Do You Have Certain People You Are Going To Bug Out With

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  1. Blitz

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    What I mean is, in the event that everything turns to mud, do you have a list of certain people that you will "invite" to join you, and if so, why?

    For example, I would only entertain certain people who I know would be useful. I'm not talking about sons, daughters, young people and the like that you have a duty of care over, I'm talking about other people, such as really good friends, and older relatives you perhaps don't see on regular basis.

    Hope I'm making sense.

    I personally have a few people.

    My brother who is really good at negotiating and calming people, because he's logical, rational but also reasonable and empathetic with an upbeat look on life. He's a good cerebral problem solver.

    A good friend who is a fireman (for obvious reasons).

    Another friend who is a policeman (for more obvious reasons).

    A friend who is a "fix it" person. He can fix any motor vehicle, including building one which he did when he was 16, can work out how to put anything together, fashion anything out of anything, and is very practically minded.

    Just wondering if anyone else thinks like this. In other words, they have to have some sort of attribute or skill to bring to the table.
     
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  2. lonewolf

    lonewolf Moderator Staff Member
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    NO....
     
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  3. watcherchris

    watcherchris Master Survivalist
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    I don't think I need to be responding to such an question with operational details on a public forum.

    Do we have a rat in the nest or is this an example of a public education at work??? Ishmaelites??

    You folks make up your own mind.


    Watcherchris
    Not an Ishmaelite
     
  4. lonewolf

    lonewolf Moderator Staff Member
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    simple question, no one asked for names and addresses.
     
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  5. lonewolf

    lonewolf Moderator Staff Member
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    that's a different question.
     
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  6. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Blitz,

    Already involved in this, because:

    I have both a co-op, a cooperative purchasing org for economies of scale and a NGO within the emergency management community.

    Two of our folks own restaurants and work the food and kitchen supplies. Another member is a retired dentist and one is a mariner.

    Yes, I think like this, but no, attributes and skills are not the major criteria for my planning.
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    none of which will be functioning post collapse.
    better if there were some gardeners and farmers on that list.
     
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  8. Pragmatist

    Pragmatist Master Survivalist
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    Good morning Lonewolf,

    Food supplies are abundant here. So far, in major emergencies and disasters (calibrated to other area organizations), my co-op functioned. Never ran out of water, coffee and all else on inventories.

    If my NGO does not function, neither will other orgs, less public sector and private sector critical infrastructure staffed orgs.

    There will be no farming, gardening, fishing or hunting in this area.
     
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  9. lonewolf

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    and no food once the normal supplies run out and are not replaced.
    it wont take long for the system to collapse once the supplies stop coming.
     
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  10. Pragmatist

    Pragmatist Master Survivalist
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    This is true.

    However, my personal shelf life is less than my share of the container's food inventory based on stress environment consumption patterns (eg much coffee consumption).

    MOST IMPORTANT to me in RX pharma such as the annual high octane senior citizen influenza vaccine.

    There are horses and livestock around here. Once the metro area sewers stop functioning, the mosquitoes declare victory.

    There's loads of food here and had started a mini-MASH clinic. Without the pharma, ... my obituary already sent to son in law. Sidebar; I had a 20 ft dental trailer here for a time but the county added some regulation that all rolling stock trailers must be stored in some outrageous and expensive way. I am not writing clearly because all this is still, overall, current events and must keep cloudy.
     
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  11. Caribou

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    Two very old friends will be invited. Neither would survive without help.
     
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  12. varuna

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    Only my gf. And my bugging out plan is to checking in to the nearest hotel in unaffected town / city. However if I sufficiently deemed she is out of danger, then I'm bugging out to relative places (which is something I had done before for real)
     
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  13. TMT Tactical

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    Nope, being a hermit type, I don't have anybody aside from family, that I know and would trust. Casual friends do not qualify for when it hits the fan. Our group will be family only.
     
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  14. Justin Baker

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    Well..... the long and short of it is no.... There was a family that used to be part of my plans, but they have changed the way they live and are no longer part of my plan. I still care, but they have grown away from me and are no longer as like-minded. So no, currently, the only people in my area that prep are so far not people I associate with... I would prefer a co-existance with others, but alas, it is not currently the plan.
     
  15. lonewolf

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    groups in the UK will be family units only, no one from the outside.
    I prefer a remote and isolated existence post collapse, I don't trust other people.
    I have had some good friends in the past but they are not preppers and they live in a city and have no plans to leave.
     
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  16. howler

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    i dont know any other preppers near me so its a no , cheers jas
     
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  17. howler

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    i dont know any other preppers near me so its a no , cheers jas
     
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  18. Brownbear

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    I'm a me and my immediate small family group. I subscribe to the theory of smaller lightly equipped groups having better survival chances.
     
  19. Rebecca

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    I also fall into the group of no, there is no one outside my husband and I that I would think about taking with. I don't know any preppers close by, and if it's got so bad we have to leave, casual friends are not part of the plan.
     
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  20. Blitz

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    Thanks everyone for the posts.

    I notice there's only two members who entertain the idea of being with others if the SHTF. I find this interesting as being a social species, I personally think there can be strength in numbers, for a variety of reasons. I also noticed the lack of trust in interacting with others. Not sure if that's a cultural thing, or a reflection on social interactions. Interesting anyway.
     
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  21. poltiregist

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    One of the reasons I am not interested in attracting people outside my 10 person family group is that I prep a lot for the entire group . I don't take for granted they will have what they will need if electric power is lost permanently and I am talking about forever . My son just gave me an update on our ram pump project from the spring behind his house , " pumping one litter every 35 seconds ". In other words I don't just prep for one or two people . I do - do things to set my neighbors up for a better chance of survival but that just consists of three houses on a dead end road and even that generosity has a short limit . One reason of my generosity to my neighbors is if things got bad enough I would hope they would agree to blockade the entire road off from the outside world . I just don't plan to save the world . As for as the bugging out part of this thread . I have already done that . Were just fortifying and have dug in for whatever is thrown our way .
     
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  22. Rebecca

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    As an explanation of my "nobody else" response, for me personally there are a few reasons.

    First and foremost is trust. In a full on SHTF, WROL, TEOTWAWKI ..whatever you want to call it.. event. You would need to be able to trust the people around you and traveling with you with your life. I don't find that an exaggeration. And the number of people I trust that much can be counted on one hand...with fingers to spare.

    Second is resources. Have I stored enough food to invite Billy and Andy and Jessica to join us simply because I like them? Every single one extra takes food, medicine, water away from my husband and I. So Billy fixes cars, but when there is no more fuel what is Billy contributing for the resources he is using? Resources that are finite and potentially irreplaceable. So each person needs many attributes. If Billy fixes cars but can't light a campfire with a carton of matchsticks and an entire day. I am not interested in Billy.

    I guess this all sounds very cold and evil. But I prep to survive, not to save everyone I know. That is simply not possible. And survival also means not surrounding myself with people who may turn on me or get me killed in other ways.
    And besides I am the hermit type to borrow TMT's term (is there a female version of the word hermit?)
     
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      Definition of hermit


      1a: one that retires from society and lives in solitude especially for religious reasons : RECLUSE

      Gender neutral.
       
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  23. lonewolf

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    there is a reason why I don't have other people, one is TRUST, the other is survival rates, in a country where 99% of people do not have emergency supplies of any kind the survival rate is not going to be very high, I expect to be alone with my family in the event of a large disaster so that is what I plan for.
    its a waste of time planning to be around other people that have no chance of survival.
    most people don't have the knowledge of how to survive, the lack of knowledge and the crazy answers to questions is mind boggling.
     
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  24. Blitz

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    I understand what you're saying. Luckily for me, I have friends that I have known since God was a boy and have more than proved their worth and trust. I have been away with all of the people on my list on bare bones situations, some of which have been quite hairy to say the least, which is another atttribute regarding who copes and who doesn't.

    With regards to resources, all my group would contribute, probably more than me if I'm honest, given my age. It's not a case of them taking from me, it's a case of each contributing for the good of the collective.

    Regarding your anology of "Billy", my "Billy" is not just capable of fixing cars, my "Billy" is capable of whatever you put in front of him, in a calm, logical way. My "Billy" in fact lived off the grid in the middle of nowhere for around 10 years, so he's well versed in the sort of requirements that would be necessary should the SHTF. As an aside, I've found with a number of mechanical engineers I've met through my years, that they all possessed an inner capability not just reserved for mechanics. But that's for another topic.

    In a nutshell, I am 200% confident in my group and have no hesitation whatsoever in relying on them in a survival situation. I certainly don't include them purely as "friends" and am certainly not including them to try and "save" them. They are extremely good assets, as is my dog. It seems I must be luckier than most, to which I'm very grateful and blessed.
     
  25. TexDanm

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    YES. I ave a group of people that plan to gather in the event of a disaster. We have done so already a couple of times when hurricanes caused long term lights out and such. For one thing, there is safety in numbers. We are ALL well-armed and country folks with each having various skills that will make functioning as a group more secure than any single or couple of people could have. One person trying to do everything is vulnerable in so many ways. You can't watch your own back. If you are injured you have no help and everything that needs to be done doesn't get done. While you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket you also don't want to just have one egg or one chicken either.

    My people are friends that have become family and we do all the holidays together. Having a group is sort of like any insurance. I hope that it never happens but if I were to die in a catastrophic disaster I want my loved ones to survive and not be alone. My preparations are just another form of life and casualty insurance to protect my family.
     
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  26. Blitz

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    Exactly ;)
     
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