Collapsing Of The United States

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  1. Old Geezer

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pe...use-was-vandalized-2-days-before-election-day

    "Sean Parnell, the Republican congressional candidate for Pennsylvania's 17th District, said Sunday that his house has been vandalized just two days before Election Day.

    "'My house was vandalized last night by cowards under the cover of darkness,' Parnell wrote on Twitter. 'This is what is at stake in this election. We all must fight for our country and we must do it NOW. I will not cower. I will not back down. I will always fight for this nation.'

    "A photo shared by Parnell shows his garage door spray-painted with the message 'Elections No Revolution Yes!, as well as an image of a hammer and sickle, a symbol associated with communism."

    If we here in America get a Kamala regime and the police are defunded, then without the police in the way, we real Americans can just "take care of business" ourselves. We are the disciplined ones. We are the ones who possess the shooting skills. We are the deer hunters with scoped high-power rifles, the ones who have been practicing and sighting-in at rifle ranges. If the Marxists want revolution, then we will show them what that really means.

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  3. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...atment-means-we-all-end-up-at-the-same-place/

    "Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) made a final pitch for socialist ideology two days before the presidential election, posting a video explaining the difference between 'equality' and 'equity' and concluding that 'equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place.'
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    “'Equality suggests ‘Oh everyone should get the same amount.’ The problem with that, not everybody’s starting out from the same place. So if we’re all getting the same amount, but you started out back there and I started out over here — we could get the same amount, but you’re still going to be that far back behind me,' the narration continued.

    “'It’s about giving people the resources and the support they need so that everyone can be on equal footing and then compete on equal footing,' she continued as the video showed the fruitful ground rising the man up to the original level of the white man, where he then grabbed the rope and climbed up to the peak.

    “'Equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place,' she concluded"

    In sum, if you work harder than someone else, if you are smarter and come up with superior ideas, this means nothing. You get your ration. The lazy and stupid get the same ration.

    Kamala wants to turn this nation into the USSA. And again, Biden is a mentally disabled figure-head. He is in no way the true candidate of the Democratic Socialist Party. A vote for Biden is a vote for Commie Kamala. In the USSA, you will not be permitted to be better prepared for hard times than the inferior grasshoppers. All resources must be distributed equally.
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  4. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rs-admits-democrats-are-party-coastal-elites/

    "Days before the 2020 presidential election, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) says Democrats are the 'party of the coastal elites.'

    "During an interview with Seth Meyers, Sanders admitted that Democrats represent the interests of the nation’s billionaires who are concentrated in Washington, D.C., New York City, and Los Angeles.

    “'I think it is fair to say that in many ways the Democratic Party has become a party of the coastal elites, folks who have a lot of money, upper-middle-class people who are good people, who believe in social justice in many respects,' Sanders said.

    “'But I think for many, many years the Democratic Party has not paid the kind of attention to working-class needs that they should’ve,' Sanders continued. 'And that has a lot to do with who funds campaigns, etc.'

    "Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign certainly fits the description mentioned by Sanders. Wall Street executives in New York City have poured more than $74 million into Biden’s campaign this election cycle."
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...nist-compares-trump-caravans-isis-terrorists/

    "Renee Graham, a columnist for the Boston Globe, compared the caravans springing up around the country in support of President Donald Trump with Islamic State terrorist invasions.

    "'See the difference? Me neither.' Graham tweeted on Saturday under two photos, one of a pro-Trump caravan and the other of footage of armed ISIS terrorists."
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  6. Old Geezer

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    "Former Vice President Joe Biden doubled down on his calls to ban 'assault weapons' and 'high capacity' magazines and to institute other gun controls on the final Sunday of his 2020 presidential campaign.

    "Biden’s campaign wrote on his officialvTwitter account: 'As president, I’ll ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, implement universal background checks, and enact other common-sense reforms to end our gun violence epidemic.'

    "Breitbart News reported that Biden’s proposals not only contain a ban on the future manufacture of AR-15s and other firearms the Democrats label 'assault weapons' but also a provision that could require every AR-15 rifle to be registered under the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA). Unless there was some form of carve-out, this could mandate that American gun owners pay a $200 federal tax for each AR-15 that they own."

    The socialists will not admit that high crime rates in urban areas are due to high concentration of human types who are unable to override their aggressive motivations -- glandular in origin -- with higher brain functions. Some people are neurologically incapable of engaging in fully civilized behavioral patterns. We have all met them, even have been attacked by them. This is why civilized people are abandoning the cities. This is why the Democratic Socialists wish to destroy American suburbs by forcing welfare housing projects down their throats. "Let's just all pretend that our Marxist professors were correct. If civilized humans get raped and murdered; well, that's just too bad, we will get the media to cover-up the stories."
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  7. F22 Simpilot

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    You need to learn about the AN/PRC-117

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PRC-117
     
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  8. Dalewick

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    Who and why? Civilians aren't very likely to acquire this hardware. Or at least no where I've been able to locate. Do you have a source by any chance?

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  9. Old Geezer

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    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/01/vonneguts-dark-vision-arrived-60-years-early/

    "Kurt Vonnegut’s short story – Harrison Bergeron – was written in 1961, and in Vonnegut’s darkly satirical style, portrayed America in 2081 as an disgracefully dystopian nightmare. Little did Vonnegut know what he considered outrageous and 120 years in the future, would be far closer to our current dystopian reality just 60 years later. The story was brought to my attention by my wife a week ago when we were talking about the absurdity of masks, their uselessness in stopping viruses, how they are nothing more than a means to control the population, being used to spread fear, and as a dehumanizing technique.

    "She remembered the name Diana Moon Glampers from reading the story in high school. Never has a story that takes 15 minutes to read, captured the evilness and depravity of a government demanding 'equality' in a more succinct and brutal manner. Its parallels with our current government enforced lockdown, mandatory muzzles, mainstream media propaganda, and social media censorship is uncannily accurate.

    "The premise of Vonnegut’s story is George and Hazel Bergeron sitting on their couch watching TV, sometime after their fourteen-year old son Harrison had been taken away by the government and jailed for the crime of being strong, good looking, intelligent, and defiant against their ridiculous regulations and dictates. The mediocre minds of those in charge had taken the American Declaration of Independence’s phrase – 'All men are created equal' to a ludicrous extreme.

    "Their warped interpretation of our founding document failed to acknowledge the term 'independence', and the unalienable rights of all men to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We are created equal in the eyes of God, but we have free choice to use our abilities to succeed or fail in life. Some people use their intellectual abilities to succeed, others use their athletic strength, and others their physical appearance and talents. The government should not dictate who should succeed or fail."
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  10. Old Geezer

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    The voting dead
    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elec...ead-caught-voting-democrat-run-new-york-city/

    "A Black Lives Matter mob attacked a polling station Sunday afternoon in North Carolina after their 'March to the Polls' demonstration turned violent, as expected. Many individuals are under arrest after police were deployed to protecting the early voting station as citizens hoped to participate in the last day of early voting."
    https://en-volve.com/2020/11/02/blm...-nc-police-move-in-after-violence-breaks-out/
     
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  11. watcherchris

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    LOL LOL LOL LOL....

    Sounds like a rig one gets at radio shack...or even Ham Radio Outlet..Circuit City....



    When we were building these Los Angeles Class Submarines...I used to like to go into the radio rooms before they put the cypher/security locks on the doors ....

    I made a point to check out the gear and in particular the type of coaxial cable they were using...

    One thing became quickly clear...they did not use the cheap Radio Shack coaxial Cable.

    Until that time I had never seen a double shielded cable.....and I immediately thought to myself....."Cha Ching!!!"

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    by Olde Geezer....

    Your statement immediately causes me to flashback to the classic news picture of the fellow after hurricane Katrina wading through flood waters and floating basket full of Heineken beers down the waters.

    There was an American with their priorities straight...


    Ok...Ok.....I looked it up...it is still on line....classic...higher brain functions...no doubt..

    Now there is a Prepper!!!

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  13. LastOutlaw

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    One day after the election should have been over. Watching as numbers change , States switch colors on the map. How can one not think that this is election fraud? You can mark this day in history as the day trust in the electoral system ended in America and we officially became a 3rd world nation. Not that we all haven't seen this coming, but a disgusting feeling just the same. There are a lot of very angry people in the US right now and there are many more to come as the other side gets screwed as well when their elected leader is replaced by the socialist/communist/radical running mate. I feel very sad today, not because the guy who I voted for isn't going to be in office but because I know that either my grandchildren will suffer through a life under socialist/communist rule or they will suffer through a nasty civil war. At this point I feel that those are the only two directions I see possible in the destiny of this country. Will we need to dip our finger in the purple ink next election?
     
  14. varuna

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    Suffering or Happiness is very subjective. Just because you believe they were suffering doesn't mean they felt the same. They could even willingly embrace the way of life that you now call suffering for them.
     
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  15. Dalewick

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    This is the make or break for the country I believe. If the cheating stands and Biden/Harris are the next president I believe they will at least try to confiscate firearms and they will destroy our economy. I can see them not starting a war. We "Deplorables" are funny that way.

    If Biden is President, I'll be leaving all social media. I believe everyone knows why.

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    And how is that going to benefit you or giving you any advantage?
     
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  17. poltiregist

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    The possibility of a Biden / Harris reign and the resulting communist agenda of disarming their subjects is the very reason I have refrained from posting on here about weaponry that I may or may not have . I just try to think ahead .
     
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  18. LastOutlaw

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    Spoken like a socialist. My grand daughter is aware even at her young age about her American freedom and the prices paid for it. Most kids today know nothing of that or their rights because it is no longer taught in public schools. This child however is home schoo0led. She was not indoctrinated by socialists in the public school system. She actually pays attention to news and knows how to critically think on her own. She is anxious to be of age to vote herself. I only hope her vote will still count by then. It is doubtful.

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  19. varuna

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    Progressive Revolutionary to be exact

    BTW you do realize that you American had elected a Kenya guy as POTUS twice right? That said a lot as a nation
     
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    I'm not stupid.
    Seems like you are trying to push buttons.
    Troll much?
     
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  21. varuna

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    Nobody said or imply you as such. And I'm sure you are a wise person in your own fashion

    So merely stating fact is now considered trolling heh?
     
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  22. Dalewick

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    Social media use (AKA = internet) makes it much easier to track you and in a socialist society anything you say or write can and will be used against you.

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    How that is any difference than some face to face social gathering or even having phone line in your house? If I were to conduct surveillance against someone who believe they don't have internet access and most likely don't have any mean of cyber or electronic countermeasure either, than I use other method such as using their home phone or I send someone (local asset) to do some legwork or I can always send a rather high flying drone (all these methods are available commercially)

    Even if you believe you don't have any internet connected device around you (which is unlikely, you just don't know it), someone else close to you will have something.

    If one to go hiding in a dystopian world, camouflage & mobility are keys. Hardening oneself serve little purpose other then giving "feeling good"
     
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  24. Pragmatist

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    Good morning LastOutlaw,

    This election environment was anticipated and is, so far, successfully being addressed.

    There were no major riots.

    There were no political force power grabs; the military and police remained quiet.

    My personal view is that this is the last national election as we know them. Just about every aspect of -real - political matters is accomplished by appointed officials. There will remain a veneer of camoflage but the trend is clear to see. Even school boards are defacto fading away.

    The great fortunes of America will no allow a socialist-communist government to obtain the centers of power. So far, Trump controls ALL of the power centers.

    The Trump campaign already filed legal documents to contest a few of the elections. It's also been publicly stated by campaign that the overall situation is enroute to the Supremes. Trump controls this legislative body.

    Homeschooling is great. It is highly developed in Virginia.
     
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  25. poltiregist

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    Some good points Varuna . When I was under federal Government Surveillance " years ago " they taped my land line phone and sent feet on the ground personnel to follow , spy , and talk to me . This cat and mouse game went on for years . I considered it funny at first but the invasion of my private life soon turned into a more serious development . I didn't know anything about FISA warrants at the time and don't know whether they had one or not . ---- Dalewick has a valid concern . Especially with his military back ground . I contribute part of the alarm bell going off about me was about my military background . Sometimes the government fear what they have created . --- I contribute another aspect of the alarm bell going off was my serious prepping activity and the characters I palled around with . --- I stopped keeping company with the notorious characters and eventually " years " later the surveillance seemed to stop . ---- I do know a C.I.A. Agent that I consider a friend and yes they do monitor sites such as this but I simply will not let them control my life and crawl into seclusion in fear of them monitoring me . One of those notorious characters I mentioned gave me the advice " just be careful what you say ". I consider that was good advice and will pass it on .
     
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  26. watcherchris

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    Preppers are not liked because they do not tend to follow the herd....or be easily herded/persuaded.

    Preppers are often skeptical of the MSM and the official government explanations of events.

    Preppers tend towards being independent..and thus not following most of the "herd."

    And Preppers tend also to have many members with military experience in numerous fields..

    This is very dangerous to a government whose main goal is herding a people and nation to conformity...



    I was very skeptical both times when governments went after the Michigan Militia...,

    It smacked of manufacturing a bad guy.....for political purposes...

    When President Obama did it and also of recent when this Michigan Governor did it....same MO.....news sensationalism..


    I was told many years ago...that there was a war in this country against small businesses...particularly very independent small businesses.

    It is similar with Preppers....independence...a very dangerous thing in a government hell bent on socialism....ie...Herding people under the guise of protecting their rights...and freedoms.


    I think that the real problem with Trump and Company is downsizing the government control over peoples lives and livelihoods.

    When you do that........a strange and almost unknown thing/phenomenon happens......people's production goes up very rapidly.

    Wow...imagine that????


    Things are often not what they seem out here...in particular when we are talking about politics/power and control over the herd...

    If asked...or checked on ....Most Americans do not want to be herded.....


    The historical way people and nations are often herded...is under the guise of an emergency....
    And when the emergency is over..the power gained is seldom given back to the people....

    Wow....Imagine that!!!!


    To the Roman Senate...

    "You must give us all power to save Rome from Hannibal!!"

    And they did it..!!


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  27. Old Geezer

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    As per what Watcherchris just said:

    So let's say the Social Democrats take the Executive Branch of government. Americans who are essential for America to function will be massively demotivated to contribute anything to the invalid presidency, Washington D.C. in general. They will become scofflaws, turbo-scofflaws. Me, I draw a paycheck so my pay is raped by excessive taxation before I get it. Others however, have incomes that can be "manipulated". Their reported incomes are NOT going to be their true income. I guess the Treasury department could quadruple the numbers of its workers; still, even that will not cut it.

    What will people do to harm invalid government?

    People can stop buying new trucks and automobiles. Some states yearly tax a person's vehicles based on value. I myself have not purchased a new vehicle in a forever. Big Brother will attempt to force people to buy new "energy efficient" vehicles. This will result in people paying-off vehicle inspectors. Families will share one vehicle. Farmers will be exempt unless the government wants immediately to start a shooting civil war. Armed masses have already shown up on government building steps concerning firearms laws. If the government pushes this stuff, expect to see government vehicles getting torched. If BLM and Antifa can do it, Heartlanders can also.

    Concerning Leftist defunding of law enforcement: LEOs are already retiring early and young officers are moving out of urban areas taking their families with them. Everyday working class are also moving away from the cities and dumping their real estate on markets that are already in bad shape. Property values are falling, thus tax revenues are falling. If municipalities increase taxes, they will make the problem far worse. Crime rates will increase in urban areas and guess what, this will push even more responsible people out.

    If Leftist government attempts to move the urban welfare masses into areas where productive citizens live, there will be violence. For starters, robberies and murders will increase. Number two, responsible people are already near the boiling point and they are arming themselves in droves. Push people too far and they begin engaging in behaviors that are abnormal for them; i.e., people go nuts, people go violent. We are going to start seeing usually-passive white folk turn into killers. When rioters show up in the wrong communities, they are going to get shot by people who under other circumstances would NEVER go aggressive. Expect to see madness and rivers of blood.

    Expect to see sabotage. Expect to see it in variations you'd never even thought of. Formally "solid citizens" are going to begin doing damage to the holdings of government. Government forms are not going to get mailed or mailed to non-existent addresses. Power-plant equipment is going to "suddenly fail" and it will take a "long time to repair it". Electrical grids are going to go down and not be repaired "any time soon". Heavy equipment is going to be rigged to run in a straight direction and driven into electrical power substations. Transformers are going to catch FMJs. During the wildcat strikes back where I'm from, the union workers used to throw sticks of dynamite into substations at the local factories. Don't make creative people go angry.

    When the working people go mean, they will not engage in the stupid & inferior behaviors of Antifa and BLM. You never want the intelligent to go guerilla warfare on you. You never want people who make kill shots out past 400 yards to go to war against you.
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  28. Dalewick

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    Varuna, I didn't say I was getting rid of the internet, just social media. I'm not a spy and I'm not at war. I do understand how anything you say or write can be twisted, altered or misrepresented and used against you. Especially in a socialist or hostile society. Information is a tool and a weapon, depending on how it's used.

    I don't believe in ever reducing my tools. I do understand what has to happen for socialist to control the USA. Enough about that though.

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  29. varuna

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    Are you aware that all survivalist / prepper forum (that I'm aware of) have Facebook tracker, not to mention Google analytic, this forum included?

    I'm not encoragingn anyone to use any social media if they don't like it, however saying that your out of their reach simply by not having any account there is just flawed. Company such as Facebook & Google core business is about data mining and they doesn't care whether or not you have any account with them. Nearly all websites these days have Facebook tracker & Google analytic in them. But at least both Facebook & Google had been scrutinize due to their practice, company such as Microsoft is worse, they never been scrutinize and currently manage to track me down rather continuously without my consent up to 100 m accuracy using rather simple technique that Google also use
     
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  30. Dalewick

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    LOL! I have less than a dozen friends on Facebook and don't use it that often, so closing that account is first. I don't use Google either. I use Bing, without a profile. I live in an area of West Virginia known as the Wilderness district on the perimeter of 2 national parks. Keeping track of who comes and goes, isn't that hard. In an area of almost 90 square miles there are only 3000 some people and almost all of that lives in a town that's about 20 miles from me.

    I'm not looking to be invisible or hide. I am looking at preventing interactions with a socialist government (If Biden wins) to make my life simpler. For as long as possible.

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  31. poltiregist

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    I am not giving up on Trump remaining in power until he does . As things stand right now the economy is set to crash under the communist take over . Buying anything will likely soon be daunting as inflation soars and this is likely just the beginning . I would hate to be a sheeple . --- I know my group working toward an air evacuation plan is extreme but today the evacuation of the United States is looking more reasonable than when we started down that path . Talk by personnel close to Biden has already commenced of " cleansing the United States of Republicans " .
     
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  32. Max rigger

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    LOL, I've bookmarked this post and I'll revisit it in a few months thats if the commies haven't taken out the internet. Air evac? Where would you go thats better than home? You can't travel internationally now and perhaps for a good while to come so did you mean relocate in the USA or another country and if another country which one?
     
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  33. LastOutlaw

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    I have to say I do disagree with the title of this thread. The US is not collapsing it is struggling with a soft coup attempt. Forces are attempting to overthrow the duly appointed government of the people.

    Just to lighten things up a bit though how about a bit of music.
    Pallets full of Ballots:

     
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  34. poltiregist

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    Some of our survival group has meet twice today and brought the subject up as to where to evacuate to . In country and out of country destinations are on the table .So far we don't have a destination . Still I find us having to do this as being remote but as preppers we try to prepare for all scenarios . Nether is our aircraft ready , as of now we don't even own one . Likely an airplane will be bought within the next few weeks .
     
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  35. wally

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    there really is no where left to flee too its america or bust...
     
  36. LastOutlaw

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    We have tossed the idea of leaving out the window many years ago. We researched heavily. Any other country that one runs to is not safe because you are not a citizen. At any point your property could be confiscated. Almost all that are out there are tied into the central banking system or are also socialist and the few that aren't tied in are hostile to freedom loving people.
    In any foreign country one can awaken in the morning and find new government in control.
    The US is my country. I will die here.
     
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  37. poltiregist

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    I take your analysis seriously and will add it to our formulation of our survival decision . thanks .
     
  38. Max rigger

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    Not many places welcoming immigrants these days and thats exactly what you would be. Better the devil you know and all that.
     
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  39. Old Geezer

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    The Blue Wave didn't happen. Significant states stopped the vote-counting to manufacture a Biden win. Republicans made gains in the House. There will still be a Republican majority in the Senate.

    That the Repubs still hold Senate means that the soc.dems cannot legally pack the SuprCourt. This is a tremendous victory for the the short term continuance of the US.

    The holding of the senate will delay the most radical proposals of the socialists. Other matters are lost. Foreign policy is lost to the internationalists. The "money" and stock market holdings in retirement accounts will lose massive value. Trump continued printing money. Our national debt is now totally non-maintainable. The coming socialist administration will fraudulently print trillions of funny-money dollars. The dollar will die much sooner than many have thought.

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    Foreign policy is going to be a tragedy. Iran and N.Korea will be enabled. China will be allowed to expand its rape of Asia. The US presidency will league with anti-Zionist forces. Terrorist groups will use a socialist USA as a springboard for attacks against the West and against Israel.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...llars-going-to-the-palestinian-jihad-n1131168

    Yahoo news joyous that a demPres will not support Israel
    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-win-setback-israels-netanyahu-212321784.html

    https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...biden-on-win-and-some-celebrate-trumps-defeat

    "Iran's state news agency quoted President Hassan Rouhani as saying the U.S. must now correct its 'false approach toward Iran in the past three years.'"
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    The likelihood of the US dollar falling in value is reflected by the rise in prices of precious metals as a hedge against collapse of fiat dollar.

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  40. varuna

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    And why should they accept any immigrant that bring no tangible value whatsoever? And by tangible value I'm wasn't referring to any set of $ or any precious metals either
     
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  41. Old Geezer

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    Iran, China, North Korea, the Palestinian Authority have visions of America, England, and Western Europe. Their visions look much like the following:

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    It appears the last somewhat honest election to be held in the United States was in the year 2016 . I seriously doubt there will ever be anything close to a real and honest election in the United States again . The Communist party masquerading as Democrats will make sure they never relinquish power again . Even Russia and China occasionally hold a rigged election to appease their subjects . It wasn't but a few months ago the guy that decided to run against Puttin was posioned .
     
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    Unity



     
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    In the West, things are going to go so chaotic, so violent, that discussions about having elections will be ridiculous. There's not going to be another "four more years".

    Before 2024, there will be a crumbling, a snapping of spines, a destruction of all urban commerce -- mass-psychosis will follow.

    World War is on the doorstep. I see no way that nuclear exchanges can be prevented. There is no one left to stand up to the international bully-countries. What little bit of peace that is left is going to be turned into hell.

    We'll see if our military forces allow the communists in the White House to cede Southeast Asia to China. Taiwan is dead meat. Japan will be threatened.

    Covid cases will rise (minimally) and the Socialists will take the opportunity to perpetually shut down the economy each time the numbers blip. This will destroy the economy of the former-USA. Dollar printing = the end.

    Psychologically, the squishy-soft people are not going to survive what is coming even if they physically make it four more years.
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  46. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Last Outlaw,

    My agreement; it's a political coup d'. This place isn't going away so fast.

    It's now a Philadelphia voting fraud issue going to the Supremes. This is the ultimate "wait and see".

    "There is meaning in waiting." Philosopher Miguel Unamuno, "The Tragic Sense of Life", 1936.

    Preppers today resemble the post WWII - and especially the post Korean War - motorcyclists. Negative connotations are attached to the label "Preppers" whereas Preppers really are the lead private citizenry from our ancestry of bucket brigades, colonial forces, barn wall raisers and those showing up to do the common labor tasks.

    I understand that many key Chiefs of State had to make statements re the election winner.

    I'm watching how the NATO Secretary General fares with his shell of an alliance. Jens Stolterberg likes US $$$ but doesn't want to contribute to continental Europe's defense. Did NATO need a congrat statement re Biden ?! Am hoping there's no Reichbank fires starting on the Continent.

    "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Thomas Mann
     
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  47. wally

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    was reading a pdf of the fate of empires

    and in it they show the average life time of an empire(not sure i agree that america is an empire) but anywho just about everyone you can think of only lasted about 250 years then they self destruct generally... that may be our fate if we just sit by and watch it all happen with narry a peep....JMT
     
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  48. lonewolf

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    I think the Roman Empire lasted longer than that but all Empires collapse eventually, they implode from the inside, usually due to corruption and fraud, sound familiar?
     
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  49. varuna

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    Imperium Romanum is probably the longest empire in history (pls correct me if I'm mistaken in this) The establishment as an empire usually referred as to start at 27 BC (Principate) all the way to the Fall of Constantinople in 1453 AD
     
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  50. lonewolf

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    The Roman Empire started around 27BC and the last Roman Emperor Romulus Augustulus was deposed in 476 AD by a Germanic King.
    The Romans abandoned Britain in 410AD.
     
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