Born To Kill? A Different View...

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  1. TexDanm

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    As I have read over so many of the posts here I've noted a few things. For one thing older men are a lot more blood thirsty than younger men and also American men are more willing to kill than men from other places. I have thought about it and have a few thoughts and theories.

    First off as a kid my most prized possessions were my guns. We constantly played Cowboys and Indians and war games. My Black handled Chrome plated single action cap pistol sits proudly in my gun case even today. LOL. We were raised by a generation of men that had gone to war and only the strong returned. The TV shows that I was raised on were Westerns with a lot of shooting and Combats shows based on WW2. We “shot” and killed each other several times a day with gusto. Our heroes were men that used guns to kill the bad guys.

    I was raised in war. I remember the Korean war and before it was over Vietnam fired up. Then there was the almost constant thought that Russia might decide to nuke us. I remember in Elementary school marching out into the halls and getting on my knees with my head down, eyes closed and mouth open, as I was taught, in nuclear bomb drills. They were like fire drills except you didn't get to go outside.

    I wastched every night on the news the reports of the deaths and actions of that days killiongs in Korea and then Vietnam. I watched my friends older brothers and my older cousins get drafted or join to avoid the draft and go off to war. Some never came home, some came home in pieces and some would have been better if they hadn't come home. A friends brother came home with no legs and not much else thanks to a bouncing Betty castration mine. He used to sit and look at his car that he had built and now couldn't drive until one day he finished what that God damned war had started. If you asked me what I was going to do when I grew up I would preface my answer with some form of if I don't get drafted or have to go to war I'm going to try and...

    Now a kid can get expelled from school if he bites his pop-tart into the rough shape of a handgun and plays with it like that. NO KIDDING! The liberal idiots that run the schools now consider even the little plastic toy guns that are the size of the end of your thumb as evil and dangerous as an assault weapon and will expel a kid for bringing a gun to school.

    Almost from my birth I was raised with the constant reminder that I could be expected to kill to “protect” my country and family. There was no worse thing than a coward. There was never a doubt in my mind that if I was called on to kill that I would do it. I not only will do it but it will be easy for me. I would never wish to hurt anyone but I nonetheless know that in the protection of my country family and home I will have no hesitation or qualms. I was prepared for that for my entire childhood.

    Where it was different from the crap now is that there were clear lines taught to us between good guys and bad guys. Our heroes were killers but they ONLY killed bad guys and the generally did it fair and square. You knew that when Roy Rogers shot someone that it had to be done and that person was a bad guy. John Wayne only shot bad guys. Bad guys were never heroes and had no good in them. It was a very black and white line. What this means is that while I will kill someone outwith thought that tries to hurt my family, conversely I am no threat to people that are not attacking me.

    Some how this line has been taken away now and kids learn the violence but not the line between right and wrong and good and bad. If I live to see things collapse I suspect that most of those kids will only last a few weeks. The difference between the quick and the dead is how fast you can learn the things that were pounded into me as a child.
     
  2. TexDanm

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    I watched a woman fighting with a kid the other day. He had a tiny little scratch and she was trying to wipe it off and put a bandaid on it. This kid was going ape crap and screaming bloody murder and fighting her for all he was worth. This wouldn't be shocking if the boy had been 3 or 4 years old but this little monster looked to be around 9. Can you imagine having to deal with this while trying to be quiet and travel??? My Mom and Dad would have beat me half to death if I had ever hit my Mom while throwing a fit. I was WAY more afraid of my Dad's belt than anything else! If he told me to jump. I jumped and THEN asked him how high.

    Self discipline starts with discipline. Kids now get none of the first and so have none of the second. It is so sad watching young men having to learn things that they should have been taught as children. They try to get a job and go to work and don't understand that your boss isn't going to debate ever single thing with you. He isn't going to hold your hand and She damn sure isn't going to do your job for you because that is easier than trying to MAKE you do it. I had all that stuff figured out by the time I was 12 or 13. I tried to hire and teach several kids my trade and it just was more trouble than it was worth.

    In a post apocalyptic world the penalty for laziness or stupidity will be death. I honestly don't see many kids making it past the first month. I was raised and my Dad worked hard to make me into a wolf. Kids these days that are not raised, rather they are stored until they are old enough to throw out were raised to be prey. They are toy poodles and won't make any mark on the future.
     
  3. Oldguy

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    Last time my tribe went on the rampage 50 million died before it was done.
    DNA is strong in my family:D
     
  4. Old Geezer

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    As a boy, I felt nothing around firearms. They were in every house. When you were little, you didn't touch them, else you got whipped. As you got older, you were taught to use them. I was afraid of power saws and chain saws.

    As a boy, I respected the men. Most had fought in WWII. In high school, my instructors were ex-military. I was on my high school rifle team (became captain, had expert's marksmanship badge at age 17) and was issued a target .22 rifle at age 15, along with an M14. Sergeant Major was team supervisor and also kept the firing pins for the M14's until Memorial Day when we fired salutes with blanks (we occluded the muzzles so that the actions would cycle). Our colonel was ex special forces and had also commanded mobile armor. He taught us how to stab people such that they would bleed-out quickly and such that the pain/shock would be so great that they couldn't scream.

    Rifle team and going hunting with my maternal grandfather (his family were subsistence hunters, had married in with the Cherokee, lived up past where the roads ended up in the hollers of N.Carolina) made me a firearms hobbyist. I have gone to my door with a loaded gun on more than one occasion, however I've never had to use them on people because the interlopers got religion. Shooting animals means food and I grow gardens. For whatever reason / Karma, I've always been around where there were mean dogs, therefore when considering firearms, dangerous-pests have always been in my mind. I've lived where bears came down out the mountains to where we humans called home, but I've never given much consideration to them (I just see them as being lazy/hungry, bruins who climb up in apple trees and break out the limbs).

    My own species I see as the worst kind of pests.
     
  5. TexDanm

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    LOL, power saws WERE scary as hell!!! I'm half a finger short because of one. If I had lost a little more I would not be able to use it on a trigger. We were raised in a different world. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth was the way of the land when we were kids. It gave us a totally different worldview than kids get now.
     
  6. Old Geezer

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    I knew a whole lot of New Testament people who'd go Old Testament in the twinkling of an eye.

    We WERE raised in a different world. I feel like that stranger in a strange land. But instead of just being strange, it has morphed into weak and diseased.

    Adults used to be adults. Men and women possessed insight and thoughtfulness. Back when, knee-jerk reactions were considered adolescent, certainly nothing an adult would do. In their work, people took their time and paid attention to detail. Today, "adults" have no more patience than children.

    And this weakness! No one will deal with anything. "I'm not getting involved. Somebody else will take care of that. Where's the government?! They should take care of this."

    "Civilians don't have the training!" I hear this all the time. Well get the d###ed training! "Civilians with firearms hurt themselves." Sheep, I'm living in a nation of sheep. City people are are afraid of gangs, looters, burglars, "teenagers", ... . Pathetic. Y'know what, if savage people attack, kill them all. Open up on them. I'm thinking that the bravado that gang-bangers exhibit on camera would soon fade away when their friends' brains were sprayed in their faces.

    What real women want certainly isn't any kind of limp-wristed men. Maybe this is the real reason why women are marrying other women in this day and age. In Heartland America, the men are still men.
     
  7. TexDanm

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    If gangbangers weren't cowards they wouldn't specialize in drive by hit and run shootings that kill kids. A real man, if he had an issue with someone that was so deep that he wanted them dead, would walk right up to them and kill them head on. Not drive by and shoot their kids and women.
     
  8. Old Geezer

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    The drive-by shooting phenomenon really hits a nerve with me. It is the same as rodent terrorists throwing frags into places crowded with civilians.

    Gangs who do this should be wiped out. All members should be shot to death. Burn down their hang-outs and when they run out, kill them all. If they have their hands up, they make better targets. Annihilate them. Hand their bodies from telephone poles as a message to anyone else who would dare form criminal gangs who put the lives of civilians in danger. May such filth only know perpetual terror. May they soil their pants until we get around to cleansing the Earth of them.

    KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
     
  9. Old Geezer

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  10. lonewolf

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    there have been about 80 + fatal stabbings and shootings-but mainly stabbings-in London this year alone, mostly gang related.
     
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  11. watcherchris

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    Good Grief Olde Geezer....


    Two legged wildlife....your talking about two legged wildlife.

    Most four legged wildlife knows when to back down and walk away...but the two legged variety seems not to know this.


    Not much use here for two legged wildlife.


    I can respect the motivations of four legged wildlife more than the two legged variety...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris.
     
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  12. TexDanm

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    There have been over 1700 shootings in Chicago so far this year. They had 74 people shot over the weekend a couple weeks ago. Gun control at its best!!
     
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  13. lonewolf

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    stay out of cities, I haven't been in a city for 20 years, I have no need to, most of our high streets are dying because everybody orders their stuff online and gets it delivery to the door. times are changing.
     
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  14. TexDanm

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    Houston gives me the willies to tell the truth. Too many people too crowded and they don't meet your eyes when you say something to them.
     
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  16. poltiregist

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    We still raise our kids the old way starting them off as toddlers with sling shots and toy guns . As soon as they are capable of aiming and shooting "about 6 " their started on the real guns . their out hunting own their own as soon as they show responsible gun handling . We don't raise gay folks here .
     
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  17. TMT Tactical

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    It is not that old folks are more blood thirsty, but we have seen death and we have seen enough two legged trash to know some folks will need killing if the SHTF. We do not look forward to the crash but we will be prepared to take life, if it is needed to protect our own. The young will see a thug and try to negotiate. The old will know better and just eliminate the varmints on sight.
     
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  18. TexDanm

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    It isn't a matter of being blood thirsty. It is about dealing with reality. Freedom has a cost that has to be paid sooner or later. The old saying about the tree of freedom needing to be watered with the blood of patriots is a simple statement of fact. What we have in the US for instance will only last as long as we as a people are willing and ready to defend those things from those that want to take them away.

    We were prepared by our fathers to do exactly that. The toy guns and the good guys being the heroes that fought and killed the bad guys was impressed into us as children. When we were called upon we went, we fought and we in all to many cases died. Do you really think that the liberal masses will enlist to fight if we ever need to fight to survive again? These kids today would rather starve to death than kill a chicken for supper! Our tree of freedom is dying. As it turns out, it is the willingness to shed blood rather than the blood itself that feeds the tree.
     
  19. TMT Tactical

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    Still some good young folks. I raised two. One just retired from the U.S. Navy, 20 years. Now enrolled in the P.O.S.T. (Police Officer Specialist Training) at his local college and is also going for his A.S. in Criminal Justice. Proud of both my sons. They will defend our country and our way of life. They are just a bit more mellow than me.
     
  20. Morgan101

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    TexasDanm: Sounds like we were raised in very similar households, with very similar values. In my lifetime I have seen two significant changes from my childhood values, and they are changes for the worst. Remember the old adage " sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. " Not any more. Say the wrong thing even by accident, and it can cost you a job. Say something the Left doesn't agree with, and you are branded a racist, sexist, homophobe. Free Speech is only what people on the Left want to hear. Forget about any dissenting opinion.

    The second thing we grew up with is " Crime doesn't Pay ". Remember that one? Well it pays now, BIG TIME. There are no consequences to bad or criminal behavior. Nobody gets punished. Everybody has an excuse how it wasn't their fault. " Yeah, I shot that guy, but I was on drugs, and my mother didn't hug me." O.K. you can go.

    I seriously wonder how people are going to fight, and spill blood over American values when they won't even argue, or debate the people who are trying to take those values away.
     
  21. watcherchris

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    "I'm a victim...!!! I'm a Victim!!! I have "Victim Status" therefore I can play through many steps ahead of you and hold you to my "Victim Default " settings/status.

    Phil Donahue did a good job of beginning Institutional Victimization as a natural default setting to where everything must be viewed before hand through the prism of "victimization" not through right or wrong.

    The historical word or expression for this is chaos manufacturing or in our parents and grandparents time..."putting the cart before the horse."

    This is a "Revolution " which has taken place and almost no one with a television and or movie education realizes it.

    I get tired and disgusted with the next predictable round of Professional "Victims." Sometimes you can see them coming.

    This is also how one gets crime to pay.


    Remember back in the OJ Simpson trial when someone predicted that before the defense got done...the police department would be on trial...not OJ Simpson. That is exactly what happened.

    This is how Ishmaelites work...confusion , bondage....putting the cart before the horse.


    My non Ishmaelie .02,
    Watcherchris
     
  22. The Innkeeper

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    Would I kill someone if need be? I believe so. I served in the military but not in combat. I have seen a lot of death including violent. I have counselled many people who have taken the life of another or lost a loved one due to violence. No one come out unchanged.

    What concerns me, is not the violence or the death, but the number of supposedly “normal” people who either enjoy it or fantasize about it. I,m not speaking of mental preparation here, I know numerous Preppers who can hardly wait to a WROL situation until they can kill someone. That’s just deranged.
     
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  23. Morgan101

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    Thought you might enjoy this. A brilliant man putting that pompous ass Donahue in his place.

     
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  24. Morgan101

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    I agree with you, and I can only hope that a lot of it is " little boy brag". It is easy to talk tough when there is not threat, and you are among friends. It is a different kettle of fish when it is a real life threat with live fire.

    Remember the Clint Eastwood movie Unforgiven? The young kid who hooks up with him is full of talk until he pulls the trigger. He was drastically changed. I always wondered how close that was to being true? I'm sure at least part of it was.
     
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  25. watcherchris

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    by Morgan 101,

    This is wearing thin on thinking Americans...and they are becoming a quiet but growing people.

    Thinking Americans do not want to be herded ...held hostage to someone else's views on Racism, Sexism, sexuality and homophobia...which is exactly what is happening in America....herding ..hostage taking..bondage...censorship.

    People talk about a Civil War taking place in America....Wow!!
    It has already happened against the American Value system.

    At a certain level it has already happened....and is constantly taking place...with the purpose of Properly Herding Americans unto a social/political/PC destination.....group think.

    I cannot remember that authors name...perhaps some of the other members here can...

    He wrote..."Animal Farm."



    Listening to the news about the Democratic Debates....you can hear the predictable animal farm running amok and the Ishmaelites trying to steer the issues....to their pet Placebos....on the backs of unthinking America.

    If you think about it you could see and hear that Kamala Harris was going to take off on race and racism. She must have it as a talking point.....

    What I am wondering about ..is in the next round are the leftists going to complete the circle predictably ..with sex, sexuality , and homophobia....issues...for votes....in like manner to how they have played and preyed on race and racism.


    For those of you reading this .....what I am saying is that the left is become predictable...

    Race has become a tailored/made to order "Cottage Industry" to them. They are become dependent on it.....and must never let it die out.... They must use and misuse it to hold the rest of America hostage....guilty ...ashamed ...and then Herd America by this made to order cottage industry.

    It becomes predictable....once you wake up.


    Speaking for myself.....I don't want to get up every day and be bombarded ...herded to the point where I must needs make my life's daily decisions through the enforced and inveigled prism of race....everything needs to be race and racism.

    Now too include sex. sexuality and sexual orientation....to herd you....and steer your individual liberties and freedoms.
    And if you do not cede to this "Herding" willingly ...you are a homophobe. Got it now????

    What is happening for those of you who cannot think it through..is that you are being socially manipulated...herded to subsidize ...unconsciously someone else's "Cottage Industry" someone else's politics....

    Remember this as these debates continue....

    Also remember it as our phony fake leadership from both parties use and misuse these issues to continue to herd us.
    The Republicans by their code of silence on this when they should be teaching you to think for yourself.
    The Republicans are so ...so ...phony. In their silence on this ...the Republicans are clearly demonstrating that they are not Conservatives...but instead an important part of the Herding team.

    And they are "Killing " unsuspecting Americans and America with this MO.


    Once you begin to see it...you will see it more and more often ..particularly at election time.

    They are become naked...the king has on no clothes as the saying goes.


    Ishmaelites one and all.....

    My non Ishmaelite .02,

    Watcherchris
     
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  27. TMT Tactical

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    @Morgan101

    Thanks for the Donahue video. This should be mandatory viewing by every American with a working brain, socialist excluded. We really need the government to be reduced back to just building infrastructure and military defense. End all the other department. Border guarded by the military and anybody invading is subject to being shot. Charity handled by charitable organization, not government welfare and hand out. Rant over, before I get too far into my tirade.
     
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