Are We At War With China And No One Told Us?????

Are we at war with China and no one told us...

Does someone want us ignorant of what is really happening.??

Is their investment in dumbing us down so as to be distracted and unawares of what is happening??

How much of this country has China bought and owns...steers for their benefit and against America..,,this includes much of our corporate, MSM, and political leadership????

I am beginning to think along these lines and remembering something that happened about a year ago...



How much of our public education have they and the Muslims bought out.??

How much are the Muslims in league with the Chinese???

And now we have this virus....but I am suspecting that this may go back much further than most know...or are desired to know.

Ishmaelites run wild?????


My sometimes rabid, rambling, and runaway thoughts.


Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite.

 

This business in a sense is reaching demonic proportions to some of us today......

Bumping thread...


Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite.

 

Good evening Watcherchris,

We're not in a military war with China but definitely in an economic one - until recently. Xi and Trump rely on back channel meetings to get anything done. The US organizations - especially the US Foreign Service - is a vestige of an earlier era.

A key acid test to judge the relationship is to study Boeing China, Inc. The President of BCI has more access to the political leadership of China than the US Ambassador does.

It's just about impossible to determine how much China holds in the US (or US businesses offshore). The US laws, especially during the Carter regime, were written to hide much. Note that China is the largest creditor of the US. First Lady Hillary Clinton explained this at an AFLCIO meeting.

China's not in league with the Muslim countries - just raw business relationships. Saudi Arabia tried to open a Consulate General in Xinjiang, NW China (large Muslim ppn) and was denied by China.

Our debt problems and all the rest, especially US foreign relations, are mostly DOMESTIC political problems. China's been funding out deficits and uses it as an economic weapon. It wasn't POTUS Trump packaging an emergency $2.2 Trillion pandemic bill with cash infusions to the National Center For the Performing Arts,....... Nancy Pelosi can elaborate.

 

We have been at war with the moslems since America started and the rest of the world for a thousand years before that. In the Marine Hymn you will hear, "to the shores of Tripoli." That war will never end.

We have been at war with China since 1949 when the communists took full control. You don't really think the Korean War, which has never ended, was between America and N. Korea do you?

People choose to ignore what is happening. People believe the MSM because it makes them feel better. Both the moslems and Chinese are playing the long game.

 

China allowing-in gold. They are prepping to raise value of Chinese currency and destroy U.S. dollar position as world's exchange currency.

https://www.nationandstate.com/2021...greenlights-purchases-of-billions-in-bullion/

Reuters reports:

"The People’s Bank of China (PBOC), the nation’s central bank, controls how much gold enters China through a system of quotas given to commercial banks. It usually allows enough metal in to satisfy local demand but sometimes restricts the flow.

"In recent weeks it has given permission for large amounts of bullion to enter, the sources said.

“'We had no quotas for a while. Now we are getting them … the most since 2019,' said a source at one of the banks moving gold into China.

"Around 150 tonnes of gold worth $8.5 billion at current prices is likely to be shipped, four sources said. Two of the sources said the bullion would be shipped in April. Two others said it would reach China over April and May."
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"China 'Ready' To Recognize Taliban If Afghan Government Ousted"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-ready-recognize-taliban-if-afghan-government-ousted

"Late last month the world beheld the unusual footage of Taliban commanders being warmly received by China’s foreign minister Wang Yi in the Chinese city of Tianjin. That trip included the Islamic terror group's co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, in a rare visit widely seen as an attempt of the jihadists to gain 'legitimacy' abroad.

"It appears to have paid off, given that now at a moment the Taliban is scoring victory and victory on the ground they are eyeing the sought after price of Kabul. And now US News and World Report writes that 'China is prepared to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate ruler of Afghanistan if it succeeds in toppling the Western-backed government in Kabul, U.S. News has learned, a prospect that undercuts the Biden administration's remaining source of leverage over the insurgent network as it continues its startling campaign to regain control.'"

 

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...hrow-away-chinese-phones-to-avoid-censorship/

Lithuania has warned its citizens to avoid using smartphones from China over concerns of censorship, saying that Xiaomi phones, in particular, have actual built-in censorship software.

On Tuesday, the Defense Ministry of Lithuania said that Xiaomi phones sold in Europe such as the 1810.HK flagship device has the capability to censor or block internet search results for terms such as “Free Tibet”, “Long live Taiwan independence” or “democracy movement”.

“This is important not only to Lithuania but to all countries which use Xiaomi equipment,” the Defence Ministry’s National Cyber Security Centre said in a report.

Speaking to reporters in Vilnius, deputy defence minister Margiris Abukevicius said per Reuters: “Our recommendation is to not buy new Chinese phones, and to get rid of those already purchased as fast as reasonably possible.”
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The report found that currently at least 449 Chinese terms are censored by Xiaomi system apps, including the default internet browser for the phone. The cybersecurity body noted that the list of banned phrases is updated continuously.

While the censorship capability was supposedly turned off for

 

China is selling fentanyl precursor chemicals to Mexico's drug cartels for the manufacture of fentanyl pills.

China is at war with America. Our brain-dead president and his son have been in bed with the communist Chinese for some time now. Amerika's deep state is in collusion with America's enemies also.

Any time an American buys from China, that person is supporting our enemy. I read labels. Much clothing is now coming from Bangladesh and I have purchased such. I spend the extra money to by American if it is available.

https://mexico724.com/2022/06/23/gone-too-soon-fentanyl-flowing-from-china/

"China remains the primary source of fentanyl, a drug that kills more than 100 people in the U.S. every day. The Drug Enforcement Administration says China remains the primary global source of fentanyl for the world.

"Two techniques are used to deliver the drug to the U.S. It is either shipped to the U.S.directly via international mail or shipped via Mexico. In some cases, Chinese sellers label these deadly drug shipments with Spanish-language advertisements to help clear customs. U.S. lawmakers say the crime syndicates in China operate with the knowledge of the Communist Party.

"Once in Mexico, traffickers take the fentanyl to clandestine labs and try to dilute it, often times with imprecise measurements and equipment. It’s then smuggled across the border into the U.S., where they are already partnered with distribution networks. At the end of the supply chain are money laundering networks, set up to get these deadly drugs into the hands of America’s unsuspecting youth.

“'Fentanyl isn’t being sold in any other country in the world other than the United States and Canada,' Gretchen Peters, executive director of the Alliance to Counter Crime Online, told Fox. 'It’s flooding into these countries and, at first, I thought it was an exaggeration that this was in some way state sponsored. Now, I’m not so sure.'

"China officially banned the production of fentanyl in 2019 under pressure from the Trump administration, pushing the Chinese drug manufacturers into Mexico, which is now a key part of the supply chain.

"The Chinese Embassy pushed back in a statement from its spokesperson.

“'These assertions are highly irresponsible and utterly false,' the spokesperson said. 'Up to now, China has not found any scheduled precursor chemicals trafficked to Mexico or received any notification from the Mexican side about seizing scheduled chemicals originating from China.'

“'Such made-up allegations show zero sense of responsibility towards American fentanyl abuse victims and their families and seriously mislead the Chinese and American people.'”

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"From China to Culiacán: National Guard seizes fentanyl precursor in customs"

https://www.arout.net/from-china-to-culiacan-national-guard-seizes-fentanyl-precursor-in-customs/

"A packet from China whose destiny was Culiacantransported elements for the manufacture of fentanyl but he did not manage to reach his destination because he was secured by elements of the National Guard (GN) in cooperation with the National Customs Agency of Mexico (ANAM).

"10 kilograms of precursor to manufacture fentanyl came from China to Culiacán

"It is a controlled substance, which is used for the manufacture of fentanyl. One of the most common drugs illegally trafficked from Mexico."

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"Record-breaking seizure, 1 million fentanyl pills confiscated by the DEA"

https://leoaffairs.com/record-breaking-seizure-1-million-fentanyl-pills-confiscated-by-the-dea/

"The DEA says the Los Angeles area is a major hub for illegal drugs coming from the southwest border. The drugs are stored in warehouses, storage units, and residential properties.

"The bulk shipments of drugs usually are broken down into smaller quantities and transported to other states or distributed to local dealers. The DEA says the Los Angeles area has many airports, freeways, and bus and train lines that make it easy for shipments to be smuggled to other destinations.

"The fake pills are designed to look like real prescription pills and include stamping that resemble real prescription opioids, such as Adderall, authorities say."

 

"Chinese Company Buys 300 Acres Near American Air Force Base, Lawmakers Voice National Security Concerns"

https://mysurvivalforum.com/threads/are-we-at-war-with-china-and-no-one-told-us.9173/

"The Fufeng Group, which is based out of Shandong, China, has recently purchased the sprawling property in Grand Forks, North Dakota, CNBC reports. The 300-acre plot of land is roughly 20 minutes from the Grand Forks Air Force Base.

"CNBC notes that the base is 'home to some of the nation’s most sensitive military drone technology' and that it also houses a space networking center, which a North Dakota senator called 'the backbone of all U.S. military communication across the globe.'”

 

I think that, perhaps, there is a world "economic war" going on. Maybe that is how future power struggles will be. Something is certainly "not right" with the world.

 

"New military leadership appointments show China is bracing itself for conflict"

https://asianews.network/new-milita...ts-show-china-is-bracing-itself-for-conflict/

"President Xi Jinping bent the unwritten “seven up, eight down” rule for General Zhang Youxia, 72, a veteran of the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War.

"In the clearest sign yet that China is bracing itself for a possible showdown with the United States over Taiwan, an overage People’s Liberation Army (PLA) general with combat experience was re-elected as vice-chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC) on Sunday.

"President Xi Jinping bent the unwritten 'seven up, eight down' rule for General Zhang Youxia, 72, a veteran of the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War and one of a handful of PLA generals with combat experience.

"Gen Zhang, previously the CMC’s second-ranked vice-chairman, was elected first vice-chairman of the commission and retained his seat in the 24-member Politburo following a meeting of the Communist Party elite on Sunday.

"In the clearest sign yet that China is bracing itself for a possible showdown with the United States over Taiwan, an overage People’s Liberation Army (PLA) general with combat experience was re-elected as vice-chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC) on Sunday.

"President Xi Jinping bent the unwritten “seven up, eight down” rule for General Zhang Youxia, 72, a veteran of the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War and one of a handful of PLA generals with combat experience.

"Gen Zhang, previously the CMC’s second-ranked vice-chairman, was elected first vice-chairman of the commission and retained his seat in the 24-member Politburo following a meeting of the Communist Party elite on Sunday.

"The party’s unofficial norm dictates that those aged over 68 are not eligible to stay on in or be further promoted to the Politburo at the start of a new term.

"His election at the first plenum, a meeting of the party’s Central Committee that kicks off a new five-year term the day after the end of a party congress, confirms previous predictions by The Straits Times.

"The CMC is China’s military high command, in charge of over two million active personnel in the PLA. It is chaired by Mr Xi and supported by two vice-chairmen and four members.

"Like Mr Xi, Gen Zhang is a native of Shaanxi province and a 'princeling' – the offspring of China’s political elite. Their fathers were known to be close friends.

"Gen Zhang is the oldest in the new 205-member Central Committee, from which members of the Politburo Standing Committee – the pinnacle of power in China – and the wider Politburo are drawn."
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So, the big question is "what to do if one feels we are in a pseudo war with China?"

If one believe this may be the case then, clearly, stop buying anything made in China. One would not wish to encourage, or enhance, the economy of a hostile power.

All the (quite valid) points raised regarding gold etc could be sorted by the people of a nation that feels under threat from another not contributing to that nation.

 

Absolutely, and our Government has, of course, allowed them to tender for nuclear power station work etc. It is all reversible but would take time.

 

Yes, don't buy from China. All major companies in China are headed by people connected / hold office in the communist Chinese military.

I'm one of those people reading the label of items to see where they were manufactured. I've noted that a lot of clothing these days is made in Bangladesh. I buy clothes at Tractor Supply (yep, they sell heavy duty clothing -- triple stitched) and much of their clothing is made in Bangladesh. I'm a bit biased; had a workmate friend from Bangladesh, so I learned a lot about that place.

In electronics, Taiwan and South Korea offer many items.
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We have been at war with China for a long time. Basically they have won. If you look you will see how much stuff we buy from them. they take that money and return t here by buying land and businesses. This is sort of a good news and bad news thing. The bad is how much influence that they now have on our economy.

The good news is that they can't really afford to do us any great harm because they would then lose their best customer and consumer of their products. They have a HUGE population that they have to keep employed and busy or ELSE. They don't look at the US as much of a threat anymore. On the other hand their relationship with Russia is very chilly.

 

The primary reason China calls Taiwan its own is that Taiwan is superior in its engineering. China is dynamite at copying / reverse-engineering. Their intellectual creativity is that of a toad. They wish Taiwan annihilated to keep up the pretense.

"Made in Japan" Hated that. Maybe after China snuffs Taiwan, we can go with Japan and get back to our own engineering. I know that we can do this because I was there in the electronics industry before we let our engineering be usurped by our competitors. We need to go Teddy Roosevelt on the world. You don't gotta use nukes. You just need the smarts and quite frankly, we have them. Communist Chinese students need to be booted out of our universities. Communism needs to be booted out of our universities. We need to step on the necks of our enemies until we hear that sacred POP!

When a kid, I'd shoot things. Wiggle-wiggle, writhe-writhe. I'd step on its neck until I heard that ending pop. Then the silence.
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by Texdanm....

There is a terrible terrible secret here and one for which both China and our phony non representative government do not want us to know or ever to figure out on our own...and without permission..

And that secret ...is that China ...like Japan before them...do not want to hold dollars which they know will only inflate in purchasing power. Hence they want to buy up anything and everything of real value and usage....than holding dollars..

This is the singular knowledge and understanding for which our government....both phony political parties.....do not want us to understand while they run the value ...purchasing power of the dollar down into the toilet.

Only Americans can be this dumb and encouraged to remain so...while pushing buttons and pulling levers in a voting booth...or working our remote controllers and dialing our cell phones.

We must never be allowed to think this far without authorization.....without permission while enjoying this ride..into the toilet.

And our phony media is working hard to keep us so and ignorant. So too public education....

This is the one arena in which our system is constantly failing us...to keep us dumb....and this manufactured inflation covers anything and everything in our lives.....

A digital currency in the hands of a fiscally irresponsible government will change none of what is currently happening in inflation trends...
A digital currency will only mean more Ishmael...bondage and controls over the private sector of the economy..and more power and herding in the hands of government....

An unlimited government....not a limited government.

For a Government to be limited.....they have to be made fiscally limited....the very thing someone out here does not want because government is in fact representing them.

Be warned these Ishmaelites.


My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris

 

I didn't know that - not a bad thing in my view.

 

China has been buying tons of gold for a few years now.

September 2019:

https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/china-buys-more-gold-reserves-up-nearly-100-ton-on-the-year/

"China added another 5.91 tons of gold to its reserves in August, bringing its total official gold purchases on the year to almost 100 tons, according to data released by the People’s Bank of China over the weekend.

"It was the ninth straight month of gold purchases for China as it continues efforts to diversify reserves away from the US dollar."

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"China almost certainly owns more gold than the US – here’s why that matters"
Mar 2022

https://moneyweek.com/investments/commodities/gold/603131/how-much-gold-does-china-own

"China almost certainly owns a lot more gold than anyone else – including the USA. But how much? And why does it need so much gold? Dominic Frisby explains.

"If you thought the West was unprepared for inflation – or indeed for Russia – wait and see just how unprepared it is for this bombshell.

"This is the biggest story in world finance, and yet nobody, bar your intrepid blogger, is reporting on it.

"Why China might want to own a lot more gold than it’s admitting

"We’ve seen many examples over the last few decades of how the United States weaponises the dollar, exploiting its status as global reserve currency.

"The sanctions on Russia and its removal from the Swift messaging system this week are perhaps the most dramatic example of all. Russian civilians have had their wealth decimated (in fact, probably significantly more than decimated for most) almost overnight.

"China will be surely watching all of this, learning from Russia’s mistakes and thinking it needs to de-dollarise as swiftly and discreetly as possible. Whether to protect its citizens’ wealth or its national interests, China cannot be beholden to a banking system that is run by the West – the US especially – and which is one of their weapons of war.

"Both Russia and China have known they must de-dollarise for some considerable time, which is why both have been so steadily increasing their gold holdings.

"Let’s start with Russia’s gold. The chart is courtesy of Nick Laird of goldchartsrus.com and it shows the Russian Central Bank’s accumulation to today’s figure of, give or take, 2,300 tonnes – roughly 74 million ounces (there are 32,150 troy ounces in a tonne).

"Here’s why China’s gold reserves must be far bigger than official data suggests

"First, consider China’s US dollar holdings – over three trillion of them. That’s more than the UK’s annual GDP. Its US dollar holdings eclipse those of every other nation; China is not going to want those to go to zero – not yet, anyway.

"Then consider its gold holdings. It has 1,948 tonnes, barely 3% of its foreign exchange reserves. The US’s gold holdings equate to over 65% of its reserves.

"What if China were to approach that level?

"Well, my argument is that China has much more gold than it says it does.

"There are two parts to this argument. First, China’s gold mining. In 2007, China overtook South Africa as the world’s largest gold producer. It has remained so ever since. This past decade it has produced about 15% of all the gold mined in the world.

"Since 2000, China has mined roughly 6,830 tonnes. Over half of Chinese gold production is state-owned – the China National Gold Group Corporation alone accounts for 20%. And China keeps the gold it mines – the export of domestic mine production is not allowed.

"I say that number again: 6,830 tonnes. Already that official 1,948 figure looks very dubious.

"With reserves in decline at home, Chinese mining companies have also been buying assets abroad, across Africa, South America and Asia. International production exceeds domestic production – by about 15 tonnes in 2020.

"Second, there is the fact that, as well as being the biggest producer, China is the world’s biggest importer. Gold imports via Switzerland and Dubai are not always declared, but we do know that via Hong Kong alone, over 6,700 tonnes have entered the country since 2000.

"Add that to cumulative gold production since 2000, and you get a figure over 13,500 tonnes.

"Whether imported, mined or recycled, most of the gold that enters China goes through the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE), including the gold imported from Hong Kong. So SGE withdrawals – for which we do have numbers – can act as something of an approximation for demand. And it is possible to get numbers for SGE withdrawals: since 2008, almost 22,000 tonnes have been withdrawn from the SGE.

"Cobble it all together – cumulative production, imports and existing stock – and you arrive at a figure not far off 31,000 tonnes.

"I’ve spoken to some of the world’s top analysts – Ross Norman, Bron Suchecki and Koos Jansen – and they all arrive at similar estimates. Alasdair McLeod of Goldmoney thinks it is higher still.

"The Chinese army, too, owns gold and does not have to declare its purchases. And there are other state agencies, as well: the State Administration of Foreign Exchange and China Investment Corporation – the sovereign wealth fund, for example.

"How much of this gold is state owned? Norman guesses 50%; Suchecki, formerly of the Perth Mint, says 55%.

"At 50%, the implication is that China owns over 15,000 tonnes – closing in on double the US.

"Whether ten, 15 or 30,000 tonnes, there is no way China can declare such large holdings. Not yet anyway – it would cause an unwanted surge in both the yuan and the gold price. The government's $3.2trn of US dollar foreign exchange reserves would be devalued.

"What’s more, to declare so much gold would be a direct challenge to American supremacy, which China is probably not yet ready for. Parity first, then supremacy.

"If China decides to weaponise money, as the US has done, all it has to do is declare its gold holdings, perhaps even partially back the yuan with them. Talk was, at one stage, its central bank digital currency (CBDC) would be partially gold backed.

"Unbacked Western money risks losing a great deal of its purchasing power in such an event. To back Western fiat even partially with gold would mean a dramatic upwards revaluation of gold – into the tens of thousands.

"But that is the card China now has with its 20 years of relentless accumulation. He who owns the gold, makes the rules."


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I think, on balance, I prefer the idea of the French running most of our power infrastructure than china. Particularly so when it comes to Nuclear energy as France has proven experience with it.

 

I know of two nuclear reactors in the US whose building projects were shut down due to gross mismanagement.

One project was scrapped due to unions cutting corners to pocket massive amounts of money. This resulted it critical safety issues that killed the whole project. It would have been too expensive to start again.

Had this happened in communist China, the principals in that felonious activity would have been tracked down and shot dead.

I think that that is what such felons deserve. I'd volunteer to be part of the firing squad. I'd bring one of favorite rifles to the festivities.

 

I suspect we will have rolling blackouts, not entirely down to the power grid though. I am starting to feel that there is a coercive pressure from TPTB to keep us down (following on from the now, arguably, unnecessary covid lockdowns etc). Also the grid was not maintained as well as normal during the lockdowns.

Considering we are being asked to be mindful of our electricity usage there are a lot of lights left on in office building etc overnight.

 

I am suspecting that before someone, not wanting to be seen or known, gets done with most nations....we will be held hostage and in bondage to climate change....ie......herded....prisoner to Climate Change and its new and zealous religious beliefs and attendant controls over the herd.

Paying more but enjoying it less as the olde saying goes.

We will be paying a special tax to and for the Religion of Climate change...


A TAX is work we do for which we get no goods or services....no choices...no options with our monies....none of our individual decisions as to how our monies are spent....often earned at great risks.

I don't care what they teach in schools about taxes...for the individual a tax is work we do for which we get no goods or services.

What is inflation.......................Inflation is work we do for which we get no goods or services. Inflation is disguised taxation.

No wonder people are angry...we are paying two taxes here.....

Catching on yet????


Now on top of that someone wants to add a Carbon Tax.....

That is three taxes....


Catching on yet????

Are you feeling herded ????


Remember...these are "Experts"


Catching on yet..???


Are we even supposed to think this far on our own ....without permission????


Be Warned these Ishmaelites.

My non Ishmaelite .02,
Watcherchris

 

We'll see how the state elections go this week.

If find it mightily premature for the "experts" to be saying that there will be a conservative "tidal wave". We don't know that. Mail-in voter fraud aside, people actually have to vote. If conservatives imagine they will win no matter what, then don't vote, the election is lost to the socialists. Maybe this is the goal of the media. MANY more conservatives have to vote to overcome the mail-in ballot fraud that always happens.

If the conservatives do take the House and maybe even the Senate, then the Gaia-worship agenda and Borg assimilation programs may just get zapped. The current White House occupiers have done all they can to destroy our fuel supplies and reserves. They have been very effective at this. Maybe with more mature people being in Congress, some of that treasonous behavior can be negated. The money-printing can be slowed down even if it cannot now be stopped due to the Fed having already killed the dollar. Wall Street may get some relief. Who knows?

Seems the White House hasn't gotten us into a war with Russian quite yet. Maybe if conservatives take Congress, the W.House occupiers may just go full bore and trigger a greater conflict.

It is all a nasty situation. The train is coming off the mountain an the breaks have failed.
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"China could smuggle nuclear missiles hidden in shipping containers to Venezuela for surprise attack on US, experts warn"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16963561/china-smuggle-nuclear-missiles-venezuela/

"CHINA could smuggle nuclear missiles in shipping containers into ports in South America for a surprise attack on the US, experts have warned.

"Military analysts have sounded the alarm over the container capability which is believed to have been quietly developed by Beijing.

"It has been suggested China is working on a larger version of the weapon as part of a state-decreed 'dual use' deal with its space programme.

"The large rockets used to launch satellites could be easily repurposed as compact - container sized - nuclear-capable missiles.

"Rick Fisher, senior fellow in Asian military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, told The Sun Online it is possible China could smuggle these weapons to South America for a sneak attack on the US.

"And meanwhile, Captain James Fanell, a former intelligence chief for the US Pacific Fleet, said the the space rocket container launcher is obviously meant for military use.


"Sam Armstrong, a China expert from the Henry Jackson Society, said these container missiles can be key in China's smuggling weapons across the world - including to rogue states like Venezuela.

"China has hinted at its large scale container missile weapons."

 

China has loads and loads of internal problems. Their people are constantly rioting. You don't see it on the evening news.

Add to this, China wants to be THE power in the Far East. They wish to control ALL trade passing through the oceans of Asia.

China wants to have THE exchange currency of Asia.

China's leaders are in full-on aggression mode. It is a crazy soup of sh## for the Chines leadership. It's like watching a volcano rumble. Will it explode? Who knows, but it does not look like a safe situation at all.
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