What I see could happen:

I think the world will back a lot further than the 1900s, when-not if-civilisation collapses we will revert to a pre industrialised level, which in Britain commenced around the 1750s.

 

I used to watch a programme on tv, it was called "return to the green valley", it was about life in a welsh border valley in the 18th century, and was conducted by 2 archeologists and a historian, all well known in this country.
if you watch that, and it is available on youtube, that will give you an idea of the kind of lifestyle I expect to be living in a "post collapse" world.

 

The world will get bad money will be fire starting paper gold silver gems will have some use for awhile but when gas oil fuel and food get hard to get LOOK OUT !! IT WILL BE A MAD MAX WORLD

 

once the power grid goes down that will be the end for most of the population of this country, they have never lived without electricity and don't know how to, so that will be it for them.

 

depends on the survival rate, which will be quite low.
todays population-especially in the UK- have grown accustomed to being looked after by the state "from cradle to grave", when that help is no longer available they will panic, they are not used to thinking for themselves and that's when societal collapse will occur.
in that situation the best place to be is as far away from other people as we can get.
I have always said, its not necessarily the event that will kill you, but the actions and reactions of others to that event that will.

 

most people in the UK will sit and wait "the govt will save us".

 

previous civilisations have collapsed, people survived because the level of technology was so basic they could obtain what they needed for daily life from their own labours, and await for the society to reassert itself, this is not the case these days, when-not if- our civilisation collapses we need to revert to a simpler way of life to survive, many will not be able or will not want to, and these people will perish, reducing the population to a manageable level.
for instance the UK cannot feed 64 million people self sustainably, the current estimate given the land available is about 25% or approx. 16 million.

 

most UK preppers-the ones that have given long term any serious thought that is, expect the population to crash to about 10% initially following the collapse and rising slowly in the years that follow.

 

so are we but is the govt listening? are they hell.
just as well then that i'm living in a remote rural low population area.

 

That is a very good series lonewolf, good recommendation. But was it not titled Tales from The Green Valley?
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au/search?q=green+valley+farm
Keith.

 

Full series here on my blog: http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au/search?q=green+valley+farm
Keith.

 

your right about the title Keith, my mistake. but you get what I mean.

 

Same in Australia mate.
Keith.

 

I remember reading somewhere that once the power goes out it all goes to hell, because so much of what city folk have now depends on it. Some underground places like train stations are being kept dry by pumps, sewage farms etc. Post cyclone Tracey we had no water & no sewage disposal.
I remember one year when we came back to New England from a Rendezvous in Victoria, & the power was out. We could not get fuel before going home, could not do any shopping, everywhere was closed. Hard to imagine how we became so dependent on electricity for so much stuff, ridiculous!!! Imagine a terrorist strike on power stations, imagine if there were another war!
Keith.

 

well Keith, a few of us "oldies" have had a life before supermarkets(didn't see my very first one until I was 22), mobile phones or the internet, and I believe many people will have trouble in the aftermath of a catastrophe without their constant access to technology.

 

I keep saying to people about when the power grid goes down but they just don't get it. they think it will be there always.

 

We have constantly been told that we will not be able to live off the land because of the number of people all wanting to do the same thing, I don't see it. Most of the townies will have no idea where to start. Many will not make it out of the cities. With so much land over here those that do hunt would be stupid to try & trespass. The numbers would soon get cut down.
Having said that, I do believe that we will have raiders post shtf. Anyone living in the country will need help to protect what they have, depending on the size of the area to be protected.
Keith.

 

I figured you were no chicken, your comments are too knowledgeable, you obviously have some experience. When you have been there & done that yourself, it is pretty easy to pick the ones that are making stuff up as they go along
Yes the world has changed a hell of a lot since the 50s, thank goodness my parents were practicle people & brought me up to look after myself. We raised our three boys the same way, & if it should all hit the fan then they will be back here living with us again.
Keith.

 

I was brought up by WW2 parents, no supermarkets back then, if you didn't have it in the cupboard you went without.

 

I have heard that a lot of people going from grid power to solar have problems because they fail to change their way of thinking. They try to carry on the way they did whilst on the grid, & this is no good on solar unless you have a HUGE solar set-up.
We run very little off our solar power, heating the house is done with a wood fired heater. Water is heated from a water jacket in our wood burning stove.
Keith.

 

most of the population will try to live post event like they did before the event,and they will fail big time. you have to adapt to the new circumstances.

 

I would think that many people these days have gas barbecues or wood fired ones, if not any sensible person in the city would surely have a supply of household candles & a gas camp stove. This would at least get them through short term.
Keith.

 

very few people in the UK have extra supplies, many I have spoken to don't even have a flashlight in the house, they may have a few of those perfumed candles left over from the last "dinner party" but whether they've got some matches or a lighter to light it with is debateable.
many will try to bring BBQ's into the house, many house fires will result, i'm the only one I know that's got a fire extinguisher in the house!!!