What Do You Think About Communism

Though I am not a Communist and no one is a Communist in my family, Communism is deep rooted in my home country Nepal. Communists raged a deadly war for 10 years, thousands people died of armed communist insurgency. What's your view on Communism?

 

I think it's an extremely retrograde system of government and that it does not take any other country (if it ever did ) to a promising and egalitarian path. Some friends say that I am very radical at this point, but I honestly can not see a communist country being totally successful.

I'm totally against it!

 

I am not a Communist and I have never experienced that type of regime. Many people say it a very bad system because it restricts and suppresses its citizens. There seems to be some variation in the types of communism that may be practiced. I have to admit that in spite of the negatives that surrounded the Castro regime in Cuba there were some profound positives. Castro was not ever accused of living the high life whilst his people suffered, the citizens were well educated and the education was mostly free. The country had some of the best doctors in the world. It also seemed that everyone was provided with housing.

 

This:
" Communists raged a deadly war for 10 years, thousands people died of armed communist insurgency."

Any questions?

Let Russia be an example for the rest of the world.

Communism failed completely.

Russian has elections.
They vote.
They elected Putin.
A hard line K.G.B. officer and former Communist.
Go figger?

 

Communism had a lot of good ideas but they were executed badly. I'm all for equality but that was executed so poorly it's laughable. People in my country used to be equally extremely poor but the people at the top were extremely wealthy, especially the president. Equality should apply to the government as well.

 

People in my country

And that country is??????????????????????

 

Communism under Mao in China.
"One of unparalleled devastation in which at least 45 million, and possibly as many as 60 million, men, women and children died in less than five years, and the desperate resorted to cannibalism."

And no one in the higher levels of gov't even knew it and if they did
the didn't care.
No one wanted to indicate Mao caused a famine of unparalleled proportions.
How's that Communism workin' out for ya?

Communism failed in Russian and China.
With terrible human suffering.

Of course even with 45 million dead in 5 years China would hardly notice.

Like Russia, China has people to waste.
Disposable people.

 

Are you serious? Come on, do not be ridiculous. Russia in 30 years participated in, ww1, civil war, Finnish war and ww2 (of course, Russia is convincingly most deserving for victory over Nazism ) and every Russian man who died on the opposite side was declared a victim of communism in your propaganda.
The same thing with China (Terrible civil war).

Make an experiment. Many people from ex Yugoslavia live in the United States and if you can ask any of them whether it is true that the period of the 1980s is called the Golden Age . They will surprise you with the answer about "dark communism"

 

I'm not a fan of communism or socialism for the simple reason, it doesn't work. Even China now operates a system of communism-light, iron political control while embracing the economic benefits of capitalism.

 

Recall Russia and Hitler's Germany signed a non aggression pact.
Hitler violated that.
Russia and Hitler's Germany weren't allies but agreed not to fight one
another.

Make an experiment. Many people from ex Yugoslavia live in the United States and if you can ask any of them whether it is true that the period of the 1980s is called the Golden Age . They will surprise you with the answer about "dark communism"

So if those that immigrated to the U.S. from Yugoslavia like "dark communism"
why, pray tell, did they settle in the U.S.
Inquiring minds don'cha'know.

If you don't live in a Communist country and are so enamored with Communism
why don't you relocate to a Communist country?????
One wonders why Russia booted Communism?
Why it failed China so miserably?

While China’s government may be officially communist, the Chinese people express widespread support for capitalism. Roughly three-quarters of the Chinese (76%) agree that most people are better off in a free market economy. And since 2002, the Chinese have consistently been one of the strongest proponents of capitalism compared with other publics around the world, even more so than Americans and Western Europeans.

Darn! Whad da ya know 'bout that!

Without Walmart China might well go broke.

 

Now that was a true statement.
embracing the economic benefits of capitalism

Absolutely.

I want to invest in the first Bic razor export to China business.
I'd make a fortune.
There's a lot of chins in China!

Bawwwwwwwwwwwww-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

I really crack me up!

Oh! I know one fellow slightly that made millions exporting to China in ...............................
Ready????????????????

POPCORN!
It's a rage in China.
He sold popcorn machines like we see in our theaters to China and all
the goodies that go with it.

Propaganda in China.
BEIJING — The house lights dimmed, and moviegoers in a Beijing cinema settled in with their popcorn for some of Hollywood’s finest escapist entertainment.

But first they got a dose of Communist Party propaganda, courtesy ofChina’s film authorities: a short video message promoting “socialist core values.”

Chinese cinemas have been ordered to play one of four government-issued videos before every movie screening.

I love being an American.

 

My God ! England and France signed a pact with Hitler and Prime Minister of England spoke "Hitler is a peacemaker." After that, Stalin did the same because Russia was left alone. The United States almost all of the war in practice worked "do not attack Hitler".

In real life, the Russians killed 80% of the German soldiers, 90% of all Nazi soldiers (9 current states were also Nazi and participated in the war) , liberated ALL death camps and defeated Hitler.

In Hollywood history, it looks like this "Di Caprio and Tom Henks freed the death camps and Day D (with all respect for all heroes) was the greatest battle of the war. It was not the greatest battle of the war, it was not the greatest battle of 1944 and it was not the greatest battle of that Month 1944

As far as I know most Americans are English-German-Irish-Spanish descent. Why did they emigrate? Because of communism? Most of the Yugoslavs emigrated after the fall of communism, not during communism. If you can ask anyone about the "Golden Age of the 80s"

China is a communist state with a model of social capitalism (a variation of socialism) and by 2020 will become the world's first economy.

Without China, the US would have been broken because China bought a huge portion of the US debt

P. S. I do not defend communism, I do not like communism but fairy tales about 60 million victims of Communism in China are laughable.

P.P.S Logical question. Before the Communist came to power, China was colony (the worst regime in human history). The first population census in China was made in 1953
No one in the world knows how much Chinese were before the communists, and you know that there are 60 million missing and who killed them.

 

Golly whiz ol' man I just know what I read.
Same as you.
And same as most people.

'Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

What time periods specifically? Stalin was in power from 1924 till his death in 1953. Through forced agricultural reforms, military purges, control and subjugation of non-Russians in the Soviet Union, extermination of all political and ideological rivals, gulags of Siberia and WW2 sacrifices, you could say that between 25-40 million people died under Stalin's rule. No exact number is available.

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule

I don't know.
If these sources are reliable then 25-40 million died under Stalin's rule.
No one knows that wasn't there and even at that they'd only know what
affected them on a personal level.

Stalin was quite likely insane and probably killed by those closest to him.
Most likely poisoned.
You wouldn't notice a modern Stalin. He excelled at seeming uninteresting. Most people think of insane people as being obvious. Stalin's are scarier because it's hard to tell who they are until it's too late.

So definitely insane but not the common perception of insanity.

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule

You wouldn't notice a modern Stalin. He excelled at seeming uninteresting. Most people think of insane people as being obvious. Stalin's are scarier because it's hard to tell who they are until it's too late.

So definitely insane but not the common perception of insanity.

.http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_during_Stalins_rule


If you disagree then please post sources.

I rarely make assertions without posting sources.

Opinions are like the anal orifice and some are prone to display such.
Just sayin'.

 

What exactly has Chamberlain's appeasement policy got to do with communism? It stemmed from the fact that Britain had just passed through the Great War and the populace have no wish for another war. Chamberlain's worthless little scrap of paper was initially greeted with a huge sense of relief.
Stalin's treaty with Hitler was subtly different in that it was a non aggression pact designed to give Hitler freedom to attack Poland and fight a war in Europe without fear of Russia opening a second front. Stalin respected this treaty until it was broken by Hitler.
Seryoga, you seem to be confusing this issue. It was a simple question"what do you think about communism?"

 

Come on man, independet is UK newspaper-Tabloid is not a source. In these newspapers you can read "a cow hatched a calf with three heads that speaks French". It's not a source.
I only know it's the first population census in China was made in 1953.
The logical question is how does one know how much Chinese was before, how much it is missing, and who killed them ?
Forum also not the source (even it says "including WW2 what I wrote).
The communists in Russia and China came to power when Russia and China were half of the feudal state for 50 years far from the largest powers (UK, France, Germany). When Stalin died, the USSR sent a man into space. In the meantime, USSR became a world power, UK lost 90% of the territory, Germany divided and France remained without 50% of the territory (Indochina, Africa).
In the meantime, the USSR won the greatest war in the history of mankind


" What exactly has Chamberlain's appeasement policy got to do with communism? It stemmed from the fact that Britain had just passed through the Great War and the populace have no wish for another war. Chamberlain's worthless little scrap of paper was initially greeted with a huge sense of relief."


The question was "Stalin signed a non-aggression agreement with Hitler." No, Stalin ask for a coalition to fight Hitler, the UK prime minister signed an agreement with Hitler, and only after that did Stalin do the same.

The UK went through a great war just as it did Russia, but the UK did not have a major civil war after that

And one more thing. Russia did not attack Poland (the army entered after Poland's capitulation) and Russia did not divide Poland. About 15 years earlier, Poland used a civil war in Russia, occupied territories, and 15 years later the territories were returned. These territories never belonged to Poland, today they do not belong to Poland and there are no
Poles. For example, the civil war in U.S. and Mexico occupies California. For 15 years, the US returned California and Hollywood teach me "US attacked Mexico and dividecountry." Are you kidding?

 

You're also confusing the Independent with the Daily Mail....I think I remember that headline about the cow

 

It's possible, but it's certainly a newspaper - a tabloid where the main themes are how much Gazza drank, to whom Chelsea captain steel woman...

 

You're incorrect when you say Stalin did not sign a nonaggression pact with Hitler and the question at the top of the post was "what do you think of communism?"
Please don't try to correct me on either point, they're both irrefutable.

 

I did not say that Stalin did not sign non-aggression pact, but I said that the first man of UK colonialist regime did it earlier and left Russia alone against Hitler. It's a context
That was the answer to this:
"Recall Russia and Hitler's Germany signed a non aggression pact.
Hitler violated that."
We are talking about communism .

 

Screw the history lessons I want to know about "a cow hatched a calf with three heads that speaks French".
THAT is a story!
But a question?
Which head speaks French?
Man are we ever going off topic!

I really have forgotten what we are surviving on this thread?

 

You are absolutely right.

It's a replica from my favorite British series "Only fools and horses" when Del Boy describing Pekam daily news

 

I don't know that show.

 

Legendary show from 80's, 90's.
And to conclude, "Communism is shit" and I mean it seriously.
Here I am writing about communism and at the same time I dream of capital and profits. Btw, my book on amazon tonight enter in top 50 military-war books next to lone survivor book

 

O.K. What book?
Title? Link to Amazon?

 

https://www.amazon.com/Cossack-Spea...qid=1499740424&sr=1-1&keywords=i+am+a+cossack

 

I am a Cossack: Spearhead in Putin's hands.

O.K. I'm in!

By the way.
My great uncle was a Cossack and killed in WWI.
Calvary didn't last long in the face of machine guns.
Grandfather, great uncles brother, (Russian of course) came here just
prior to the out break of WWI.
Gramps married a Pole and my mother grew up speaking a mix of both
languages.
She could speak little English when she started school and had a hard time
of it.
Mother could also speak a good bit of Romani.
We arrested a bunch of gypsies for theft (what else), women of course.
They spoke no English or at least acted like they couldn't.
I went back into the jail to interview them and one was pregnant and flopped
out a tit and squirted mother's milk on me.
That was a curse I was told.
My mother came in to translate for them in court.
Of course they posted bond and disappeared.
Mother made $300 bucks for a half hour in court. :>)

 

Communism is the antithesis of Liberty.
Communism opposes the Will of God.
Communism centralizes power, thus guaranties corruption and the abuse of power.
Communism must be dug-out and annihilated like the malignant cancer it is.

 

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I'm quite interested when doing some reading on "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Max published on 1948, it stated itself that socialism, ruled by the authorities and not the individual. What intriguing me was, do they intend to create some sort of New World Order?

 

Published in 1848.
A 100 year typo. :>)
Yes indeed it was intended to be "some sort of New World Order".

 

That is a brief and pretty accurate description.
The population is kept poor and dependent upon the state.
It seems a lot like the ancient feudal states where the privileged kept surfs
like slaves.
Surfs did the labor, the privileged got the lions share of the food and goods.
I think that ended in the 12th century.

 

ohhhhhhhhhh, o.k. Thanks.
( I get it.)

 

Ordinary people compare quality of life in communism and now ,30 years after the fall of the Communists.
People who lived in communism and live now

Apart from the younger group in Croatia and Kosovo, most of the other younger people believe life for their parents was better than their lives are today.
They also feel that there were better employment opportunities in the past than today.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/rs/article/life-would-be-better-in-former-yugoslavia

The source is George Soros' organization, an extreme globalist

People who lived in both systems know better than CNN, CBS, BBC

 

We are a Capitalist society.
You EARN things you want.
Sadly we are becoming socialists.
"I want everything now and won't work for it" types.
gimme people.
gimmie mo' I want's mo'!
Entitlement people.

 

I was just reflecting about my work life.
Working two and three jobs, scrimping to make ends meet.
Most people today are clueless.
College at age 48, two degrees when 53.
Disabled cop, retired from G.M. also.
Wow!

 

Solid NO to communism. Equality is a lie spread by the socialist mindset achieved only by taking from those who have & giving to those who have not until everyone has nothing... except the government itself that controls everything.

 

I don't agree in communism. Common people suffer from it and there is no freedom at all. Good thing I don't live in a communist country. I feel thankful that my country uphold democracy.

 

I don't agree in communism. Common people suffer from it and there is no freedom at all. Good thing I don't live in a communist country. I feel thankful that my country uphold democracy.

 

"'We're Breaking Her, Keep Going': ACLU Strategist Issues Chilling Tweet Against Sinema"

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/01/...ategist-issues-chilling-tweet-against-sinema/

"While President Joe Biden has portrayed anyone supporting the filibuster as a virtual confederate sympathizer and Bull Connor wannabe, the attacks did not sway senators like Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz. who defiantly went to the floor to deliver a speech calling for the end of the politics of division. She, and her colleague Sen. Joe Machin, D-W.V., stood firm in support of the filibuster. The response from the commentators on the left was pure unadulterated rage. Many like MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell cruelly mocked her for appearing emotional. However, one of most chilling attacks came from a reported staff member at the ACLU, Sarah Michelsen, who encouraged people to keep up the pressure to 'break' Sinema. The senator has been continually harassed by activists, who even followed her into a bathroom to berate her.

"Michelsen, a former state director for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, is a 'senior strategist' at the ACLU. Like many, Michelsen seemed thrilled that Sinema seemed emotional in her speech and encouraged activists to 'keep going' with the attacks because they are 'breaking her.'

"Michelsen seemed to be following the lead of President Biden, who was widely criticized for his Atlanta speech declaring that anyone supporting the filibuster was attacking democracy and supporting autocracy. He continued the attacks yesterday on the Hill despite the fact that he was clearly not intimidating either senator into changing their positions.

"It is not clear what Michelsen did or does at the ACLU. Her Twitter account was taken private after her attack on Sinema. The account calls for defunding police and 'chaos.' (Sinema has opposed the defund police movement)."
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"For the 1st Time, the ACLU Argues the Constitution’s Free Speech Clause Is Too Broad"

https://www.independentsentinel.com...-speech-clause-is-too-broad-for-the-1st-time/

"The origins of the American Civil Liberties Union arose out of Soviet-style Communism. We are not talking about the idealistic liberals of fairy tales, but rather the bloody seditionists and revolutionary terrorists of hard historical reality.

"ACLU founder Roger Baldwin was just such a bloody radical, catching the eye of the FBI when they cared about real insurrectionists. Baldwin was quoted in a 1924 report as having said: 'The right to advocate a violent revolution, assassination, and proletarian Red guard, are all clearly within the scope of free speech …'

"The ACLU founder traveled to Stalin’s Russia in 1927 and wrote a book titled 'Liberty Under The Soviets' the following year. The book defended Lenin’s and Stalin’s repression of dissent because they 'are weapons in the transition to socialism.'

"It’s no surprise, however, to see the ACLU fall back to its hardcore communist roots as they fight hard against liberty. As they said recently, they are now activists.

"Communists like those in the ACLU, who are working to destroy the Republic, love free speech while they are trying to make inroads, but once entrenched, they no longer want it. They prefer censorship of opponents. Communism is a one-party system which is what Democrats now want. It’s the reason they are flooding the country with future Democrats. They don’t even care that the people coming include criminals, transnational gangs, and terrorists."
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I am not a Communist nor am i a capitalist. let me explain .
I do not approve of the riches people paying less tax than the regular people.
I do not approve of the riches people having access to the Politian's that the regular people do not have . in other words money should not matter on how you are treated by the government,
but clearly it does. this is the dark side of capitalism .

Communism is just as bad if not worse look at Stalin and Mao si ton . the two killed of very many million of there own people .
Some says that Canada is socialistic and that is true, For me it is about the best of both of systems .

 

"Good ol' boy capitalism" isn't capitalism.

In today's world, the anti-trust statues which have been on the books for over 100 years are NOT being enforced. Standard Oil is due an apology. The bloated oligarchs who use the monies out of their flagrantly monopolistic businesses to purchase the mainstream media and Congress and the Executive branches of government should have their spines broken. Their monopolies should also be broken-up.

The USA is no longer capitalist, nor is it the "Land of the Free". This is why the real possibility of a second civil war is becoming more likely by the day.

USSA vs USA ... tick, tick, tick, .........
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I did here a very good quote the other day,
it said no one with a full belly goes to communism.
that sort of explains it all .

 

We daily see the physically and egotistically full-bellied head towards communism.

It is an adolescent thing. It is the very manifestation of the adolescent, the Peter Pan Syndrome meme of, "Wouldn't it be nice if ...".

Che Guevara was an attorney. He was from and upper-class family. He was a spoiled little sh##. The press releases had him die in combat. Reality of it all was that he was found in hiding, then shot.

Today's spoiled inferior little twerps wear their Che shirts. What a sick joke!

At the end of his sick life, Che imagined himself a demi-god.

The core of communism is envy. The worthless want that which the industrious have earned. The base do not wish to work 18-hr days, nor will they take the necessary risks to improve their existence.

The capitalists who wish to form monopolies and prey upon the weak are neither capitalists nor respectful of their duties before their Creator.

The vicissitudes of human existence lie mainly at the feet of the stupid and the would-be lords.

Read Gulliver's Travels. It is inspired raw cynicism wrought of rare accuracy of observation of the fallen nature of the human species. Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel was also an example of dark inspiration. Truth generates laughter and nausea.
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Communism is an ideology thats never worked in reality with all 'communist' states becoming right wing states in effect. As a doctrine its failed in every country it set up in.

 

A fitting topic as the agenda 31 crowd are making their big offensive push around the globe , to install communism using the lab created bat virus as their catalyst . To their glee , the plan seems to be working as sheeple submit to their demands to put their bodies on the agenda 31 alter . --- Simultaneously , riots and lawlessness that is being orchestrated by the agenda 31 crowd is evident around the globe .--- Simultaneously , war with Russia and a possible world war 3 is here as we sit on the precipice of a possible Nuke slinging exchange to determine whose government ideology we will be ruled under . In the case of the United States this is to determine whether we live under the deranged leaders that have taken over our government at present or will slide under the authority dictated by Russia , and frankly as for me , I am not sure which is the more desirable outcome . --- Whomever wins and rises to rule , my self sufficient preparations will allow me to simply hunker down and let the world around me to descend further into the quagmire . --- Some might want to draw up the projected nuke target map for their country and take into account prevalent winds carrying radioactive dust . Of course even if you survive the blast and radioactive dust cloud , you can expect the electrical grid to be non-existent for your remaining lifetime . --- My little free country after communism take over may be able to be measured in acres , as we hold on to our independence and live our society estranged existence .

 

Communism has a distinct fingerprint...if one is aware of the history....the track record...

One of their fingerprints is the "Blame Game."

In this Blame Game...one sees the power of government manufacturing bad guys...to go after with the power of government....and thus increasing government power and control over the herd.

Notice the blame game working in the Obama Administration and now the Biden Administration.?? Same fingerprint going on . I do!! I noticed it..big time..


Along with their "Blame Game" eventually comes something often avoided in the history books while working its way towards more and more socialism...eventually to Communism....state control over everything...and everyone ...or put another way...as GFW Hegel was to teach and preach..

"The State is god!!"



Now...this one index..or thing avoided by history , leadership, and public education is something called "Democide.

Not Genocide...but "Democide." Death by ones own government..Death by Democracy.....not by another government but by one's own government....by logical, reasonable, educated, intelligent, Illuminated men. You know...like The Squad and others.!!!

We see this happening in the French Revolution after which so many revolutions are modeled...the preferred mode..of "Enlightenment." The First Scientific Revolution...as is claimed in many history books...

It is BS people...it is "Democide." Death by one's own government. Don't let them BS you.....

Remember the history of the Enlightened people who formed the Internationale...out of which came Communism!!!

You have to dig for much of this history as well.

Ignorance is not bliss.....Be Warned the Ishmaelites run wild.....learn some real history....not the filtered nonsense of what tries to pass for history today.

And be very careful of the MSM trying to BS you about this history.


My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris

 

Che was a doctor not an attorney, I read his book ,

 

Communism results in the centralization of government. At first this may be of benefit to the people, however some monster person or some monster party always takes-over the now-centralized power structure. The people having been disarmed under socialism then communism, now haven't the means to start a guerrilla war, haven't the means to assassinate the monsters.

"... all 'communist' states becoming right wing ..."

Right Wing in the USA means returning to Constitutional government, which is to say Liberty for the individual states and central federal government's subjugation to the will of the people of the individual states. Right Wing in the USA means the right to bear arms, the right to a fair trial, the right not to have your vote negated by voter fraud.

A dictatorship is NOT right wing. Remember that most Republicans voted against Hillery Clinton due to her felonious personality type and voted for Trump while having to hold their noses to do so. Here in the South, we considered Trump a spoiled city-boy who would likely turn on us. My vote for him was because of his having years of experience dealing with the Mafia. I figured that if he could deal with those scummy people, he'd be prepared for the USSA's deep state government's assaults. Too, Putin being a mob boss, Trump would understand his personality.

Good ol'boy capitalism is NOT capitalism. High-tech oligarchs have the Democrats in their pockets. True of many international monied control-freaks such as Soros. Capitalist countries many decades ago adopted anti-trust laws to break up monopolies. I see zero attempts to break-up the behemoth high-tech cancers we now suffer from here in the States.

https://www.planet-today.com/2021/07/evil-eviler-bill-gates-and-george-soros.html

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