War In Ukraine

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  1. poltiregist

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    Nato has now stood up to Puttin . Either he can back down or escalate the war . This is shaping into a SHTF situation that many " even on this prepper forum " have proclaimed would never happen . If this SHTF nuclear situation should materialize across the globe it will bring on a sharp distinction between those that only prepared for an inconvenience and those that prepared for the apocalypse .
     
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    it is being said Putin is scheduled for cancer surgery, its been delayed because of the war, he is due to hand over control to a deputy while he has surgery. its also being said he has Schizophrenia symptoms which would explain some of his disturbing actions of late.
    #Pelosi was in Ukraine yesterday# WTF.
     
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    Russia threatening nuclear war shows just how weak they are.
    the Russian troops in Dombas-mostly conscripts-may not be able to survive, morale is low, their officers are shooting at them to get them to fight, and the material loses are huge.
    the 10th Russian general has just been killed, they are losing an average of one per week.
    the Russian Bear turns out to be a little Teddy bear, as a military force they are a laughing stock.
     
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    "NATO Jets Intercept Russian Fighters Multiple Times In Baltic & Black Sea Regions"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...hters-multiple-times-baltic-black-sea-regions

    "NATO fighter jets were scrambled on multiple occasions in response to Russian aircraft which came near alliance airspace in the Black and Baltic Sea regions at a moment the Western alliance continues deepening its involvement in Ukraine via weapons shipments and intelligence-sharing.

    "The intercepts have been ongoing over this past week. NATO officials said the alliance tracked an unspecified number of aircraft since Tuesday via radar.

    "'Russian military aircraft often do not transmit a transponder code indicating their position and altitude, do not file a flight plan, or do not communicate with air traffic controllers, posing a potential risk to civilian airliners,' NATO’s air command described in a statement.

    "It goes without saying that these close encounters are highly dangerous at a moment any level of direct diplomatic communications have largely ceased.

    "Additionally, the Kremlin has lately repeated its warning that any NATO military aid or assistance entering Ukraine is a 'legitimate target'. "
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    https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1520161006739083264

    "In the past four days, #NATO jets scrambled multiple times in the Baltic and Black Sea to intercept Russian military planes, NATO says.

    "The interceptions were conducted by planes from the UK, Denmark, Romania, Poland, France and Spain"
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    wars and rumor of wars....
     
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    according to an FSB(KGB) agent Putin is leading Russia into "total collapse and civil war" and the war in Ukraine will fail.
     
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    by lonewolf...


    I am not so sure that these are Ukrainian fighters doing this if the story is true... but it will come out in the news...in the end..
    As I said...I do not trust most of the news media.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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    Chechen fighters are killing off injured Russian troops.
     
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=b2f67e30ede543f0912afecea2b0702e The above link is an update on the war . Reportedly Russia's top General was recently in the meeting in Ukraine to tell the other officers about the dire situation they faced if they continued to lose the war . The results being , 200 of those in the meeting being killed and by some reports the top General wounded but still alive . This sends quite a message to Puttin . The link goes on to discuss some of the same things some members of this forum have forecast , the very real possibility of a nuclear World War 3 .
     
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    when ANY country in the world has nuclear weapons, WW3 is ALWAYS a possibility, there is always that temptation to use them just because they exist, all it takes is someone to give the order to fire.
     
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    The odds of the U.S. or the U.K. going first-use nuclear weapons is infinitely less than that of a North Korea, China, or Russia going first-use. Those countries are run by overt aggressors. They are utterly in opposition to God's will. Their souls are dead.

    During WWII, Japan had gone pure sociopathic. Nuking two cities saved millions of lives. After that, the USA was the only nuclear power and could have annihilated all of its enemies and all of its potential enemies, but did not do so.

    It does frighten me, however, that those currently in power here in Amerika perpetually spit in the Face of God. This is why I see the godless cities being annihilated by geophysical forces or by war.
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=ded0ea5fe1ad46d199b071759f99978d --- Whether Puttin was bluffing about starting a Nuclear World War 3 or was iron clad serious , he has been called out to show what he will really do . Nato has gone full charge ahead with advanced weaponry supplies to Ukraine . Sweden and Finland have announced their application to join NATO as a result of Putin's invasion . At this point in time , it may be really bad for folks that didn't prepare , pretended to prepare or only half as-- prepared . Toward the last part of the written link is what I found the most interesting .
     
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    Without knowing what is going on behind the scenes in Moscow, I would put it as a toss-up.

    Putin could be replaced / assassinated. A dog that shows weakness is killed by its pack.

    Option two would be that since conventional warfare is not getting the job done in Ukraine, Putin and/or senior generals could go with their field-grade nukes. A few balloons would go up, then Putin, et. al., would tell the powers that be in Kiyv to surrender. It's not just Putin losing face in front of his own and the world, so too is the Russian military. That just can't be allowed to happen. Saving face is everything.

    The world is already punishing Putin, what's he got to lose? Russia is still selling fuel to the West -- that has not been utterly shut down. If the West tightens the screws on Putin, he can do further harm to Europe short of nuking any other countries. The economy of Europe is held together with glue and popsicle sticks -- big government has sucked the life out of the economies therein. Cut off more fuel to Europe and it is in deep trouble. Before attacking Ukraine, Russia cut some serious economic deals with China.
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    Should we look for a Black Sea nuclear detonation by Russia as a warning to the West?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18410998/five-chilling-ways-putin-could-turn-ukraine-war-nuclear/

    "VLADIMIR Putin could turn the Ukraine war nuclear by dropping a bomb over the Black Sea or firing at a US target, a national security expert has said.

    "Russia has already warned its shambolic invasion of Ukraine is likely to end in a nuclear world war with the Russian tyrant 'more probable' to launch a nuke than accept defeat.

    "While the threats have been dismissed by both the US and the UK as mere bluster, fears of an all-out war using nuclear armaments are a realistic possibility as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine falters and troops continue to meet fierce opposition.

    "Concerns were raised after Russia test-fired its nuclear missile Sarmat 2 last week, with Putin boasting it was able to strike anywhere on earth and couldn’t be stopped by existing missile defences.

    "Joseph Cirincione, a distinguished fellow at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft in Washington, D.C, has now revealed five chilling ways Putin could unleash nuclear weapons on the world.

    "Speaking on Bill Press Pods, he warned the Russian dictator could initially fire nukes into the Black Sea as a 'demonstration shot' before using nuclear weapons on targets in Ukraine.

    "The purpose of this is to 'escalate to de-escalate' if the war is going badly.


    "'If the Russians felt they were on the verge of defeat, they would fire off a nuclear shot to indicate the seriousness of the situation, and to cause the West to back off.

    "'If that were to happen, I would say the reaction would be shock and horror - but it would not require a military response.

    "'You don't have to do anything there. I would say the US response would be more diplomatic.'

    "In a second scenario, Mr Cirincione said Putin could unleash a 'very low yield weapon' on a military target in Ukraine, killing thousands and causing major damage.

    "'Again, the US would not necessarily require a military solution,' he said.

    "'The third possibility is that they use a serious nuclear weapon - Hiroshima sized or more - and it strikes and it destroys a city in Ukraine.

    "'At that point, that's where things get quite serious.

    "'I would immediately expect to see long-range military response from Nato. Not Nato forces on the ground, but long-range strikes, which we are perfectly capable of doing.

    "'We could strike the launch site, for example, and definitely send a message saying 'do not do this again'. That's what you're trying to do, trying to control the escalation.'

    "TARGETING NATO ..."

    The above article continues by detailing Russian nuclear strike escalation levels 4 then 5.

    Me, I think that Putin letting a balloon go up in the Black Sea or using a mini-nuke (air-burst, little fallout) on a Ukrainian military asset is quite likely. Going nuke to hit NATO targets in western Europe I believe is highly unlikely.

    Putin and senior Russian military brass need to terrorize Western citizens and legislators to shut them up. He also needs to stop the flow of Western military equipment without striking supply lines outside of Ukraine. A nuclear show of force could well achieve these goals.
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    I do like the link above but also believe the author has not grasped the true gravity of the situation . Like many people , I have noticed are trying to convince themselves Puttin will send out a warning nuclear launch or contain it within the boarders of Ukraine . This I categorize as a denial as to the true possibility . Personally I don't think Puttin wants to contaminate Ukraine with radiation but wants its food production capabilities intact . A Nuke strike would be full scale and directed at NATO countries , with special emphasis being place to destroy the United States .
     
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    Putin may not be himself, but I doubt that he is suicidal. I also doubt his military is suicidal.

    There's crazy sh## and then there's full-throw nuclear war.

    Air bursts produce very little fallout. This is also true of neutron warheads. You wipe-out the enemy, then move your people into that area.

    Going full-bore nuclear war against the West would result in a whole lot of fallout landing in Russia even if the West were not able to strike back.

    If the super-powers use their cobalt warheads, then fallout shelters mean nothing.
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    I think Putin is paranoid (I also think he's insane) but so is most of the inner circle including Lavrov and most of the Russian media too.
    this propaganda that everyone in the West are all "Nazis" or Nazi supporters is not just laughable its crazy.
    the Russians are now saying some of the Ukrainian forces are Satanists using black magic, you just couldnt make this stuff up, it gets stupider by the moment.
    in a Western Democracy such remarks would get them laughed out of Parliament, I suppose in a Dictatorship one has to keep ones mouth shut or be shipped off to Siberia.
     
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    A sort of motto for preppers " prepare for the worst and hope for the best " , certainly now holds true in the planet's perilously position . Just wishing it away or denying it exist simply will not wash it away . Preppers that prepared for the worst may find themselves living on a vastly depopulated planet with zero stores and electricity , as some might compare to the dark ages .
     
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    Now thats more like it, too many humans on Planet Earth these days.
    a reduced population, zero stores and no electricity is more of a natural life, more natural than the one we are currently living.
     
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=42f3c8d6034142649fe32dd2eb77d671 I have no idea if the information on the above link is based in any truth , but it is at least an interesting read on the mindset of the Russians . The Russians are not contemplating nuking Ukraine . Nope they are contemplating nuking NATO countries . --- just a add on . The above link is to a threat by something called a Poseidon Underwater Drone . Apparently some type of underwater torpedo weapon tipped with a touted 100 megaton nuclear warhead capable of creating a tsunami 500 meters high when sent in close to a country's shores and exploded . The UK was in particular touted as a target by the angry Russians . --- Personally I wouldn't be too upset if they sent two or three of those things to explode off the coast of California .
     
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    I dont believe the Russians are going to nuke anywhere, including the UK, they arent stupid, fanatical yes, stupid no, they know that any missile fired at a NATO country will get multiple replies fired at Moscow.
     
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    This is not true at all......lonewolf...

    They are not Satanists........at all......they are devout Luciferians....and so too is NATO and the UN....Deep Staters/onc worlders all.

    And many of them are entrenched in the US Government....and have been for over a Hundred years...

    The Crown is made up of Devout Luciferians....not Satanists.

    And this is a devout and zealous religion which will not be taught in public schools....

    If one knows certain things about Symbology one can see it all over the place.

    One of their Devout and Zealous goals of one worlders...new world order types...is to prepare a world for Ishmael and his seed and get rid of the line of Isaac and his Seed.

    Ishmael here referring to bondage.....

    One has to get out of the standard line of public education to follow this pattern...this includes what passes for news and information....today.


    My non Ishsmaelite .02,
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    I have no interest in religion and religious dogma, all this stuff is over my head.
     
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    there are more and more reports of Russian Elites planning to push Putin out over the war in Ukraine.
     
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    Your kidding right??? You do understand that today's politics...including climate change and its zealous nature are a devout and zealous religion at work....right??? A devout religious dogma at work!!??

    The lack of tolerance , diversity, and inclusiveness of the left while demanding tolerance, diversity and inclusiveness...of others is a devout and zealous religion ...yes???

    Tolerance, diversity, and inclusiveness is a leftist invention.....progressive.

    This business going on right now with the US Supreme Court and Roe vs Wade is a textbook example of this devout religion of politics at work. The very thing I am describing about religion....politics.

    Critical Race Theory is not tolerance, diversity, or inclusiveness...it is pure religion/politics for votes and control.
    Government sponsored and approved racism is now the new watchword to gain votes.

    And so too is Roe vs Wade.....devout political religion for the female vote...

    When one spots this pattern going on so often and with the same goals in mind....power and control of the herd....one realizes the nature of the "devout Fallen/deceitful " religion going on. The religion of the lie...

    The Ukraine itself is a lie....and getting bigger and will eventually involve millions and millions if the politicians have their way. They are protecting something there for which they do not want the ordinary people to know.
    Something for which we here in America have nothing to gain...by fighting or arming any of the sides.
    The Ukraine is becoming a part of the devout and zealous religion.

    This devout and zealous religion is all around us.....it is international in scope...the religion of the lie..

    And some of us here know the name of the father of lies....by name....and have known for a long long time.

    And I have not even gone into the symbology here....yet!!!!


    Ishmaelites run wild...

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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    the war in Ukraine is all about bully boy tactics by Russia a capitalist country vs a communist country, and we cannot let Ukraine fail or else it will never end, other countries are and will be in the frame. Britain is doing as much as we can, more than any EU country who are squabbling amongst themselves, as usual.
    I dont see any religion or religious dogma in this, just an aggressive and brutal regime trying to force its will on another, much like what happened in WW2.
     
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    "Your kidding right??? You do understand that today's politics...including climate change and its zealous nature are a devout and zealous religion at work....right??? A devout religious dogma at work!!??

    "The lack of tolerance , diversity, and inclusiveness of the left while demanding tolerance, diversity and inclusiveness...of others is a devout and zealous religion ...yes???" -- WatcherChris

    I call them "born-again Leftists." They are far more neurotic/OCD than the Bible-thumpers. Lack of reason never stands in their way.

    Centralized power always goes corrupt, yet they return to it like a dog to its vomit.

    In the 20th century over 22 nations went bankrupt after their fiat currencies hyper-inflated out of existence. What is the answer today's liberals pose to "fix things"? Yep, print more money.

    Most brain disorders can't be fixed. And sometimes, there's just not enough cerebral cortex there to begin with.
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    "Is the left agitating for war with Russia so it can cement domestic tyranny?"

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...russia_so_it_can_cement_domestic_tyranny.html

    "It has been odd and alarming watching the powers-that-be relentlessly escalate the proxy war our government is waging against Russia. It's not just that we're sending billions of dollars of weapons into Ukraine, are calling Vladimir Putin a war criminal and issuing other fightin' words, are training Ukrainian troops, and are trying to effect Moscow's economic destruction. It's also that, senior American officials have now revealed, via intelligence aid, the U.S. has helped to:
    • kill Moscow's generals,
    • down a plane carrying Russian soldiers, and
    • sink one of Putin's warships.
    "The kicker: By revealing this publicly — perhaps as strikingly inappropriate as leaking a Supreme Court draft opinion — Biden administration officials appear to be bragging about these "exploits" and rubbing the Russians' noses in them. If you wanted to provoke a hot war, this is exactly how you'd do it.

    "But why would our officials seek conflict with the nation boasting the world's largest stockpile of nukes (6,000) in the name of thwarting aggression that, as I explained here and here, globalist policy invited and is none of our affair? It all has a Dr. Strangelove–esque quality about it.

    "But there may be a method to this madness. And, no, a mere desire to enrich weapons-manufacturer political donors doesn't explain it. There is one motivation that would, however: a serious conflict would provide the left an opportunity to seize complete domestic control, to cement its power — perhaps permanently.

    "For certain is that locking horns with Russia would be used to further curtail civil liberties.

    "Civil rights' trampling would surely be worse under a major-war scenario today. Not only are we much farther down the rabbit hole of moral nihilism and wanton constitutional trespass, but Americans who even question our Ukraine policy are already labeled "stooges of Putin." Moreover, Democrats have already made crystal-clear what they want: complete power — by any means necessary.

    "This desire has manifested itself in politicians such as Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) calling for violence against political opponents and Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) threatening SCOTUS justices who dare vote contrary to the left's agenda.

    "Heeding such calls, the Democrats' de facto storm troopers have effected hundreds of violent riots, more than 600 in 2020 alone. One Democrat operative, Scott Foval, was caught on hidden video in 2016 talking about inciting violence at Trump rallies and unabashedly said, 'We're starting anarchy here.'

    "For certain is that cementing total power requires something Marxist revolutionaries would call "crisis," the third stage of communist subversion. The first, "demoralization," is the undermining of the nation's moral foundation; Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov said this was "more than complete" in the mid-'80s already. The second, "destabilization," is what we've seen with the violence, the toppling of statues, and the intensified attacks on our institutions over the last many years. Now, all we need is a crisis and what it facilitates: revolution — a final seizure of power.

    "A major war (along with food shortages) could certainly fit the bill. And while this may appear a crazy theory, the people in charge may just be crazy enough for it to be true."
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    sorry OG, most of what you and Chris talk about dosent make much sense to a Brit.
    sure, Wokeism and the left is as much a pain here as it is there, but calling climate change a religion dosent make any sense this side of the pond. Politics is as corrupt here as it is there.
     
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    I dont know what the matter is with Putin and Lavrov, they seem to have Nazi's and Jews on the brain, they had to apologise to Israel because of some comment over Hitler.
    I think they both must have phycological problems.
     
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    War Gamer 25 killed in Ukraine when sent to war by Putin, notice to gamers : Computer war games and real war are not the same!!!
     
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    What Olde Geezer says makes perfect sense to me and particularly if one knows the real nature of "Ordo Ob Chao."

    Or put another way...this devout and zealous progressive religious mantra..or dogma of manufacturing chaos to reach their ends....manufacturing another bad guy in the minds of gullible television and or movie trained and programmed people....Manufacturing another Hitler.

    The Hitler Scam is one of the oldest predictable scams out there.....used and misused all to often...on gullible unthining highly emotional people.

    Whenever I hear the word Hitler used/misused on us I know that I am supposed to automatically stop thinking for myself and get on the bandwawon....obey...follow the herd.....become all emotional....and obey...the program to go against the newly manufactured bad guy....good cop/bad cop.

    How many times and people have been labeled Hitler by our phony media and leadership sufficient to get us to stop thinking for ourselves and get on the next war bandwagon...being manufactured to protect someone else's profits????

    Anyone and anything the Deep State does not like or approve gets labeled a Hitler sooner or later. You can see and smell them coming...they are so predictable.

    And so too it is in this case of the Ukraine..manufacturing another generation of bad guys to get everyone on their bandwagon.....treadmill....for profit.



    How many Americans are aware that the Eastern Ukraine voted to follow their Russian Roots...and not go with the west...some years back....about 2014....and that Western Ukraine has been carrying out periodic operations ..military operations against the Eastern Ukraine people who voted to follow Russia.

    Ukraine Region Votes to Join Russia - WSJ

    Azov Battalion - Wikipedia

    This business going on in the Ukraine does not concern us here in the USA and we do not need to be getting involved...

    The Western Deep State powers have been using and misusing the Ukraine as a money laundering operation and so too in Kurdistan...and also in Taiwan...

    This is why the rabid zeal to protect the Ukraine...because the money laundering operation is in jeopardy.

    If there is heavy banking money laundering operations there is likely drug monies involved as well as other illegal activities going way back into history...if one knows any banking and insurance histories....world commerce...and their underwriters.....above and below the table.

    And I know the news media as well as public education is heavily in bed with the Deep State...

    Ishmaelites all...

    I do not trust our American News media....all of them....and in particular on this business of the Ukraine...

    I am with Olde Geezers logic and reason on this ....and also with the History.

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=981b933cd323488399a7f47b114f623f --- Another Russian military ship sunk . As for as I know this makes the 3rd. Russian Military ship the Ukraine ;) military has sunk or severely damaged over the last few days . Puttin will have to do some stretching in his rhetoric tomorrow when he gives his speech to make the Russian people feel strong and victorious . --- It will be interesting to see if Puttin will have to clutch something tomorrow when he gives his speech to keep his hands from trembling .
     
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    talk of Putin using a battlefield nuke tomorrow in Ukraine during the May Day celebrations in Red Square, if he does that will bring condemnation from the whole of the Western world and could change everything as far as Nato involvement goes.
     
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...pc=U531&cvid=736c0272be864399b7b8e8f5705ec063 --- According to this thread the Russians are slowly giving up ground to the advancing Ukraine Military . As I posted back somewhere on this thread the , the Ukraine military has been provided with longer reaching and GPS guided artillery that is devastating Russian ground forces . Something different can be felt in the wind . NATO has called Puttin out to play . He will either have to go big or go home .
     
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    My money is on Putin and top Russian military brass going BIG.

    "Russia’s Small Nukes Are a Big Problem"

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/02/01/russias-small-nukes-are-a-big-problem/

    "If asked, most Americans probably believe the U.S. and Russia are pretty evenly matched on nuclear weapons due to arms control treaties such as the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty—aka New START.

    "That’s not exactly correct.

    "Indeed, with Russia threatening a large-scale invasion of Ukraine at any moment, now is a good time to take note of a little-spoken-of, but glaring, imbalance in our nuclear arsenals—and how it could affect our interests in Europe.

    "While the U.S. and Russia have a similar number of deployed strategic (i.e., high-yield) nuclear weapons as limited under New START, Russia has a 10:1 advantage over us in nonstrategic (i.e., low-yield) nuclear weapons—aka tactical or battlefield nukes.

    "Yes, you read that right: a 10:1 advantage.

    "Today, while open-source numbers are fuzzy, Russia has about 2,000 nonstrategic nuclear weapons, while the U.S. has about 200 total—with half in the U.S. and half in Europe as part of NATO.

    "OK, so what? No one is ever going to use nukes anyway, right?

    "Well, major nuclear weapons states, including Russia, have said that a nuclear war should never be fought. But there are deep concerns among security analysts about whether the Russians really believe that.

    "Russia is believed to have what is called an 'escalate to deescalate' doctrine for its battlefield nukes. Indeed, this doctrine might be better called 'escalate to terminate—and win.'

    "The idea is Russia might employ one (or more) tactical nuclear weapon during a conventional conflict with NATO forces to prevent a defeat, consolidate gains, or even freeze a conflict in place without further fighting.

    "Because the disparity between Russian and U.S. tactical nuclear weapons is so large, Moscow may perceive a NATO nuclear response to lack credibility.

    "Indeed, Moscow may misperceive that if NATO does not have the tactical nuclear capabilities to respond in kind, it would likelier back down than launch a high-yield, strategic weapon at Moscow and risk further escalation.

    "Hanging on to its advantage, Moscow can threaten additional nuclear strikes unless fighting ends on Russia’s terms. In Russia’s ideal world, NATO might decide that there is no good option available to respond and decides to cease hostilities, locking in Moscow’s ill-gotten gains.

    "As we have seen so far—from information campaigns to cyberattacks to military movements—Russia will use every tool in its kit to achieve its geopolitical goals.

    "That approach could include the use of tactical nukes at some point against NATO—meaning these so-called small Russian nukes are a potential big problem for us and our allies."
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    You folks do know that the American 155mm artillery piece...cannon...is nuclear capable ...right!!!?? And our people l...certain of them are trained in this delivery process by artillery....Yes???


    Do you not think that the Russians have the same capability???

    And today these tools are often sighted in using GPS technologies....to get on target with fewer rounds.

    I am thinking some satellites may be taken down soon. What does that do for internet???


    Also been hearing that the Biden Administratioin does not have the nuclear launch codes...that they were never turned over to them by the military. Not sure how true this is.....but it is certainly interesting.

    I remember what happened during the Obama Administration wherein they fired a Navy Admiraal because she would not release to them a nuclear weapon outside the authorized proceedures for releasing said weapon/weapons.
    While I cannot find that article anymore...I remember back when that Admiral was fired and reading about it on line.

    Wondering to myself if is this would a bearing on the Biden Administration not having the launch codes??
    Some are saying that the Biden Administration is Obama II.
    And why would Obama choose to retire from office and live in Washington DC??? I find that strange. Most ex-Presidents choose to retire anywhere but Washington DC.

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
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      Thnx for bringing up the targeting of intel satellites. Putin has all manner of options to shut-down Western military aid to Ukraine. One knows why Joe Blow doesn't know, but when your own government doesn't take such into consideration y'gotta figure that it is either deep ignorance OR they want Russia to escalate. Here's how governments see it: If you can't fix problems at home, you can always start a war and blame everything on the war you started.
       
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    Hitting the birds in space is a core military mission.

    You never hear of this in the news. You do not hear it now even with the Ukrainian war escalating.

    Western birds are pumping intel into Ukraine. So, guess what would be a prime target. Russia has all manner of anti-satellite weaponry to take-down orbital and fixed-position assets. Why wouldn't they use it now?! No reason -- of course they'll target toys in space that are getting their military units vaporized. No one should be shocked when it happens. We have military-dedicated birds, but for heavens sake y'gotta know that commercial birds are also used by the NSA to supplement their intel assets.

    https://www.nsa.gov/Signals-Intelligence/Overview/
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