Collapsing Of The United States

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  1. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-aliens-going-to-senate-in-my-first-100-days/

    "Democrat Joe Biden says he will send an amnesty deal for “over 11 million” illegal aliens to the United States Senate in his first 100 days in office.

    "Currently, about 24.5 million Americans are either jobless or underemployed, but all want full-time jobs. Those unemployed are forced to compete in the labor market by an endless stream of foreign workers who secure visas and green cards that rack up to more than 2.5 million admissions every year."

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-13-gang-members-charged-murdering-informant/

    "Five illegal alien MS-13 gang members have been charged by federal prosecutors with murdering an informant in 2018 in Texas.

    "All of the murder suspects are illegal aliens from El Salvador, the country where many MS-13 leaders reside, and had been living in Houston, Texas.

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  2. Old Geezer

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    Rich Americans securing means to bug out of a collapsing USA.

    "second pass ports" a.k.a. "golden passports"

    The elites cause the problems, then if things get too hot, they want to make sure that they can run away.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/rich-americans-scrambling-buy-golden-passports-second-country

    "Americans are thinking: ‘I want to have that ability to move as quickly as possible and not be stuck," said Nestor Alfred, CEO of St. Lucia's citizenship-by-investment unit.

    "Another factor stoking interest is the prospect of a President Biden and a flipped Senate in January resulting in massive tax hikes on the wealthy. Others are securing the passports out of fear of social unrest according to Apex Capital Partners, which says its clients have increased 650% since the November 3 election.

    "'We’re seeing this interest from Americans who are all saying the same things that Chinese, or Middle Eastern or Russian clients are saying,' said Apex founder Nuri Katz. 'They’re saying, ‘We’re not leaving the U.S. right now, but we’re concerned and we want to have something else, just in case.’

    "Over half-a-dozen countries are now offering a citizenship-by-investment program, after St. Kitts and Nevis was the first country to do so in the early 1980s. Malta, for example, has raised $1 billion through June 2019 following the launch of their program last decade. The Carribean territory of Dominica has raised over $350 million in five years."
     
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  3. Old Geezer

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  4. poltiregist

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    In a local newspaper . Rental U haul trucks piling up in the Ozarks . The trucks are being rented one way " coming in " but not for leaving . All the company spaces full and now are filling up other lots that have been rented to hold the trucks . Property being bought by the wanta be preppers as soon as it hits the market . I choose my alamo carefully years ago . This new panicked insurgency will not have time to properly prepare before this spiral downward escalates into something never seen before in modern ages . Actually they are buying up most any property they can find and as our forum members know , not just any property is suitable from a preppers standpoint . Teotwawki is entering the birth canal .
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    Mexican human traffic gangs helping IMU cells here in the USA to re-unite with family members. In this case insufficient help was provided.

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...tani-migrant-rescued-from-texas-border-river/

    "A Del Rio Sector Border Patrol agent rescued an Uzbekistani woman with the help of an Air and Marine Operations agent. The woman appeared to be in danger of drowning in the Rio Grande."

    https://www.counterextremism.com/threat/islamic-movement-uzbekistan

    "The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) is an internationally designated terrorist organization founded in 1998 with the goal of overthrowing the Uzbek government and replacing it with an Islamic state.* The IMU long pledged its allegiance to al-Qaeda and the Taliban, but in 2015, the group’s emir and most of its fighters publicly shifted their affiliation to ISIS. Dissident factions, however, continued to assert fidelity to their longstanding patrons.*

    "The group was created in Afghanistan, receiving sanctuary from the Taliban government, and was initially based in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan.* The group received support early on from the Taliban and reportedly from Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency as well.* The IMU has attracted recruits from Central Asia, South Asia, Europe, Africa, China, Russia, and the Philippines.*

    "The IMU has conducted attacks across the region, targeting both civilians, community leaders, and security forces in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.* These attacks include kidnapping, suicide bombings, and other operations coordinated with the Taliban, al-Qaeda, Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), and later ISIS."

    https://onenewsnow.com/national-sec...-affirms-terrorists-pour-into-us-near-el-paso

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-plot-westerners-mexico-border
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  6. Old Geezer

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    Metastatic cancer grows in the state of Georgia.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...0-per-ticket-rock-the-runoff-virtual-concert/

    "With the Senate majority leadership but two seats away, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has declared, 'Now we take Georgia, and then we change America.' Now failed Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams is leading an effort to win both seats, teaming with a group of Hollywood entertainers, including NBC’s The Voice star and singer John Legend and actor-rapper Common for a “Rock the Runoff” get out the vote concert.

    "Stacey Abrams, who lost her 2018 election by more than 50,000 votes and refused to concede, will be joined by Legend and Common, and others for a December 3 concert to raise money for the two Democrat candidates for U.S. Senate that face a runoff election on January 5."

    Nov. 2017:
    https://www.independentsentinel.com...t-blasted-his-anti-assimilation-visa-program/

    "The New York City radical Islamic terrorist who killed eight people and injured eleven others on Tuesday came into the United States on Schumer’s random diversity lottery program."

    Anti-American, anti-Christ, Charles Schumer threatens supreme court justices:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...kavanaugh-and-gorsuch-they-will-pay-the-price

    “'I want to tell you, Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Gorsuch, you have unleashed a whirlwind, and you will pay the price,' Schumer said as the judges hear opening arguments on the case Wednesday. 'You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.'”
     
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Crank-up the invasion.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16795/biden-administration-border-security

    Don't worry, be happy. The cartels, MS-13, the human traffickers will take care of the details, don't worry your little heads.

    https://chicagocrusader.com/latino-gang-vigilantes-targeting-blacks-in-neighborhoods/

    https://www.africanglobe.net/headlines/mexican-gangs-drive-black-families-southern-california/

    African Globe, hmmm, is this publication owned by Breitbart?

    Hispanics helping their African-American neighbors for some time now.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...california-are-terrorizing-and-killing-blacks

    Keeping people's houses warm -- wow, what a kind-hearted crew!

    https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content...s-nine-years-for-ramona-gardens-firebombings/

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  8. Old Geezer

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    Trump taking out what trash he can gather up before the White House is taken over by the anti-Americans.

    https://www.newsmax.com/us/gangs/2020/11/27/id/999062/

    "El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras have brought criminal charges against more than 700 members of cross-border criminal organizations, primarily the MS-13 and 18th Street gangs, in a U.S.-assisted effort, the U.S. Department of Justice said on Friday.

    "The charges resulted from a one-week coordinated law enforcement action under Operation Regional Shield (ORS), a DOJ-led initiative to combat transnational organized crime that brings together authorities from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico and the United States.


    "Tackling transnational human smuggling networks and gangs, including MS-13, is a top priority for U.S. President Donald Trump.

    "Prosecutors in El Salvador this week filed criminal charges against 1,152 members of organized crime groups in the country, primarily MS-13 and 18th Street gangs, the statement said.

    "The national civil police captured 572 of the defendants on charges involving terrorism, murder, extortion, kidnapping, money laundering, human trafficking and human smuggling, among others.

    "In Guatemala, authorities executed 80 search warrants, arrested 40 individuals and served 29 arrest warrants against people already in custody, all of whom are members of the 18th Street gang and MS-13, the DOJ said. Guatemalan authorities seized drugs and a firearm, and filed charges for extortion, illicit association, conspiracy to commit murder and extortive obstruction.

    "In Honduras, the one-week joint operation resulted in the arrest of over 75 MS-13 and 18th Street gang members and five police officers and the execution of over 10 search warrants.

    "© 2020 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved."
     
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  9. Old Geezer

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...s-trump-says-election-unlikely-constitutional

    "After a Pennsylvania Judge blocked the state from 'taking any further steps' to complete the certification of the presidential race on Wednesday - she dropped a detailed opinion on Friday justifying her decision, which concludes that the state's changes to mail-in balloting procedures were likely illegal.

    "Commonwealth Judge Patricia McCullough noted in her opinion that the plaintiffs 'have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits' of the case, because 'the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for the expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment.'"
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  10. poltiregist

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    Last night traveling through the Ozarks with my new breeding milk goat buck , I passed a U-haul truck pulling a car . Later we both stopped at the same gas station to refuel . They were pulling a car with a Florida tag . I was amused as the refugees stepped out into the cold mountain air in shorts and one proclaimed we may as well get used to this cold . Another load of wanna be preppers that likely don't have time to properly prepare . However I don't blame them for trying to survive the collapse .
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    lets hope they were preppers and not just some refugees from the city.
     
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  12. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Poltiregist,

    An "E" for effort is an important first step in Prepping.

    If those Florida folks make it all the best to them and the area's society.

    If they fail, they are still better situated than stuck in Florida when Hades happens.

    ......

    Read about the great event with new goat. Your timing's perfect. Hopefully you're rested up somewhat from that 10 hour trip.
     
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  13. Max rigger

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    The USA won't collapse, its going to face a lot of peed off folk but it won't collapse.

    Now is the time to put politics aside and start working together to dislodge the wedge Trump has driven deep into the fabric of America and put the country back on the global map.

    If your a prepper you'll have all your supplies and plans in place so step back and get some social coherence brewing; if it hits the fan then off you go in full prepper mode, in the meantime work together.
     
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  14. Pragmatist

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    Good evening Max,

    Of course NOT the literal type of collapse. It's a term used here as a figure of speech.

    Some believe Trump is the greatest reformer President since FDR. I am one of these believers.

    It's difficult to impossible to have social coherence with those with values and belief systems requiring public funds.

    I personally do not deal with those who have children without a husband and no means of financial support.

    Max, without being sarcastic or rude, you just do not know what is going on in the US.
     
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      Once we take back out country from the liberal socialist and welfare leaches, then and only then will I consider putting politics aside, since I won't have to worry about my children and grand children's future. The scum will be cleansed.
       
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  15. poltiregist

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    I have no intention of working with my fellow citizens . I will simply hunker down and watch the world collapse around me . As a prepper I don't need them " they need me " . Possibly I might reach out to help a person in need if that doesn't jeopardize my groups survival , But that I consider optional . ---- As for as the comment on the United States won't collapse , at this point that comment is akin to what the citizens of Venezuela thought . From the third richest country on the planet they have become a collapsed country that have ate all their dogs and cats . I could write quite a lengthy post on why the United States followed by the rest of the planet WILL collapse but I will leave that to a member that likes to post lengthy posts .
     
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  16. Old Geezer

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    America has collapsed before, it will collapse again.

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    "Now is the time to put politics aside and start working together to dislodge the wedge Trump has driven deep into the fabric of America and put the country back on the global map."

    The above quote is an example of scripted speech handed-out by the international collectivists.

    Soros-speech: "Submit or be deemed a racist and lose your job! Take a knee or watch your family be destroyed! Submit!"

    Here is the behavior of "progressive" peace-lovers:





    Most decent human beings do not compromise with people unable to control their glandular behaviors.

    Americans are arming-up. Ammunition gets sold-out at gun stores as soon as it hits the shelves. The redistrubutionists are going to march down the wrong streets and are going to get shot. So far Antifa and BLM have attacked sissy neighborhoods. When they do that in Heartland America, they will bleed for their efforts.

    When the government-kited welfare checks go meaningless, watch the former USA burn. It will be the same for all Western nations. Cut off the money-pumps, cut off the electricity, BOOM! out come the looters and arsonists.

    London experienced a trifling of violence during the 2011 riots. Birmingham, Bristol, Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Liverpool, Manchester, Nottingham, West Bromwich, and Wolverhampton also got to have a taste of the festivities. The year 2011 in England was only a portent of that which is to come.

    The Jewish people who couldn't imagine any Holocaust ever occurring perished. Those who understood true human nature got out, got their families out, and lived.

    Human technology has greatly improved in the last ten thousand years. Human nature today is exactly what it was ten thousand years ago.
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  18. watcherchris

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    Max Rigger....

    What are you possibly thinking....here..


    It is the left which has driven a wedge into the very fabric of America....over and over and over ad predictable nausea.


    Race, Sex, Sexual orientation, politics of entitlement while someone else pays for it with their earnings....

    All of these indexes have become divisive on the backs of thinking Americans.

    Advanced Victimization politics....leading to entitlement beliefs....for votes...


    Defining ones self by race...sex, sexual orientation.....all victimization indexes used to polarize groups for votes...

    BLM and ANTIFA.....manufacturing a group of bad guys....and then going after them with violence...backed by the left and their pimps in the Main Stream Media....which itself is an extension of the left...

    All these groups and indexes have been used to divide and polarize America and Americans..

    And it is the Left which has used and misused the blame game to drive their wedge in the fabric of America and what it means to be an American.

    The Left only has politics of division and the blame game...and their solution is more Ishmaelite bondage...particularly economic bondage...of giving more options to some while others pay for it..take risks for it.


    The Left is the origins of divisive politics and leadership....higher taxation and Biden has so openly declared...
    And the whole time this happens the phony Right will be silent..

    What are you thinking..????

    You think no one notices or knows any history.


    Ishmaelites run wild...


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  19. Old Geezer

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/resurfaced-photo-psaki-biden-soviet-union

    "Jen Psaki, who was named to serve as President-elect Biden's White House press secretary, is facing fresh scrutiny over a photo that shows her wearing a Russian hat that bears the communist hammer-and-sickle logo.

    "Psaki, who served in former President Obama's State Department, was gifted the pink shapka, or fur hat, by her then-counterpart, spokesperson Maria Zakharova, in Russia. A photo from 2014 shows Psaki wearing the hat while posing with then-Secretary of State John Kerry, who has been appointed to serve as Biden's "climate czar," and Zakharova."

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  20. watcherchris

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    We have much much bigger problems out here than Russia....and I think someone is working overtime to have us keep their eye on Russia so as not to notice the real problems out here.

    Someone out here is selling we and our Children into Socialism...an early form of dictatorship.....leading to Communism in it's various forms....

    I know what it is to take serious serious risks for my monies...none of thoee people in the photos give me the impression that they know how to take risks for anything...

    We are about to move faster and faster into a "Non Representative" government.


    And I still suspect that someone is working Russia as the new bad guys so that we take our eyes off China...and that Putin wants something from us..and Trump..but this is being avoided by trying to keep these two apart..

    I think that Trump and Putin are fighting the same internationalists..and that this is a secret the Deep State does not want out.


    I also think that in this Syria business....something went on there in which our Deep State and their pimps in the Media do not want us to know...resulting in our pulling our troops out....by Trump.

    I also think this is one of the reasons for Trump wanting our troops out of many wars around the globe.......and parts of the world...I am in agreement with Trump on this.


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  21. Dalewick

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    Max Rigger...May you live in interesting times. In Europe.

    The media controls the narrative and the left controls the media. America is breaking at the seams and the middle ground is getting divided. We are already in a SHTF situation and headed to what regrettably may be far worse. America is already living in interesting times.

    Dale

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    This can come faster than we think.
     
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  22. Alaskajohn

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    Neither the wolves nor the sheep expect what's coming. As that famous song says, at best they are "only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air."

    The world has already changed and no one is coming to save you.
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    Mother Nature throws hideously psychotic curve-balls.
     
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  24. Old Geezer

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    The gods of oligarchy know how to crush descent and bust employee organizing. Kamala's oligarch armies are practicing-up; soon they will be greatly deepening their war on human Liberty. Keep buying the ammo -- looks like it's gonna be a long-haul.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/2/22047383/google-spied-workers-before-firing-labor-complaint

    "Google violated US labor laws by spying on workers who were organizing employee protests, then firing two of them, according to a complaint filed by the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) today.

    "The complaint names two employees, Laurence Berland and Kathryn Spiers, both of whom were fired by the company in late 2019 in connection with employee activism. Berland was organizing against Google’s decision to work with IRI Consultants, a firm widely known for its anti-union efforts, when he was let go for reviewing other employees’ calendars. Now, the NLRB has found Google’s policy against employees looking at certain coworkers’ calendars is unlawful.

    "Several other employees were fired in the wake of the protests, but the NLRB found that only the terminations of Berland and Spiers violated labor laws."
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Another chapter in the current American Civil War II; liberals continue their killings in their efforts to burn the United States Constitution. Veterans continue to give their lives to preserve Liberty even as elections are subverted by international communism.

    https://jamestown.org/program/antif...violence-syrian-connections-and-sub-cultures/

    "Antifa’s Denver Shooting: New Trends in Left-Wing Political Violence, Syrian Connections, and Sub-cultures"
     
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  26. Old Geezer

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    In 1992 Los Angeles, brave Korean-American business owners set the standard in how to deal with armed packs of savages. Aggression must be met with return fire. When it hits the fan and the redistributionists take to the streets with their violence, they must be dropped.




    Who are the real bigots:

    https://www.wiesenthal.com/assets/pdf/new-swc-report-farrakhan.pdf
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  27. watcherchris

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    Been thinking about this kins of thing for a long long time now...

    new-swc-report-farrakhan.pdf (wiesenthal.com)

    This business of "White Pivilege/White Guilt.".

    To me what it amounts to is a very craftily molded form of Officializing or making into an Institution a a subsidy...a official price support....

    They are trying to form shame and guilt into a government program...to officialize their form of Racism...to fight racism.

    And using schools of higher learning to so do...as is the case with so much today...Experts.....people with degrees trying to gaslight you ....into their power and control....to herd your thoughts..

    Farrakhan is only one of them cashing in on their form of racism....but in true leftist form...using racism to cure racism...it is demonic in it's true nature..

    They are trying to make this official nationwide policy ...make white privilege/white guilt as acceptable nation wide...and hoping/thinking no one will catch on to what they are doing.

    In years past this used to be called in some corridors....a change agent....a change in policy...method....modus operandi..but the goal is always more Herding....more limits on your ability to think and react..binders if you will.

    And they have now progressed to using guilt and shame... to herd people....and very craftily done...

    Be Warned the Ishmaelites...

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  28. watcherchris

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    By Alaska John....


    Interesting ...very interesting in consideration of your Avatar....six digits.

    Thank you,

    Watcherchris
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  29. Old Geezer

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    What's wrong with six digits? Haven't you heard the old phrase, "He couldn't count to twelve on both hands."
     
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  30. Pragmatist

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    Had thought Alaska John's avatar was a memorial tribute to Wilhelm Rontgen or the Frau.
     
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  31. poltiregist

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    Remember how the jews were treated under the regeim of Adolph Hitler ! It appears the Democrat party wants to repeat this time in history . This time they are after those terrible White People " . They obviously have White Privelege as their rallying cry , as those white people seem to always prosper . They have the odasity to marry and raise their kids in a secure home and teach them to have morrals and compassion . That is not acceptable by the gun grabbing , anti- christian and immoral of this world . --- There is so much hattred that no doubt some would love to see World War two style Germany consentration camps set up to imprison Freedom loving Trump Supporters . -- Regardless of what transpires into reality , we can be assured dark days are ahead . The time of the prepper has arrived . --- That ridiculous sounding plan my group cooked up a few months ago for us to have our own airplane and pilot is now not seeming such a for fetched idea .
     
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  32. Old Geezer

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    Hexadactylism

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  33. Old Geezer

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    One wonders if hexadectylism would help with playing the 12-string guitar.

    Still, I don't believe anyone could out-perform Leo Kottke on the 12-string.

    How few guitar players there are who can play and accompany themselves at the same time. Witness a gift from God:



    The man is 80 yr old and still has it.


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  34. Alaskajohn

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    For opsec I removed my old avatar a few months ago. Not sure why I went with this one other than because it is odd, but it’s probably temporary. On a more technical note, I am curious how a 6 fingered person could even give anyone the middle finger? The poor fellow is missing out on his ability to fully express himself. :)
     
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  35. Old Geezer

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    "I am curious how a 6 fingered person could even give anyone the middle finger"

    That one got me laughing!

    There's polydactyly. I looked through the following images and didn't find or overlooked anyone with seven fingers. (What is not funny is when people have developmental issues wherein blood vessel configurations go wrong, very wrong. Tetralogy of Fallot is decidedly not humorous.)

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=polydactyly&atb=v140-1&iax=images&ia=images
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  36. Alaskajohn

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    Strange how an new avatar can derail a thread!

    I had the chance to see Leo play in Hawaii in the 70s and he was joined onstage by some of the Hawaiian slack key notables. He was very gracious in his onstage dialogue with the Hawaiian guitarists stating how much his style and sound “borrowed” from the kī hōʻalu. It was a memorable concert.

    Speaking of fingers, Django Reinhardt certainly showed how you can play great music with a few less fingers than others!

    I need to change my avatar quick before I derail more threads!
     
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      Sorry if any of my silly observations buggered the thread. My mind continually races. Images and thoughts scream through my head. When employed to find product flaws (electronics and software), I was just the fellow. "How did you find that defect?! Who would have thought about that?! You must be one very odd person!" Yes. And too, Pragmatist is much to blame, so I'll point the finger at him. I was "triggered" -- isn't that the excuse of the day in Amerika. Avatar: Alaska being one rather large & beautiful state and having critters of every variety, images abound among which you have to pick. Maybe too many choices. My avatar comes from me being old, stubborn, and always having a rifle near me. I have a .308 sitting behind me right now. Never kin tell when some bear could invade the homestead.
       
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    I dated a lovely young lady that had hands like that. Holding hands with her was...interesting because she had the outside covered on both sides and it just felt wrong somehow. Other than that she had no other oddities other than being exceptionally well endowed and sweet.
     
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    My mom was born with two normal hands. As a child, she broke a little finger off to the side. Her dad, my Pap, wouldn't or couldn't afford a doctor to set her finger; plus, a journey to a town would have been a journey and they had no cars back in that holler. Therefore, my mom's finger healed that way and stuck out to the side the rest of her life. She was very pretty, so my dad little noticed it.
     
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    Gun control dictates from an invalid government will start skirmishes and get a bunch of people killed; however, when an invalid regime begins forcing God-fearing taxpayers to fund the murder of babies, such is the stuff of war.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...lifornia-ag-xavier-becerra-for-hhs-secretary/

    "In response to Joe Biden’s reported choice of Becerra for HHS secretary, the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser said Biden is selecting an 'extremist on abortion':

    "'Becerra is aggressively pro-abortion and a foe of free speech. As attorney general of California, he continued what his predecessor Kamala Harris started by persecuting citizen journalists who exposed Planned Parenthood’s role in baby parts trafficking. Not only that, he went all the way to the Supreme Court to try to force California’s pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise and refer for abortion – a policy the Court rejected as unconstitutional. In Congress, he even voted in favor of partial-birth abortion.'"

    https://www.lifenews.com/2020/11/13...tive-orders-force-americans-to-fund-abortion/

    Kamala and Joe, leaders of the death machine, wag their prideful tales.

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    This breaks down easy enough. Biden is a lame duck President from day one if he is sworn in. His dumbass executive orders are NOT LAW!!! If he can convince some dumb ass agency head to try the things he is saying he's going to do, he is violating the current laws and they will get their ass shot off. I might be wrong but I believe we deplorables own most of the guns and ammo as well as the majority of combat training and experience.

    If the majority sit on there ass and let the government take there property illegally, then they do not deserve the freedoms they claim to love so much.

    I'm at an age where a life sentence or death, just isn't the deterrent it used to be. What's so bad about seeing what comes next?

    Dale
     
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    https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/portland-protesters-smashed-windows-of-church-that-helps-homeless/

    Saint André Bessette Church has windows bashed out. Down the street, people throw things out of windows at this group. @fox12oregon pic.twitter.com/YVknkdlbFL

    — Brenna Kelly (@BrennaKellyNews) November 5, 2020

    "Rioters in Portland smashed up a local church that helps the homeless and mentally ill — as well as a feminist and LGBTQ-friendly fashion store.

    “'Saint Andre Bessette Church is one of the many buildings that had their windows broken out during this evening’s riot,' the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office tweeted early Thursday.

    “'This organization helps those who are homeless, experiencing poverty, mental health issues and substance abuse,' the force said.

    "Photos showed all the windows in a row of doors smashed at the church, while Fox12 Oregon reporter Brenna Kelly filmed the smashed-up church with loud chants of 'Black lives matter!' still in the background."

    https://angelusnews.com/news/nation...ers-say-demanding-expanded-church-attendance/

    More than 400 flag-waving, rosary-toting demonstrators huddled outside the Oregon Capitol Nov. 28 to press against state coronavirus limits on church attendance.

    "Despite a pewter sky and frigid temperatures, the largely Catholic crowd enthusiastically declared an even deeper mission: Stop marginalizing faith from public life.

    "'We will not surrender one more centimeter of religious freedom to any government,' said Father Theodore Lange, chaplain of the Oregon Knights of Columbus.

    "Hundreds of Vietnamese Catholics attended.

    "'We are here today to speak in one voice: Stop the religious repression,' said Young Tran, a refugee from Vietnam and a member of Our Lady of La Vang Parish in Happy Valley, Oregon. 'It happened in our former country, a communist and a socialist country, and it's starting to happen here now.'

    "The Vietnamese group sang a song of faith and freedom for the crowd, which applauded the offering with vigor.

    "'We never thought that when we escaped from Vietnam that we would be persecuted here in the United States,' said Father Ansgar Pham, pastor of Our Lady of La Vang. 'That is really painful.'"

    Old Geezer sez: It makes my blood boil when I read of people escaping communism to come to a republic only to be met with communism in the coming USSA.

    I hope the God-fearing people get out of Portland before God removes it from the face of the Earth.

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    Earthquakes gives you dey shakes!
    https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/27/portland-earthquake-gales-creek-fault-activity/

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    update on a Couple of posts I put on this thread concerning the mass migration in the United States . Today I received a report from one of my survival group members , A U Haul facility he saw that normally has 5 0r 6 U haul trucks in its yard now has about fifty . People or desperately trying to duplicate what my group has achieved . Unfortunately there simply isn't enough time now for them to likely be able to achieve their prepper dream . I walked out of my previous house , locked the door and began building my present survival retreat in the year 2005 . I never asked or received one dime from my previous house and had it burned to the ground a few months ago . I take prepping serious and to achieve what we now have built took years and a group effort by me and my wife and kids . I may be arrogant but to be honest I worry whether me being on this forum is partly causing this insurgency . As of right now there are 5 members and 86 guests . I enjoy connecting with fellow preppers but I will have to seriously consider disappearing in an effort to slow down the flood of refugees coming into my area .
     
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    Good morning Poltiregist,

    These domestic "refugee" flows from the decaying urban areas to more ideal rural areas are just normal events that already started. It's still only a small sliver of the population.

    Consider the large employers' allowing for the use of telecommuting. The big cities are expensive for young people and difficult for the young to start a family. Taxes are again going up in the cities and this still yields bad schools, overprived housing and little safety.

    Here, in Tidewater Virginia which includes much of the Northern Virginia Autonomous Oblast, the nice area looked at and researched is West Virginia. Many from here are researching relocation to "Almost Heaven".

    My view is neutral. Those who are knowledgeable and open to learning will relocate and "make it" with small Prepper groups forming. Most newcomers won't succeed.

    I see the start of this when it was decided to rehabilitate Washington, D.C. circa the era of Obama.

    As long as newcomers - contribute - to a region's community and not welfare recipients, it's part of the American psyche to move "out West".

    Do hope that you stay here at MSF.COM.
     
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      No, No...WV sucks as a location and just won't work. Terrible place to come to......
       
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    https://copblaster.wordpress.com/20...in-contempt-by-federal-judge-marco-hernandez/

    It is my hope that the overwhelming majority of police officers will leave these cities in in which peaceful protesters loot and burn. I hope that these officers find employment in the real America, Heartland America. As far as I am concerned, I'd have these honorable civil servants as my neighbors.

    If a person who supports the anti-Christ movement were starving, I'd not even sprinkle sugar on their doorsteps so that they could lick it up. May their eyes fall back into their skulls.

    Cities where Leftists rule must be allowed to self-annihilate. Leftist refugees from those cities must be blocked. Zero aid and zero mercy must be allotted them. These people voted-in their anti-Christ situation and should therefore live with it, live with Antifa aggression and BLM aggression. If they die, they die. It is not the concern of the faithful that those who murder babies and curse God are lost.
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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    The domestic "refugees" - both leftists and the others on the political spectrum - actually cast ballets with little meaning, if any meaning at all. Most all of the process is rigged from who the candidates are to what referendums get on the ballot to how the referrandum is worded.

    Even the Sandanistas - Senator Tavarish Bernie Sanders' devout followers - as leftist as they make 'em - are just products of the rigged electorial system allowing for the "schools" to mold their opinions. Dealing only with a couple of Sandanistas , when I SHOW them that Medicare is not free nor of good quality, they convert.

    The BLM orgs and gangs (both exist) are a little different to discuss. Blacks of good citizenship live in fear of the thugs controlling their neighborhoods. There are national political blocs keeping it this way.

    Recently in Virginia, this voting situation got worse. Last month we had a ballot referendum that - effectively - removes private citizens from working on redistricting of electorial districts. Again, the system is rigged.

    I see the broad national trend as eliminating private citizen participation in politics. I envision jury trials to fade away. Taxation is de facto run by the Federal Reserve Bank. I can predict ... won't use word "forecast" ... Forecast is too accurate a concept ... what happens when large and rich companies are forced to load up their corporate governing boards and managements with outsider appointees.

    There is a reason the US citizenry is experiencing a declining standard of living.
     
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    we are beginning to see in the UK a trickle but not a flood of people leaving the cities for more rural areas, this is not because they are preppers or anything like that but purely because they are getting out of the large population areas that have had increased infection rates from Covid.
    these are not the "huddled masses" but people with more money than your average house buyer, consequently they are buying the larger modern upmarket properties that are well away from any normal country village or hamlet. usually on the coast rather than deep in the countryside.
     
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      Getting really bad back home for me. Any house on the market, poof! it's gone. A son lives there and he confirms. Outsiders moving in. Like you say, not in droves; but, this sure as sh## buggers our plans to move back home. I'm living in an agricultural area / little town (was industrial but that's now all but dead), yet I'd fit in a whole lot better back home. Or, is it "home" anymore? When visiting, I'm not recognizing the place. I'm seeing plastic creepy-people there. Yuck. Zombie freaking apocalypse. Wife looking deeper into rural county real estate, total mountainous areas.
       
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    by Pragmatist,

    Agree Pragmatist and it took me some time to realize the import of what was happening..by this Modus Operandi.

    The method of Taxation takes money from the Private Sector..controls the M factor in the private sector...not the government sector.

    The overall effect of this is control and regulation of the private sector of the economy.


    This has today morphed into a system of control and regulation of thinking....vocabulary, and then conduct...and eventually religion..

    This because to the controllers and regulator, via taxation, the average American is a competitor to government largess...ie....politics....

    And Politics has itself morphed into a Private Fiefdom over this country....not representation of the people/competitors per se...but a dual system which needs be hidden and concealed from the eyes and soul of those it is intended to effect...in essence an Occult hidden concealed duality...Feudalism....dual systems...and trying o come out in the open with it now...

    I believe this is one reason both the Republicans and Democrats do not like Trump....for he is close to exposing this occult dual system and cutting heavily into their control/power....and fleecing of this nation and people.

    Hegel...the state is god..


    Be warned the Ishmaelites.

    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite
     
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    Good afternoon Watcherchris,

    Well received.

    So true: a private fiefdom.

    I remember when SecState Hillary had a Manhattan party. She declared it a diplomatic reception. This allowed her private fiefdom, the State Dept to pay for the par ....... er ... the diplomatic reception.
     
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    Portland Antifa attack police. Police run away.



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    This is why citizens need shotguns. If the police run away, then it is up to you to take-out the savages when they begin demanding that you abandon your homes to them.

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    "Make Them Pay": Michigan Lawmaker Calls On Leftist Soldiers To Attack "Trumpers"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...wmaker-calls-leftist-soldiers-attack-trumpers

    "In a three-minute video posted to her Facebook page, the Democrat from Detroit said 'This is just a warning to you Trumpers... be careful. Tread lightly. We ain't playin' with you...'"

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    "Johnson then added 'And for those of you who are soldiers... you know how to do it. Do it right. Be in order. Make them pay.'"
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