What Do You Think About Communism

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  1. Vinaya

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    Though I am not a Communist and no one is a Communist in my family, Communism is deep rooted in my home country Nepal. Communists raged a deadly war for 10 years, thousands people died of armed communist insurgency. What's your view on Communism?
     
  2. WildSpirit

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    I think it's an extremely retrograde system of government and that it does not take any other country (if it ever did :rolleyes:) to a promising and egalitarian path. Some friends say that I am very radical at this point, but I honestly can not see a communist country being totally successful.

    I'm totally against it! :cool:
     
  3. explorerx7

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    I am not a Communist and I have never experienced that type of regime. Many people say it a very bad system because it restricts and suppresses its citizens. There seems to be some variation in the types of communism that may be practiced. I have to admit that in spite of the negatives that surrounded the Castro regime in Cuba there were some profound positives. Castro was not ever accused of living the high life whilst his people suffered, the citizens were well educated and the education was mostly free. The country had some of the best doctors in the world. It also seemed that everyone was provided with housing.
     
  4. jeager

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    This:
    " Communists raged a deadly war for 10 years, thousands people died of armed communist insurgency."

    Any questions?

    Let Russia be an example for the rest of the world.

    Communism failed completely.

    Russian has elections.
    They vote.
    They elected Putin.
    A hard line K.G.B. officer and former Communist.
    Go figger?
     
  5. FuZyOn

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    Communism had a lot of good ideas but they were executed badly. I'm all for equality but that was executed so poorly it's laughable. People in my country used to be equally extremely poor but the people at the top were extremely wealthy, especially the president. Equality should apply to the government as well.
     
  6. jeager

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    People in my country

    And that country is??????????????????????
     
  7. jeager

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    Communism under Mao in China.
    "One of unparalleled devastation in which at least 45 million, and possibly as many as 60 million, men, women and children died in less than five years, and the desperate resorted to cannibalism."

    And no one in the higher levels of gov't even knew it and if they did
    the didn't care.
    No one wanted to indicate Mao caused a famine of unparalleled proportions.
    How's that Communism workin' out for ya?

    Communism failed in Russian and China.
    With terrible human suffering.

    Of course even with 45 million dead in 5 years China would hardly notice.

    Like Russia, China has people to waste.
    Disposable people.



     
  8. Seryoga

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    Are you serious? Come on, do not be ridiculous. Russia in 30 years participated in, ww1, civil war, Finnish war and ww2 (of course, Russia is convincingly most deserving for victory over Nazism ) and every Russian man who died on the opposite side was declared a victim of communism in your propaganda.
    The same thing with China (Terrible civil war).

    Make an experiment. Many people from ex Yugoslavia live in the United States and if you can ask any of them whether it is true that the period of the 1980s is called the Golden Age . They will surprise you with the answer about "dark communism"
     
  9. Ystranc

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    I'm not a fan of communism or socialism for the simple reason, it doesn't work. Even China now operates a system of communism-light, iron political control while embracing the economic benefits of capitalism.
     
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  10. jeager

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    Recall Russia and Hitler's Germany signed a non aggression pact.
    Hitler violated that.
    Russia and Hitler's Germany weren't allies but agreed not to fight one
    another.

    Make an experiment. Many people from ex Yugoslavia live in the United States and if you can ask any of them whether it is true that the period of the 1980s is called the Golden Age . They will surprise you with the answer about "dark communism"

    So if those that immigrated to the U.S. from Yugoslavia like "dark communism"
    why, pray tell, did they settle in the U.S.
    Inquiring minds don'cha'know.

    If you don't live in a Communist country and are so enamored with Communism
    why don't you relocate to a Communist country?????
    One wonders why Russia booted Communism?
    Why it failed China so miserably?

    While China’s government may be officially communist, the Chinese people express widespread support for capitalism. Roughly three-quarters of the Chinese (76%) agree that most people are better off in a free market economy. And since 2002, the Chinese have consistently been one of the strongest proponents of capitalism compared with other publics around the world, even more so than Americans and Western Europeans.

    Darn! Whad da ya know 'bout that!

    Without Walmart China might well go broke.:D
     
  11. jeager

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    Now that was a true statement.
    embracing the economic benefits of capitalism

    Absolutely.

    I want to invest in the first Bic razor export to China business.
    I'd make a fortune.
    There's a lot of chins in China!:eek:

    Bawwwwwwwwwwwww-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    I really crack me up!:D

    Oh! I know one fellow slightly that made millions exporting to China in ...............................
    Ready????????????????

    POPCORN!
    It's a rage in China.
    He sold popcorn machines like we see in our theaters to China and all
    the goodies that go with it.

    Propaganda in China.
    BEIJING — The house lights dimmed, and moviegoers in a Beijing cinema settled in with their popcorn for some of Hollywood’s finest escapist entertainment.

    But first they got a dose of Communist Party propaganda, courtesy ofChina’s film authorities: a short video message promoting “socialist core values.”

    Chinese cinemas have been ordered to play one of four government-issued videos before every movie screening.

    I love being an American.:D
     
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  12. Seryoga

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    My God ! England and France signed a pact with Hitler and Prime Minister of England spoke "Hitler is a peacemaker." After that, Stalin did the same because Russia was left alone. The United States almost all of the war in practice worked "do not attack Hitler".

    In real life, the Russians killed 80% of the German soldiers, 90% of all Nazi soldiers (9 current states were also Nazi and participated in the war) , liberated ALL death camps and defeated Hitler.

    In Hollywood history, it looks like this "Di Caprio and Tom Henks freed the death camps and Day D (with all respect for all heroes) was the greatest battle of the war. It was not the greatest battle of the war, it was not the greatest battle of 1944 and it was not the greatest battle of that Month 1944

    As far as I know most Americans are English-German-Irish-Spanish descent. Why did they emigrate? Because of communism? Most of the Yugoslavs emigrated after the fall of communism, not during communism. If you can ask anyone about the "Golden Age of the 80s"

    China is a communist state with a model of social capitalism (a variation of socialism) and by 2020 will become the world's first economy.

    Without China, the US would have been broken because China bought a huge portion of the US debt

    P. S. I do not defend communism, I do not like communism but fairy tales about 60 million victims of Communism in China are laughable.

    P.P.S Logical question. Before the Communist came to power, China was colony (the worst regime in human history). The first population census in China was made in 1953
    No one in the world knows how much Chinese were before the communists, and you know that there are 60 million missing and who killed them.
     
  13. jeager

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    Golly whiz ol' man I just know what I read.
    Same as you.
    And same as most people.

    'Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

    What time periods specifically? Stalin was in power from 1924 till his death in 1953. Through forced agricultural reforms, military purges, control and subjugation of non-Russians in the Soviet Union, extermination of all political and ideological rivals, gulags of Siberia and WW2 sacrifices, you could say that between 25-40 million people died under Stalin's rule. No exact number is available.

    http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule

    I don't know.
    If these sources are reliable then 25-40 million died under Stalin's rule.
    No one knows that wasn't there and even at that they'd only know what
    affected them on a personal level.

    Stalin was quite likely insane and probably killed by those closest to him.
    Most likely poisoned.
    You wouldn't notice a modern Stalin. He excelled at seeming uninteresting. Most people think of insane people as being obvious. Stalin's are scarier because it's hard to tell who they are until it's too late.

    So definitely insane but not the common perception of insanity.

    http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule


    You wouldn't notice a modern Stalin. He excelled at seeming uninteresting. Most people think of insane people as being obvious. Stalin's are scarier because it's hard to tell who they are until it's too late.

    So definitely insane but not the common perception of insanity.

    .http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule


    If you disagree then please post sources.

    I rarely make assertions without posting sources.

    Opinions are like the anal orifice and some are prone to display such.
    Just sayin'.:D
     
  14. Ystranc

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    What exactly has Chamberlain's appeasement policy got to do with communism? It stemmed from the fact that Britain had just passed through the Great War and the populace have no wish for another war. Chamberlain's worthless little scrap of paper was initially greeted with a huge sense of relief.
    Stalin's treaty with Hitler was subtly different in that it was a non aggression pact designed to give Hitler freedom to attack Poland and fight a war in Europe without fear of Russia opening a second front. Stalin respected this treaty until it was broken by Hitler.
    Seryoga, you seem to be confusing this issue. It was a simple question"what do you think about communism?"
     
  15. Seryoga

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    Come on man, independet is UK newspaper-Tabloid is not a source. In these newspapers you can read "a cow hatched a calf with three heads that speaks French". It's not a source.
    I only know it's the first population census in China was made in 1953.
    The logical question is how does one know how much Chinese was before, how much it is missing, and who killed them ?
    Forum also not the source (even it says "including WW2 what I wrote).
    The communists in Russia and China came to power when Russia and China were half of the feudal state for 50 years far from the largest powers (UK, France, Germany). When Stalin died, the USSR sent a man into space. In the meantime, USSR became a world power, UK lost 90% of the territory, Germany divided and France remained without 50% of the territory (Indochina, Africa).
    In the meantime, the USSR won the greatest war in the history of mankind


    " What exactly has Chamberlain's appeasement policy got to do with communism? It stemmed from the fact that Britain had just passed through the Great War and the populace have no wish for another war. Chamberlain's worthless little scrap of paper was initially greeted with a huge sense of relief."


    The question was "Stalin signed a non-aggression agreement with Hitler." No, Stalin ask for a coalition to fight Hitler, the UK prime minister signed an agreement with Hitler, and only after that did Stalin do the same.

    The UK went through a great war just as it did Russia, but the UK did not have a major civil war after that

    And one more thing. Russia did not attack Poland (the army entered after Poland's capitulation) and Russia did not divide Poland. About 15 years earlier, Poland used a civil war in Russia, occupied territories, and 15 years later the territories were returned. These territories never belonged to Poland, today they do not belong to Poland and there are no
    Poles. For example, the civil war in U.S. and Mexico occupies California. For 15 years, the US returned California and Hollywood teach me "US attacked Mexico and dividecountry." Are you kidding?
     
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  16. Ystranc

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    You're also confusing the Independent with the Daily Mail....I think I remember that headline about the cow
     
  17. Seryoga

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    It's possible, but it's certainly a newspaper - a tabloid where the main themes are how much Gazza drank, to whom Chelsea captain steel woman...
     
  18. Ystranc

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    You're incorrect when you say Stalin did not sign a nonaggression pact with Hitler and the question at the top of the post was "what do you think of communism?"
    Please don't try to correct me on either point, they're both irrefutable.
     
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  19. Seryoga

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    I did not say that Stalin did not sign non-aggression pact, but I said that the first man of UK colonialist regime did it earlier and left Russia alone against Hitler. It's a context
    That was the answer to this:
    "Recall Russia and Hitler's Germany signed a non aggression pact.
    Hitler violated that."
    We are talking about communism .
     
  20. jeager

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    Screw the history lessons I want to know about "a cow hatched a calf with three heads that speaks French".
    THAT is a story!
    But a question?
    Which head speaks French?
    Man are we ever going off topic!:confused:

    I really have forgotten what we are surviving on this thread?:(
     
  21. Seryoga

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    You are absolutely right.

    It's a replica from my favorite British series "Only fools and horses" when Del Boy describing Pekam daily news
     
  22. jeager

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    I don't know that show.
     
  23. Seryoga

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    Legendary show from 80's, 90's.
    And to conclude, "Communism is shit" and I mean it seriously.
    Here I am writing about communism and at the same time I dream of capital and profits. Btw, my book on amazon tonight enter in top 50 military-war books next to lone survivor book :)
     
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  24. jeager

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    O.K. What book?
    Title? Link to Amazon?
     
  25. Seryoga

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  26. jeager

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    I am a Cossack: Spearhead in Putin's hands.

    O.K. I'm in!

    By the way.
    My great uncle was a Cossack and killed in WWI.
    Calvary didn't last long in the face of machine guns.
    Grandfather, great uncles brother, (Russian of course) came here just
    prior to the out break of WWI.
    Gramps married a Pole and my mother grew up speaking a mix of both
    languages.

    She could speak little English when she started school and had a hard time
    of it.
    Mother could also speak a good bit of Romani.
    We arrested a bunch of gypsies for theft (what else), women of course.
    They spoke no English or at least acted like they couldn't.
    I went back into the jail to interview them and one was pregnant and flopped
    out a tit and squirted mother's milk on me.
    That was a curse I was told.
    My mother came in to translate for them in court.
    Of course they posted bond and disappeared.
    Mother made $300 bucks for a half hour in court. :>)
     
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  27. Old Geezer

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    Communism is the antithesis of Liberty.
    Communism opposes the Will of God.
    Communism centralizes power, thus guaranties corruption and the abuse of power.
    Communism must be dug-out and annihilated like the malignant cancer it is.
     
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  28. sakakimakio

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    I'm quite interested when doing some reading on "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Max published on 1948, it stated itself that socialism, ruled by the authorities and not the individual. What intriguing me was, do they intend to create some sort of New World Order?
     
  29. jeager

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    Published in 1848.
    A 100 year typo. :>)
    Yes indeed it was intended to be "some sort of New World Order".
     
  30. lonewolf

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    isn't communism where the state owns everything and the population is kept poor?
     
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    That is a brief and pretty accurate description.
    The population is kept poor and dependent upon the state.
    It seems a lot like the ancient feudal states where the privileged kept surfs
    like slaves.
    Surfs did the labor, the privileged got the lions share of the food and goods.
    I think that ended in the 12th century.
     
  32. lonewolf

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    no I think it ended after WW1 when the big estates didn't have anyone to do the work because the employees were all killed .
     
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  33. jeager

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    ohhhhhhhhhh, o.k. Thanks.
    ( I get it.)
     
  34. Seryoga

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    Ordinary people compare quality of life in communism and now ,30 years after the fall of the Communists.
    People who lived in communism and live now

    Apart from the younger group in Croatia and Kosovo, most of the other younger people believe life for their parents was better than their lives are today.
    They also feel that there were better employment opportunities in the past than today.

    http://www.balkaninsight.com/rs/article/life-would-be-better-in-former-yugoslavia

    The source is George Soros' organization, an extreme globalist

    People who lived in both systems know better than CNN, CBS, BBC






     
  35. jeager

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    We are a Capitalist society.
    You EARN things you want.
    Sadly we are becoming socialists.
    "I want everything now and won't work for it" types.
    gimme people.
    gimmie mo' I want's mo'!
    Entitlement people.
     
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  36. jeager

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    I was just reflecting about my work life.
    Working two and three jobs, scrimping to make ends meet.
    Most people today are clueless.
    College at age 48, two degrees when 53.
    Disabled cop, retired from G.M. also.
    Wow!
     
  37. GS AutoTech

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    Solid NO to communism. Equality is a lie spread by the socialist mindset achieved only by taking from those who have & giving to those who have not until everyone has nothing... except the government itself that controls everything.
     
  38. Scarlet

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    I don't agree in communism. Common people suffer from it and there is no freedom at all. Good thing I don't live in a communist country. I feel thankful that my country uphold democracy.
     
  39. Scarlet

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    I don't agree in communism. Common people suffer from it and there is no freedom at all. Good thing I don't live in a communist country. I feel thankful that my country uphold democracy.
     
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