World War Three

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  1. lonewolf

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    its when there are actual NATO boots on the ground that it becomes WW3, that must be avoided at all costs.
     
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  2. Brownbear

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    Absolutely, but if Putin changes the name of the "action" by declaring war on Ukraine we become a combatant nation by default, and hence Nato too, having supplied weaponry and military advisors.
     
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  3. lonewolf

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    yeah big IF though, I think there are many in the Kremlin who dont like Putin's handling of the "Special Operation" and would stop any kind of escalation or widening of the conflict.
    there are already murmurs of discontent and that will only get louder.
     
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  4. poltiregist

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    As preppers all we can do is to keep informed , face the situation and prepare . We have no power to run the governments but we do have power over ourselves . " When or if "world war 3 starts self sufficency will be vital . Those that deny and do nothing will become the enemy of the self sufficent . -- During America's Civil war over the slave issue , families sometimes divided with part of the family members fighting for the south and some for the north . This will be the same in the prepper realm as some find their stored food run out and with no way to resupply versus the homesteading prepper . They may be looking at each other down gun barrels . -- What appeared to be crazy " even to me " a few years ago was to get one of my tribe members trained as a airplane piolet and then I purchased an airplane . Sometimes I get an inside message from an invisible force to do something with a strong pull . When I do " I act upon it " . Thus the evacuation airplane came to be . -- That same force told me to leave my original homestead . I heeded the message , locked the door with all the furnishings and walked away and moved to another state and lived in a tent with my family . That turned out to be one of the best things that I have ever done . From that tent living we have prospered immensely , with 3 built houses , another built house under construction one family in a camper and another family planning to bring in another camper to live in .. Later I had my first retreat burnt to the ground . --- What is about to happen , I don't know . But I do know I am well prepared .
     
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  5. lonewolf

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    I keep seeing news headlines like "Putin fighting for his life", apparently if he loses the war in Ukraine he is dead meat, there is no forgiveness in the Kremlin for leaders who lose wars.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    Via Ukraine, the international globalists and liberals in general may be getting their wish to start a global war to silence non-conformity to international rule. In their minds, individualism must be stamped-out and a centralized new world order must be established. Harsh? Yes, but these people are not of sound mind.

    "Russia’s 200-Ton ‘Monster Missile’ RS-28 Sarmat ICBM That Can Fire Hypersonic Weapons Enters Serial Production"

    https://eurasiantimes.com/russias-200-ton-rs-28-sarmat-icbm-hypersonic/

    "The RS-28 Sarmat is a Russian silo-based missile system armed with a heavy liquid-propellant orbital intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads.

    "The General Director of the Makeyev State Missile Center, Vladimir Degtyar, said in an interview recently that the serial production of the latest R-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile has started in Russia.

    "According to Degtyar, the R-28 Sarmat missile will boost the Russian military’s combat capability over the next 40 to 50 years to ensure the nation’s security. He said this ICBM would become the primary means of the nuclear deterrent and a guarantee of preserving peace in the current geopolitical environment.

    "This announcement comes at a time when Russia is allegedly reeling through difficult times due to a shortage of missiles in its arsenal. With Ukraine having retaken some of the territories that Moscow occupied in the initial weeks of the operations, there’s a significant need to hold on to other regions in the south.

    "The first test of Sarmat was conducted in April 2022, and a month later, in May, the former Roscosmos chairman Dmitry Rogozin, a close aide of Russian President Vladimir Putin, stated that around 48 Satan-2 missiles were in “mass production” and would soon go into combat service.

    “'Sarmat' (RS-28) will replace “Voevoda” RS- 20V, the most powerful strategic missile in existence. The development of RS-28 Sarmat was started more than a decade ago, in 2011.

    "The new missile will be able to penetrate enemy missile defense systems and have the ability to travel through both the North and South Poles to deliver multiple reentry vehicles to any location on Earth."
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  7. lonewolf

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    I wonder how much of that is Russian propaganda BS?
     
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  8. lonewolf

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    Seems like there are rumblings in the Kremlin, Putin's days may be coming to an end.
    The Nationalist's support the war but not Putin's handling of it.
    And not just in Russia, "Putin is crazy!", China " thinks Russia is going to fail in Ukraine and emerge from the conflict a minor power".
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    Russia was placed in a position of having to produce more missiles due to their consumption in this attack on Ukraine. The Russian army has been using this many missiles. The missiles in question can deliver conventional explosives or even strategic nukes = "Danger Will Robinson!"

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  10. lonewolf

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    seems I heard the Russians were so short of missiles they had to buy them from Iran and North Korea.
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    " Todays Russian Army is a mess of unmotivated soldiers who are under the command of incompetent officers and controlled by corrupt Generals who would steal everything that moved".
    Russian Political Analyst.
     
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    Report this morning showing photos of a large cemetary in Russia housing hundreds of graves of the murderers, rapists and other criminals killed whilst serving with the Wagner militia in Ukraine and used by Putin and his elite as cannon fodder.
     
  14. Old Geezer

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    "Wagner private militia opens St Petersburg center"

    https://news.yahoo.com/wagner-private-militia-opens-st-175128134.html

    "The 'Wagner Center' is the latest step in Prigozhin's rising public profile in recent weeks, after the businessman spent years operating in the shadows and denying he was behind the private military company, whose contract soldiers are supporting Russia's army in Ukraine.

    "Prigozhin last month publicly confirmed for the first time that he was the founder of Wagner, which has also deployed troops to Syria, Africa and Ukraine. The United States and European Union have sanctioned Prigozhin for his role in the group.
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    Are "Wagner" some sort of mercenary organisation? You know, a bit like Nazi Germany's Ukraine SS......asking for a friend :D:D
     
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  16. lonewolf

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    I think they are like a militia, a private army.
     
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    Ah, okay. Do they support Putin or are they a nationalist organisation that she similar aims for now?

    I'd not hear of them at all until a couple of days ago.
     
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  18. lonewolf

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    I think the leader of Wagner is a crony or supporter of Putin.
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    Putin and his highest military brass are preparing to use theater nuclear weapons if the West makes it impossible to take Eastern Ukraine with conventional weapons. They will not use tactical nukes -- they want to continue to exist. Theater nukes? Looks like its inevitable now.

    The economies & fiat currencies of Western nations are failing and central banks are getting to where they can't print their way out of the falling dominoes effect. What's left? War. The sheeple must have their attention drawn away from inflation and shortages. Plus, they must be sufficiently terrorized into accepting martial law.

    Some balloons are going to be going up. The Davos crowd is obviously willing to risk this and are thus going to continue to push Putin until Putin pushes The Button.

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  20. lonewolf

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    The US claims Russia has lost 188,000 troops and 2,000 tanks since the "special operation" started a year ago.
    Russia MUST not be allowed to win and Ukraine must not be allowed to fail or else it will be worse for the world and the worse for human kind if it does. Western countries must supply Ukraine with what it needs and that includes German Leopard Tanks.
    IF Russia wins it will not stop with just Ukraine.
     
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    That is the risk. Ukraine falls and maybe Poland next. Then Nato is in a war with Russia......
     
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  22. lonewolf

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    Nato is already in a proxy war with Russia by supplying arms to Ukraine, they just dont have any (official) boots on the ground.
    that will come later.
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    Poland's invasion set-off WWII. Poland's invasion today, would set-off WWIII.

    To invade Poland, Russia would have to use nukes; this, given that their conventional forces have been drawn-down and staggeringly so.

    Russia wants the eastern sectors on Ukraine back under its umbrella of power. The majority of people in eastern Ukraine and in Crimea identify as Russian. They not only speak Russian, but they also consider themselves a part of Russia, i.e. not the Ukraine. In 2014 they voted in opposition to the majority of Ukrainians. Putin, et. al., wants to break-off eastern Ukraine and repatriate it into Russia-proper. During the USSR days, eastern Ukraine was industrialized and populated by Russians. These Russian families and Russian industries are still there today.

    However much Russia would like to invade the West, they won't. What they want to do is make Western Europe dependent on them for oil and gas. This, Russia has already accomplished.

    In the following map, in the color blue, one can see who wants to be a part of Russia and who Russia wishes to re-incorporate. Russia sure doesn't want all of Ukraine, what a pain. Managing Poland would be another nightmare. Poland was a nightmare for the USSR -- they'll not repeat that hideous mistake.


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  24. lonewolf

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    Russian FM Sergey Lavrov has said Russia is "almost" in a conventional war with the West.
    how the hell can Russia be "almost" in a war? they are either IN a war or they arent! this Rhetoric is to try and bully the West into stopping supporting Ukraine, and its getting foolish not that it wasnt stupid before, do they think we swallow this rubbish? if they do they are idiots.
     
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    1. TMT Tactical
      Bullies rely on fear and intimidation, just that simple. When somebody stands up to them, they bluster even louder.
       
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Putin is not just some other bully. Putin and/or his cronies in the Kremlin brass are willing to go nuclear -- theater/tactical, but not strategic.

    When Russia sets off a small theater nuke to take-out a Ukranian troop concentration or a motorpool of tanks, a whole lot of folk in the West are going to take notice. Some will panic. Our military will not panic, nor will they nuke Russia in any sort of retaliation.

    "Putin prepares to blast Ukraine with nuke-capable 'Sledgehammer' as Russian army flounders"

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ar-weapons-sledgehammer-zelensky-invasion-ont

    "The 2S4 Tulip self-propelled mortar may be used to fire micro-nuclear weapons capable of destroying an area the size of a football stadium.

    "Vladimir Putin is reportedly planning to deploy the world's largest nuclear-capable mortar weapon as Russia's forces continue to struggle in Ukraine. The The 2S4 Tulip self-propelled mortar, dubbed the 'Sledgehammer', is twice the size of NATO mortars at 240mm.

    "With a range of 12miles, it is capable of destroying large fortifications, military equipment, or troop positions.

    "It can fire nuclear bombs, although it would likely be limited to 'micro-nukes', aimed at destroying an area the size of a football stadium.

    "The powerful weapon has already been used with devastating effect in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria.

    "It can also fire armour piercing, laser-guided, and outlawed cluster munitions, as well as tactical nuclear weapons."
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  26. Old Geezer

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    "Putin Now in a ‘War Against NATO and the West’ in Ukraine, Claims EU Official"

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...o-and-the-west-in-ukraine-claims-eu-official/

    "Russia now believes it is in a 'war against Nato and the West,' a top official at the European Union an official said, while denying that the decision to send tanks to Ukraine represented an escalation from the West.

    "Speaking from Tokyo on a tour of the Asia-Pacific region, secretary general of the European External Action Service, Stefano Sannino said that the move to send tanks to Ukraine was 'game changing' in how Vladimir Putin views the conflict, saying that Moscow has now 'moved from a concept of special operation to a concept now of a war against Nato and the West'.

    "Yet, the Eurocrat denied that this was the intention of Western powers, explaining: 'I think that this latest development in terms of armed supply is just an evolution of the situation and of the way Russia started moving the war into a different stage,' adding that the decision was justified due to Russia’s allegedly 'indiscriminate attacks' against civilian targets in Ukraine.

    "Perhaps undermining the claim from NATO allies that sending in Western tanks does not represent a military attack against Russia, U.S. President Joe Biden, who signed off on sending 31 M1 Abrams tanks to Kyiv (Kiev) this week, said in March of last year that doing so could result in World War III.

    “'The idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews — just understand, don’t kid yourself, no matter what y’all say, that’s called World War III,' Biden said.
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  27. poltiregist

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    Stages people go through in regard to World War 3 -- Denial , Anger , Bargaining , Depression and last Acceptance . Unfortunately for many when they finally reach acceptance , it is too late to formulate a rational plan for survival .
     
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  28. Old Geezer

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    Those are the stages of dealing with death.

    Russia will likely use theater/tactical nukes, not strategic. The West will not go tactical nuclear in response. The latter being due to Western nations not having the tactical arsenals compared to Russia. Russia's tactical nuke count massively dwarfs those of Western nations. Nobody will go strategic in Europe. Ukraine, in the final analysis, isn't worth it. Russia has Western Europe bent over a barrel as things currently stand. The barrel is a barrel of oil. Russia is going to send Western Europe into a deep recession, possibly even a depression. Russia WILL win. The West will just take it due to horrific economic issues. Putin and the Kremlin generals know this. Me, I'm dumbfounded that Putin hasn't used his mini-nukes already. He's currently moving in highly-specialized mortars and missiles to deliver these field-grade mini-nukes (can take out an area the size of a large football stadium). If Ukraine is stupid enough (the government in Ukraine is corrupt to the hilt and their leader is a corrupted actor) to motorpool the tanks they have been given, then such motorpools area perfect target for a field-grade nuke.

    The risk of WWIII is with the coming war with China. That is being seriously considered by the Pentagon as coming up in circa 2025. Me, I think that could happen before 2025. I think that 2024 (an election year for the USSA) would be more likely.

    The war with China is the war I fear. Why? 1) It is VERY possible; 2) It has the absolute highest risk of escalation.

    China could use strategic nukes due to their lack of a substantive nuclear arsenal as opposed to the U.S.. China could be seen as going "Bad News" really quickly because they will have to hit not only our nuclear submarines and aircraft carrier groups, they will also have to consider hitting our silos. Hitting our silos will not only irradiate our wheat, soy bean, and corn-producing states, but will also cause states along the Mississippi River to glow in the dark: Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Western Tennessee, Western Kentucky, maybe into Indiana. Northern Mississippi and Louisiana could also catch some very hot fallout. Hitting our cities would be wasted nukes in the eyes of Chinese military higher-ups -- all they have to do is EMP the U.S. and the cities will self-destruct.

    North Korea being unable to take-out U.S. silos, may go for U.S. urban areas -- especially those in Washington State, Oregon, and California. North Korea would likely start by hitting a carrier group; then, they would go for some U.S. cities ... before getting annihilated themselves. Kim Jon Unhealthy and his dragon-sister will be down in a bunker wherever or out of N.Korea when they give the nuclear go-ahead.
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      Concerning China, one thing I forgot to include (stupid me), was the reality of China invading Taiwan. This horror is absolutely going to happen. Taiwan produces integrated circuits necessary for the U.S. military. The U.S. WILL defend Taiwan, maybe not corrupt Ukraine, but certainly Taiwan. This is way over a 90% possibility in the minds of military gurus. Me personally, I think that it is a 100% possibility / "given" / "gonna happen". AND, it WILL result in war.
       
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  29. lonewolf

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    Russia using Theater nukes rather than ballistic missiles means it will be confined to battle field areas, all this rhetoric about nuking Britain, Germany and the US is just so much BS and such was obvious from the start.
     
  30. Brownbear

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    But it will mean a breach of nuclear protocol that may require massive retaliation. But there is a perspective, we used reduced uranium warheads on some tank shells during the invasion of Iraq.
     
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  31. lonewolf

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    I see Boris is saying that Putin threatened to kill him in a phone call prior to the invasion, Putin said it would only take 1 missile to get the job done, presumably aimed at 10 Downing street.
     
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    Yes, Boris is saying, the problem is I wouldn't believe anything that man says. He invited himself to COP27 and also to meet Zelensky. Who does he think he is? He is now merely a backbencher who is trying the wrest power back from the current PM.
     
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  33. lonewolf

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    I have no respect for Sunak, I think he is a back stabbing hypocrite, Boris is perfectly free to go where he likes even if that is Cop27 and meeting Zelensky, Starmer turned up at Davos for a party political broadcast, thats another one I will never trust.
     
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  34. watcherchris

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    This war in the Ukraine has been going on since 2014....not just in the last couple of years as most folks think.

    Some time about 2012...the people in the eastern parts of the Ukraine voted to go with Russia and that started hostilities within a couple of years. It is the Western Ukrainians who have been attacking these Eastern Ukraine Areas which voted to go with Russia. Put another way....the Ukrainians are declaring war on their own people...a civil war.

    Russia was not heavily involved until the last few years and decided that the mostly Russian people of Eastern Ukraine were not going to be left to the mercy of the Western Ukrainians in this Civil War.

    This is a Civil War....and we ...once again...are on the wrong side of this war.


    I think that someone outside of the Ukraine ....has noticed this conflict, if not initiated and amplified it, as a way to take advantage of that Country and also Russia. At the same time....these Deep State people are taking advantage of the USA to insure/protect their profits and power.....in ways unimaginable to the average American...we are so dumb and distracted.


    Something came to me ...just today.....about what is going on here in America and the average American has not a clue with our television and or movie educations...in nonsense....confetti.....junk thoughts and reasoning..and by design.


    The small arms of the Ukraine are primarily Com Bloc Weapons....Russian design and calibers...calibration.

    For those of you members familiar with these terms...this means....9mm handgun ....7.62 x 39mm ...5.45 x 39mm and 7.62 x 54 R caliber as well.

    Do you members here think that Russia is providing small arms ammunition to the Ukraine for their rifles, handguns, and machine guns?????

    So from where is the Ukraine getting their small arms ammunition?????

    Let that sink in for awhile...



    Oh...dont worry.....the Super Bowl is coming up.....

    You may have to pay 3 times as much for your chicken wings but don't let that interfere....



    Want to know why you cannot find ammo reloading supplies for the civilian market.....primers in particular????

    Why ammunition is getting expensive????



    Did you know this about fish/pet antibiotics??

    Over the Counter Antibiotics will Require Prescription in June 2023 | Panhandle Agriculture (ufl.edu)

    How important are antibiotics to a war effort???

    How much has a car battery gone up in the last 3 to 5 years??? Other car parts...tires et al???


    Buckle up....but dont worry...next month is the Super Bowl!!!!


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
  35. watcherchris

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    I think that America is and has been supplying small arms ammunition to the Ukraine and it has been manufactured here in America.....thus removing these raw materials from the marketplace ...and making them unavailable to Americans in favor of the Ukraine and their Deep State Masters....

    We now pay higher prices for ammunition and reloading materials.


    I also think Putin knows this information....and most Americans do not ...again by design..

    I also think that someone ..again by design.... is willing to sell the very souls of America and Americans to these Deep State Masters who run this country and their private investment in the Ukraine...their private civil war.

    I think that these are the same Deep Staters who were also running a money laundering operation in Kazakhstan until it got shut down....and now the Ukraine is even more important to them

    But that is just me.....I'm just a crazy olde conspiracy theorist...

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
  36. lonewolf

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    it WAS a civil war until Putin invaded.
    it was hardly mentioned on this side of the pond until Russian military equipment started massing on the border then everyone started taking notice, which is what Putin the meglomaniac despot wanted, to be noticed.
     
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  37. watcherchris

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    Pan Slavism...

    here wiki link.....scroll down and look at the flag of Pan Slavism...

    Pan-Slavism - Wikipedia

    Now....here....Russia..scroll down and again look at the flag of Russia.

    Russia - Wikipedia

    Also.....watch this Dan Bongino video...about the Ukraine and what is going on there....

    Bongino reveals why Democrats are 'terrified' of Biden classified docs - YouTube


    Also it is known that this Zelensky fellow is not interested in Democracy and is himself and his government a tyrant....does not tolerate opposition politics.
    It is mostly a show.


    But don't worry....America has a Super Bowl game coming up...
    That should keep America and Americans totallly distracted and unthinking..
    Ishmaelites at work.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  38. TMT Tactical

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    I don't care how bad the Ukrainian government is or was, that was the problem for the Ukrainian people to deal with. When Russia invaded, it became a world problem. Civil war is just that, a conflict between the people of that country. Once another country invades, it is no longer a civil war but a land grab. Russia has never cared about the people, even their own people. Russia wants the land and it's resources, just that simple.
     
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  39. poltiregist

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    ---- Exactly correct . The view from a prepper's perspective is not who the bad guy is but how to confront , prepare and survive . Interesting to see some that think denying and fantasizing will " replace actually preparing " .
     
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  40. Old Geezer

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    Yes.

    And as a matter of fact, Putin's shoe-shine lackies are the ones talking about doing Berlin.

    Ukraine is asking/getting more tanks and other armaments due to their having already burned-through the previous armaments. This past fall the Ukrainian push caused horrific losses for Russia, but at a monster cost to Ukraine, both in loss of Ukrainian lives and all those rockets, stinger missiles, et. al.

    Ukraine will NOT regain the Crimea and also not regain the Russian occupied eastern provinces. That is a total pipe dream. Russia is going to annihilate incoming supplies to Ukraine, tanks especially. Russia will do this even if they have to use battlefield (small/tiny) nukes. Russia can't keep on losing men and equipment, thus we will see god-awful weaponry being used.

    Theater nukes will NOT trigger any sort of mandatory nuclear response from NATO. Will NOT happen. If Russia started rocketting Berlin, sure. But Russia is NOT going to do that, nor will it have to do so. Russia is going to microwave-oven Ukraine to bring this to an end ... with Russia keeping that land which they have succeeded in conquering.
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  41. TexDanm

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    I'm not too worried about a world wide sort of world war. Russia is at this time hard put to wade off into something like that and China has different ideas. Why would they want to attack their biggest and best customer? Their people are experiencing one of the best economies in their history. Walk around in a store and look o the bottom of everything. MOST will have "MADE IN CHINA" on it.

    They are slowly buying us out... and we are willingly assisting them. I remember when it was Japan that was doing this. They have moved up and Gone from the little inexpensive things to cars, trucks and all manner of machinery. I guess that we in the US are just too cheap and wouldn't buy made in America even if it was only a little more expensive.
     
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  42. TMT Tactical

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    As long as the liberals cripple and handcuff American manufacture, then people will continue to be forced to buy China made goods. Companies can setup or import goods from China, all the while China environmentally destroys the world. Chinese companies use force labor and have the worst pollution in the world but our government does nothing to ban these companies or their product. No American company trying to manufacture goods here have a fighting chance. If our government put a tariff on Chinese goods / companies that do not meet our environmental standards, then American companies would kick butt. The problem is not the people it is the government.
     
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  43. watcherchris

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    China is doing something the Japanese figured out years ago.....

    Do not hold American Dollars!!!! Convert your dollars into anything but Paper Dollars. Hold onto anything but paper dollars..buy property which will hold value because dollars will not .

    The people who understand this the least is the American People and our government does not ever want us to know this.

    Our government is deliberately manufacturing inflation......they are deliberately causing the loss in purchasing power of the American Dollar...

    I just posted this for lonewolf the other day and will re post it here for the members ...by the economist ....John Maynard Keynes....

    From ...The Economic Consequences of the Peace....Circa 1919



    Here this link...Inflation- John Maynard Keynes (economicsnetwork.ac.uk)


    Be Warned these Ishmaelites who would put us into Economic Bondage and while we are at it ....Social Bondage and call it Equity....

    It i still bondage...Herding.....running the herd....and that is not liberty and freedom...it is not limited government.

    It is important that we be dumbed down to what is really going on while our government plays us into more stupid by playing good cop/bad cop. Manufacturing bad guys to hide what they are doing ..creating chaos by inflation.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
  44. Old Geezer

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    Currently, China holds too many U.S. dollar-backed securities to want us dead ... yet.

    Last year, China stopped buying U.S. Treasury bonds and began buying tons of gold.

    China wants to suck as much $$blood$$ as it can out of the U.S. before shutting the U.S. down economically, or with nuclear warheads if it comes to that.

    But China inevitably wants America to go dead meat.

    Too, China is building up its nuclear arsenal and multi-stage missile inventory as fast as possible. Currently China is well behind the U.S. and Russia.
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  45. lonewolf

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    it is being said this morning that Putin has now called up half a million conscripts and a "big push" may be coming soon, maybe towards the end of February, of course a lot of those being conscripted will just be "cannon fodder", Putin and his cronies in the Kremlin dont care about casualties just the objectives.
     
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  46. watcherchris

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    Don't kid yourself Lonewolf......some of us know some history....

    Before this Ukraine War gets done....many of the Western Nations will be in the same boat as Russia.....as this war expands out.

    Some of us can see this following the same or similar path as did our American Vietnam involvement.

    As to casualties....I know what happened in WW1 with General Haig...and the Brits going over the top against the Germans..

    The Brits lost so many men in charges going over the top they would say..."There will never be another General Haig."

    It is important to someone that we know so little history.


    Do not think for one minute that it will not happen to us...here in the west..


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
  47. lonewolf

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    anything can happen we all know that, this war in Ukraine can go one of two ways and at the moment its not easy to say which.
    my grandfather served in WW1 BTW. the Devonshire Regiment (of course), wounded twice and mentioned in dispatches.
     
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  48. watcherchris

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    WW1 was a bloody mess...in the trenches ...and for everyone.... the only way to survive was to stay in the trenches ....if you could stand that....keep your head down.

    Most Americans do not know that it got so bad that the French Army went on strike and would not go over the top anymore.

    We know so little history and I think this has been erased from most of the history books...by design.

    The Trenches were a meat grinder .....and I think this is coming back today.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  49. watcherchris

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    This...lonewolf....


    Remember something....

    The Deep State running these wars....also does not care about casualties when it comes to protecting their investments...their profits and power.


    Remember something....I work building Nuclear Aircraft Carriers and also Nuclear Submarines...commercial work too.

    Who taught the Japanese to build Aircraft Carriers and submarines ...in a day and time when so few nations could afford them....along with the planes and weapons to man them. Who taught them this???

    Who taught the Japanese to go from a Brown Water Navy and fleet to a Blue Water Fleet????

    Who knew how to build and man these weapons.....back then????


    Did we arm our next enemy???? Are we still doing this???


    Catching on yet????


    I suspect this fellow ...former Secret Service....Dan Bongino is correct....more than that for which I tend to give him credit.....

    He says......"Follow the Money!!'

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite.
     
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  50. TMT Tactical

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    If the Ukraine war becomes a war of attrition, then the Ukraine is going to lose. Russian war tactics --- I have 1,000 troops and the Ukraine has 100 troops holding a given target. They don't care if they lose 999 soldiers as long as the Ukraine lose all 100. Logistics win wars. Russia has never been afraid to suffer huge casualties, as long as they take their objective.
     
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