I could be wrong) to think this will be like a conventional war, where you can recognize your enemy. I don't see that happening. This will be or may already be a form of guerilla warfare. Groups like ANTIFA have been going to other countries (Iran, Libya, China, etc) for terrorist training and training in guerilla warfare. They may not be being charged or hunted down for there crimes, but how is arson, assaults, destruction of public property and intimidation not acts of terrorism if the are meant to alter peoples behavior? I believe they know where there safe to conduct destabilization operations for now, and where there not. Who talked Trump out of using the Insurrection Act? What do they have to gain?
       
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  6. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Arctic Bill,

    I'm one of those south of the St. Lawrence see Trump winning.

    When North Carolina went to mail-in ballots, along with the 3 People's Democratic Republics on the Pacific Coast, the Trump second inaugural started to get planned.

    "He who controls the rimland, controls ......"

    Who controls the election tallies ? It will go to the Supremes and they have their requirements to be met.

    Full Disclosure; I am on Team Trump.
     
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  7. TMT Tactical

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    I am watching Netflix TV program --- V War ---. Science fiction / horror . New Vampire species vs. humans vs. government. Now if you use a bit of imagination and substitute the various vampire groups for BLM and ANTIFA vs. government and conservatives, you may be getting a prelude to the problem of a civil war of Socialist vs. Conservatives vs. government responses. Changing the characters a bit does provide a whole different outlook and the issues presented. Enjoy.
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...ncel_mobs_cant_get_any_worse_think_again.html

    "What America is going through right now is not merely another, more intense round of 'cancel culture.' We’re now in the midst of a full-force, totalitarian remolding of our society, one that seeks to place the petty resentments of an outraged minority of leftist activists above everything else in American life. Because of their willingness to riot, loot, and assault anyone they perceive to be insufficiently sympathetic to their cause, leftists are able to bully ordinary people into submission."
     
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  9. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    Just read the Harlan Hill article.

    I'd like to add a foundation block of the "totalitarian remolding of our society".

    The FICA subpoenas for the attempted White House / palace coup d' against Trump, is soon to surface re criminal charges against those who worked the FICA requests.

    The best background article I've ever read re all this remolding was in the February, 2020 issue of Hillsdale College IMPRIMIS. It's an article by Christopher Caldwell titled "The Roots of our Partisan Divide".

    A couple of quotes:

    "involves the Vietnam War ... student deferment ... produced a class division"

    "emergency measures ending segregation ... under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ... authority to override ... now become the most powerful part of our governing system"

    "racial quotas for public schools"

    "1978 Bakke decision ... US Marine Captain ... medical school rejected"

    IMPRIMIS: imprimis@hillsdale.edu ( I think / hope). I'm absolutely confident you'll appreciate reading about article. Meanwhile, back to sticking my pulp copy of above in cover of Oswald Spengler's "THE DECLINE OF THE WEST".
     
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