Who's Failure Is This Student?

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  1. LastOutlaw

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    So this college aged student doesn't seem to understand that she can not just take someone's property simply because she doesn't agree with what the person is saying. Who's failure is this? Teachers from grade schoo0l up? Parents? Lots of college aged American students today think like this. The don't seem too understand the law or know the difference in right or wrong and obviously don't understand what anyone's right s are in America.

     
  2. Dalewick

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    Parents. It's against regulations for teachers to teach morality (in WV anyway) in the classroom. Then some college professors throw gas on the fire by preaching socialist dogma as facts.

    Lot of the kids never taught morals. Sad.

    The wife retired from teaching 4th grade this years mostly because of the BS and crap they want taught in the schools now. Like teaching sex education in kindergarten. To include LGBT views.

    Dale
     
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  3. Pragmatist

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    My answer to the question: the national electorate.

    The schools have been "taken over" by politicos. Whether in college or high school, the classes and environment are different than they used to be.

    Without discussing or making judgment, if in the 1950s some kid refused to participate in the pledge to the flag, there would be repercussions and et cetra.

    The parents can't help much as individuals because they've been marginalized.
     
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  4. TMT Tactical

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    Parental job. Teach your kids morality and stay involved in what the school is teaching your child. The woman deserved to be arrested. SIASD
     
  5. lonewolf

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    its theft, period.
     
  6. Morgan101

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    I blame the parents. How basic is " Thou shalt not steal ". It doesn't matter what it is, or what you think of it, it is not yours. You don't take it, especially taking it from someone else's hands. Schools have some culpability. They do not teach or reinforce common values.

    Finally. :D Someone who had a consequence to their bad actions.
     
  7. TMT Tactical

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    The mind set of the "Entitled". They are allowed to do whatever to whoever that does not agree with their philosophy. The sad part, she will get a slap on the wrist, community service and have the arrest removed from her record. So what has she learned, don't get caught, nothing more.
     
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  8. Sonofliberty

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    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. The fault is hers and hers alone. She refuses to understand.
     
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  9. Sonofliberty

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    Personally I oppose the pledge of allegiance. The master should not pledge allegiance to the servant.

     
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  10. varuna

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    Bad parenting. I sternly believe that education start at home NOT school
     
  11. GrizzlyetteAdams

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    That video in the OP is a monument to the strange sense of entitlement that is so often seen these days. Sadly, it is endemic in her generation and the generation before that.

    Parents AND schools are responsible for this.

    The "participation trophy" reward system in schools and at home contributed to a whole lot of dysfunction and an unrealistic view of how the real world works. No one is entitled to a damned thing.

    In that spirit, a bit of comic relief that highlights the problems that sprang from the insane "participation trophy" mindset that two generations were exposed to in school:




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  12. Old Geezer

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    Her view is not a failure.

    Her indoctrination is a great success.

    Communism is winning. Their propaganda is taking hold. Mush-minded students parrot the teachings of the damned. Black souls are silencing the very mentioning of the name of God.

    Witness the victories of the enemies of Truth: The family has disintegrated. Sexual perversions are deemed normal. Babies are murdered in the wombs of their mothers. Trophies are handed out to subnormal minds and moral mutants. Students who possess any Faith or who dare speak common sense are excoriated, even beaten in public. University professors vomit out rivers of yellow-green purulence down the throats of once-innocent youth. Torrents of filth spill out of television screens, computer screens, movie screens onto the foundations of homes and churches and the streets where once walked the righteous.

    Isaiah Chapter 10

    1 Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;

    2 To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!

    3 And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?

    4 Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

    5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.

    6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

    7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.

    Let those who curse God be burned. Let them scream as their flesh turns black in hell. Where some may fear The Reckoning of the Lord, let the hearts of God's lions rejoice.
     
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  13. Pragmatist

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    Good morning all,

    A major reason I mentioned that the national electorate is involved is because the "school" has become a "family" / a "parent".

    Breakfast is served at some urban schools. Lunch is historically common, at least post WWII. There are even meal programs during the summer when school is not in session.

    Some "educational" assignments are not known about by the parents.

    In some places the PTA - Parent Teacher Association - has changed to the Parent, Teacher, Student Association.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    I have in-laws who are now retiring out of the education system. They were teachers, then administration. My wife and I over the decades have visited large urban areas of America to visit her relatives.

    PTA meetings; basically it's the white parents, both mother and father who attend; East Indian and Asian parents also attend; black families are rare and it is the mother who shows-up. Approaching 80% of black kids have no father at home.

    Basically, the school systems are being called upon to parent African-American kids, 50% of whom have little home life that provides any real nurturing.

    The social welfare system has provided an excuse to black men to abandon their families. The results have been an ongoing nauseating catastrophe.

    Due to the number of Hispanics entering America, gang membership has been increasing mightily (witness MS-13, Avenue, ...). Hispanic gangs are driving blacks out of neighborhoods that were historically occupied by black families. Compton used to be 95% black; that number is down to only 30%. Hispanics have replaced them. The mainstream media assiduously does NOT cover such realities.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center is a group that provides legal services and more to the black community. Here is what they have to say about Hispanic aggressions:

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...ounting-between-blacks-and-latinos-nationwide

    Examples of attacks:

    https://ktla.com/2019/06/25/2nd-gan...hat-targeted-black-families-in-boyle-heights/

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...california-are-terrorizing-and-killing-blacks

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...Angeles-Murders-Angeles-Forest-512776221.html

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat...indicted-in-killings-of-long-island-teenagers

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/latino-gang-tried-to-drive-all-blacks-from-california-city
     
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  15. Dalewick

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    It's not just urban schools and it's been going for a long time now. Wife is now retired from teaching. Teaching 30 years ago is nothing similar to todays teaching environment. My wife taught in one of the most conservative , rural areas left in the lower 48 states. The older teachers won't teach much of what is being shoved at them (sex education K and up), LGBT incorporating curriculum, Islam, etc. but the younger teachers grew up with it and most will teach it.

    My wife's classes had over 50% of the kids from single parent homes or being raised by the grandparents and parents that were completely stoned coming to school to pick up there kids was common.

    At the junior high and high school levels it gets worse. Teachers were actually reprimanded for disciplining kids found having sex in the hall ways and were told they couldn't contact the parents about it. So much for morality.

    Dale
     
  16. TexDanm

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    liberal
    [ˈlib(ə)rəl]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
    Not all behavior, opinions or ideas deserve to be respected or allowed. Liberals seem to have no borders on what they will accept with one exception. They can't tolerate or allow anyone to disagree with them. To them, that is about the only real sin.

    PS:
    conservative
    [kənˈsərvədiv]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

    Unfortunately, this generally means that if I don't want to do it then you shouldn't be allowed to do it. This is just as problematic as the liberals with no restrictions other than disagreeing with them. If a person's actions are consensual by all involved and all are adult and nobody is harmed by those actions then it is not anyone's business to disallow that action.

    moderate
    [moderate]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. average in amount, intensity, quality, or degree.
    2. anyone that doesn't totally agree with either a liberal or a conservative
    3. someone everyone has a problem with and is universally disliked...
     
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  17. GrizzlyetteAdams

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    :eek: o_O :( :mad: <---- I just now went through the full range...from bewilderment to incredulous to sad, now mad.



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  18. Dalewick

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    I like how he sums it up.

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    Dale
     
  19. Dalewick

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    I fully understand. If you say anything as a family member, they take it out on the one teaching. I understand.

    Dale
     
  20. Old Geezer

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    "Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security."
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

    "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

    Margaret Thatcher

    Viscerally, I wish no economic collapse. This would harm my family, after all. Yet, I do know that the only way to kill the cancer of communism is to allow the dollar to become nothingness, thus denying the communists the funds to pay its goons to do evil. The collapse of the economy of the USSR resulted in the physical collapse of the Berlin wall.

    I wish to look into the eyes of those who have sold their souls into darkness and witness raw terror. If they go violent, we know what to do.

    The ants put back needed items and things with which to barter. The grasshoppers demand the printing of more money to get them through another day.
     
  21. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    It's somewhat different here - based only on my experiences and views.

    In the corridor from metro-Washington, D.C. (I'm excluding Baltimore) to Hampton Roads, the charts show 80%+ unwed black mothers and ~ 50% white unwed mothers. We also have the identifiable component of Islam both immigrant and descendant of immigrant and Islamic converts.

    The welfare state has over 50% of our local public schools' payrolls NON-educators. Many community-outreach positions are here. So, too, the extra-curricular program "instructors".

    Here, the Southern Poverty Law Center ... they have an affiliate in Richmond, Virginia ... is viewed as just another political NGO. A few years ago, SPLC targeted the Family Research Council. There were complaints and SPLC backed off. Now, they do produce some good work products. They prepared a report with gang tattoo symbols that they distributed to law enforcement agencies, but still, it's a politically-oriented group with a specific focus.

    My view of America's public schools is thet they're just part of the cartel system of labor that's publicly funded. I've hired foreign labor overseas and can say, the American ed system is lacking.
     
  22. lonewolf

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    wait until she steals from the wrong person and gets shot for her trouble.
    those on the stealing thread might like to think about that for awhile.
     
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  23. TMT Tactical

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    If she tried to steal from my Greenhouse (post SHTF), then she is going to get shot. The reason behind stealing is irrelevant, if caught. Would I steal if starving, yes. Would I expect to get shot if caught, YES.
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    if starving couldn't someone offer to work in exchange for a meal, instead of stealing, or am I being niave??
     
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  25. Sonofliberty

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    During TEOTWAKI, you might not have the food to spare. You also may not want a stranger scoping out your land/home/preps.
     
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  26. lonewolf

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    not during the crazy period but what if it was later on when things had quietened down?
    they could have skills you don't know about.
    i'm not thinking about me just in a general sense.
     
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    And even with many needed skills - roof repair, periodonics, dentistry, water devining with that special stick, ...

    The person just might be a petri dish of contagious germs.
     
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  28. lonewolf

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    never heard of an isolation ward?
    no never mind. it was just an idea.
    just go ahead and shoot them, whats one more dead body.
     
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  29. Dalewick

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    That is actually in our plan. After the SHTF is over, life has to be more than surviving so we plan on having a securable bunkhouse that new people can be secured in while they work of the days until they are vetted.
    Agriculture needs workers if you don't have machines.

    Dale
     
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  30. lonewolf

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    even if you do, British growers need overseas workers even now as british people don't want to get their hands dirty. they want to be a model or a computer programmer.
     
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    Here where I'm from (USA, West Virginia) people are still used to hard work, at least the ones that would survive. A lot would depend on the TEOTWAWKI event and if there are enough people that some can find us.

    Dale
     
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    As you pointed out, once past the crazy period, then work for food might be viable and maybe actually needed. If a farm is to prosper and produce excess food, then it may require more manpower, than is available to the farming family. Careful vetting and diligence will be required.
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    Great, so now I'm depressed.
     
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    Has Britain really gotten that bad? Does that include Ireland and Scotland? Has all of Europe gone this way?

    Dale
     
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    I cant speak for Europe but I don't think many people enter farming in the UK that don't have a farming background i.e. they come from a farming family, most people don't seem to want to get their hands dirty, try getting an electrician or a plumber these days.
    I think agricultural workers wages are probably minimum wage or just above and you can get better money working in an office.
     
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