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    Here's a handgun idea for your car -- especially if you live in one of those areas where rivers of orcs surround cars, begin breaking out windows and beating civilized humans.

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    I like the thread tittle. While I don't have any specific models of firearms I want, I do have specific caliber wants. I plan much later in the year to get a semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun. A 22-250 bolt action rifle and if the 6mm ARC lives up to the hype, an AR15 in that caliber. A lever action rifle (Henry) in 44 mag and a pistol to match. That will pretty much end my firearm purchases. I will then shift to a saving for a NV scope and a decent Thermal monocular.
     
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    LOL LOL LOL...Olde Geezer....

    I never had much use for those Tech 9 looking gadgets....never cared for them.

    I have however seen and read the GI Manual for the M3 Machine gun/Grease Gun my father had...very impressive.

    M3 submachine gun - Wikipedia

    Also here in Newport News near the James River there is the War Memorial Museum in which they have on cased display various small arms of the world wars. Of interest to me was the display of the German WW2 MP 40 machine gun...

    MP 40 - Wikipedia

    IN this display was also a diagram...an exploded diagram of the internal parts and workings of the MP 40 9mm machine gun.

    I was quite shocked at how complex it is compared to the American M3 Grease Gun.



    I don't recall if I have previously posted this about Kimber...

    Some time last year...I made the mistake in stopping up in the mountains outside of Waynsboro....in a little country store....
    To my surprise in the back was a gun store......big mistake......looking around..


    I spotted in the case two Kimber .45 ACP handguns.

    I fell immediately in love with this beauty......began foaming..frothing at the mouth with desire when handling her..

    Kimber America | Custom TLE II

    I brought her home and have shot her less than 100 rounds.

    She is a very good shooter..but to my initial surprise I discovered she will not feed cast bullets as does my 1911 Charles Daley.

    Carefully disassembling both firearms side by side demonstrated to me the difference.

    The Kimber is clearly a tighter overall fit...tolerances and such. Even the slide stop pin holding the works together is noticeably tighter than my Charles Daley.

    And my Charles Daley has clearly been worked tighter than a standard Colt Government 1911....but no where near as tight a fit as the Kimber.

    And this accounts for the difference in price...the very fit of the parts.

    The Kimber is hardly broken in as of yet....been very busy here...not much time for shooting.

    Same with the .308 Ruger Precision Rifle I bought...not much time for shooting her though I finally got around to mounting on her some glass with several bubble levels to aid the process.

    I continue to reload when I can get the time....but not much time for the gun club...

    Soon enough I will make up the difference.

    But it is now clear to me the difference in the two .45 ACP pistols and thus the price.


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      That Kimber American is an out'n'out dream girl!
      I too hate sub-guns. Once saw a Czech sub in .32 auto.
      Distant cousin (dead now, worked the steel mills, lung issues) brought home a "liberated" slap'n'banger from Vietnam. I would have been sort'a afraid to fire it -- could see weld marks, beyond poor quality. On the other side of the Pacific, tin-hut illegal manufacturing ops crank-out sub-guns by the thousands.
      The rioters surrounding cars presents a real issue for urbanites who could find themselves caught in a 3rd-world situation. I wish Reginald Denny had had a sub and >four sticks.
       
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    When I was in high school, a guy wanted to sell me a 22-250 for deer hunting. I told him that to legally hunt deer, you'd need >= .24 cal. Of course a lot of folk just shoot deer for food on their land or some uncle's land. Warden's don't get notified and besides the meat is in the freezer day after next.

    I've never had a center-fire varmint rifle. In the mountain pastures, people like my cousins just use .22 magnum rifles to kill groundhogs. There's just not much truly long-range shooting in S.Appalachia. And from where my kin come from, maybe a family only has a cow. Can't raise much cattle up in the hollers; thus mountain pastures. Ground hawg holes break the legs of cattle and horses. Can't have that. Family ate groundhog; yuck!, very gamey. Varmints make for great dogfood for your huntin' hounds, happy-happy dogs.
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    Shooting groundhogs in Kentucky, was where I learned to love the 22-250. Very flat shooting and very forgiving on misjudged distance. The farmers / ranchers loved to let me remove some of these critters. I do admit, I never collected the dead critters but left them to the wildlife to clean up.
     
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    The buzzards know what to do.

    Famous Far Side cartoon:

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    Are you a sea-faring soul and could run into pirate problems? Live near or on the beach and have burglar or looter problems? How about a shotgun built to endure salty-situations!

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    Olde Geezer,

    Me too..

    Reloading taught me to make my shots count...black powder shooting as well.

    I learned quickly how stupid it was to spend a lot of time reloading and then shoot it all up in a couple of minutes....then repeat the cycle. Hollywood and movies....wow!!

    If I want to shoot a lot at sub machine gun ranges....12 gauge Mossberg Pump will suffice.

    And Ammo costs serious monies...now days...even reloading supplies.


    I do so like an accurate firearm...pistol or rifle.

    My ultimate pistol for accuracy is a Thompson Contender .22 long rifle 14 inch Match barrel...

    Next a Ruger Government .22 Target Pistol.

    Also the Thompson Contender 14 inch scoped barrel in 7mm TCU. You have to make your own ammo for this calibration as it is no longer sold in stores. You open up a .223 case to 7mm/284 cal. and use 120 to 130 grain spire point bullets.

    I like sitting down on the bench relaxing and taking my time....making my shots count...not just making a lot of noise.


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    Good morning Old Geezer,

    Subj: The multi-functional use of above anti-corrosion tools;

    Usually I don't comment on the weaponry posts since no longer follow the subject. Having ophthalmology and optical medical "issues" keeps me away from some vision required stuff. No complaints; my medical "issues" all anticipated.

    Besides the above pictured machines used for ordnance projectiles. I know 2 of the 3 pictured have additional uses. They can launch flares and, with an attachment, launch a line. The line need not be used only for SAR but also, for example, placing a fishing net.

    It's been 2 decades but as a congtractor taught a class on transportation security at Defense Security Institute, DGSC, Richmond. Someone asked me if a contractor truck with a DOD cargo under contractual "AGS" Armed Guard Surveillance, can have a driver and assistant "riding shotgun" (an appropriate term) armed with the Rem 870 series 18" barrel. Someone else in the class said they were soon to be illegal in Virginia for private citizens to possess. All the rest as to who/what is a private citizen, I referred them elsewhere.

    Can't elaborate on our inflatable but can say we here don't worry about pirates or related criminals. Our headache is using maintenance supplies and OPSEC.
     
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    How odd! You are not alone. Great mystery is afoot. What could this be?!

    California banned these sorts of firearms and then overnight, these metallic objects lept off the very planet. It must have been some sort of "assault rifle" rapture. :eek:

    We live in strange days.
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    awesome gun porn, i'm excited... :)

    if i could afford it i would get a Colt AR-15 in 5.56 for 2 legged critters...
     
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    I love North American Arms (NAA) mini-revolvers. Got one in .22 mag. Very often it is my totally unnoticeable perpetual pocket piece when lazying about the house.

    Are these revolvers too puny in power? In .22 LR, they are little more than a sound prop. In .22 mag. they are very damaging to the felon -- and to your hearing ability, i.e. deafening. Even in a derringer, the .22 mag will shoot through a fire log (as proven to my dad in the 1960s, I watched a business associate of my dad demonstrating the derringer out back of an establishment, Dad had won this or an equally-valued rifle on a punch-board game, told my dad to take the rifle). Decades later I put a .22 mag HP round through a pressure treated 2"x 4". Mossad Ayoob considered the .22 mag a "nasty little cartridge". I prefer my larger caliber handguns (even for home carry); however, you know that you are carrying one of them. The mini-revolver's presence I cannot detect; I have to check my pocket. It'll work to horribly wound/stall a felon (rips meat) until you can get to your shotgun.

    Panic buying by the unprepared has sent the price of "I want one of those" firearms into the stratosphere.

    Due to muzzle-flip you will REQUIRE fatter grips than those provided by NAA. Also, the fatter grips make the tiny revolver fit just-so in the palm of your hand. It feels good. I've held the revolver in my hand for the purpose of deriving the "gosh this just feels good!" effect. The aim of the inherently inaccurate revolver is also mightily improved. With the large grips, I can shoot an identifiable group and thus determine the Kentucky windage I'll need to impose during an emergency situation. My revolver shoots massively low and off to the left. My correction-factor (Kentucky windage) puts all shots center mass out to 20 feet. I routinely practice aiming it.

    There are now holsters available that make these puppies fit into your pocket or waistband VERY comfortably. Your holster if of the flat type MUST NOT have a hole for your trigger finger. Why? I know for a fact that the BATF long ago deemed the trigger-finger hole being against Federal firearms regulations -- don't even ask me about the Feds "reasoning" :confused:.

    Selection of grips available:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=NAA+mini-...0-1&df=w&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&pn=1

    This revolver has the grips I have on my revolver. The revolver shown is just a .22 LR (a totally inadequate round) and the barrel is too short. My revolver is in .22 Mag (get-by caliber) and has longer barrel.
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    Selection of holsters available:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=NAA+mini-revolver+holsters&atb=v140-1&df=w&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

    Paul Harrell tests these little revolvers in both .22 LR and in .22 Mag. Paul makes some very valuable points during his presentation. Paul's videos are always a go-to source for me (and hundreds of thousands of others. The fellow is a straight-shooter in more ways than one. If ever there was an authority figure in the realm of firearm knowledge, Paul's the fellow.


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    NAA .22 mag ballistic testing. This is an informative video



    In the next video, the poor idiot doesn't get around to shooting his target until over two and a half minutes into the video. His analysis of bullet expansion is sad. What IS of value is that the .22 mag splats a gallon jug and the bullet goes raggedly sharp, i.e. it does damage. In such a puny revolver, that is something.



    Next video is some testing of the .22 mag cartridge out a Ruger LCR which is a small very lightweight double-action revolver. The Ruger LCR is larger than the NAA mini, yet the LCR is quite light; they run around one pound. The NAA mini revolvers only weigh seven (7) ounces.



    Ruger LCR product lineup (the .327 Mag will shoot .32 HR mag. cartridges):

    https://ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html

    North American Arms lineup:

    Rangers
    https://northamericanarms.com/produ...der-ranger-ii/ranger-ii-sidewinder-ranger-ii/

    Sidewinders
    https://northamericanarms.com/produ...er-ranger-ii/sidewinder-sidewinder-ranger-ii/

    Ruger LCR in .22 mag specifications
    https://ruger.com/products/lcr/specSheets/5414.html

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    Paul Harrell the fellow who has a shooting site on YouTube (seen in above video), had a run-in with a mean drunk while camping. The psych-case attacker drove through Harrell's campfire then started to drive his truck into Harrell's parked truck. Harrell's wife was standing behind his truck -- aaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

    Harrell killed the idiot -- lead poisoning. Initially he was charged with manslaughter, but was freed when the police investigation was complete.

    https://www.wallowa.com/news/harrel...cle_b148a9a9-2280-5ca8-968f-3e7a84fcdc1a.html

    Ladies and gentlemen, a pickup truck is a ton and a half plus of mega-deadly-weapon.

    I'm glad that Harrell was able to kill this monster before it was able to seriously injure or kill his wife.

    Campgrounds and wilderness areas "out beyond the cities" can be crazy places due to crazy people.

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    if I'm talking wishes...

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    A pump shotgun for those on a budget

    Almost all preppers have owned firearms for years/decades. Should you be looking for a first shotgun or in need or a backup shotgun, all you may need is a non-elegant, get-the-job done, pump 12-gauge. For survival purposes, the shotgun will have to have an at-least 6-shot tube magazine. Pumps often come with a restricting magazine plug. All this is, basically, is a wood dowel rod with an O-ring to hold it in place. For home/neighborhood defense, take this out. You are going to need as much ammo in the tube as possible. Looters/home-invaders come in swarms.

    The Mossberg "Maverick" mod. 88 is an inexpensive pump shotgun in which you may be interested. Barrels for the m88 are interchangeable with barrels used by their model 500. They have any kind of barrel configuration imaginable.

    Here's a video testing-out the Maverick 88. Everybody loves Hickok45 -- the guy is "good people" and likes to have fun at the range. Other presenters will likely give you more technical data, but Hickok is a hoot. He says that the shotgun goes for two hundred dollars -- not any more, especially with the panic-buying going on. Side-note, Hickok stands at around 6 1/2 feet tall.



    Mossberg makes their firearms in the great state of Texas.
    https://www.click2houston.com/featu...-family-owned-firearm-manufacturer-in-the-us/

    Mossberg pump shotgun lineup of varying models

    Maverick-88 Go to the link below, then select the "Models" tab. This page has the specifications for each variation of the m88 and will show you the many configurations of the m88. Click on a model number to see technical spec.s on each variation. The m88 comes on both 20 ga and 12 ga.

    https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/maverick-88/

    All pumps offered by Mossberg
    https://www.mossberg.com/firearms/shotguns/pump-action-shotguns/

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    For those wishing shorter barrel BUT more ammo, consider a tube extension. Adding a few inches to the tube can provide another shell or two.
     
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    By Olde Geezer...


    I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 upstairs in my radio room/man cave. I have on it a folding stock but keep the solid stock close for hunting...

    The barrel on this Maverick 88 is the short house barrel .. ....but...a trip to Bass Pro and I purchased the vent rib Mossberg Hunting length barrel for it with the three screw in chokes. Fit nicely ..first time every time!!!

    Plan eventually to do this as well for my Ithaca Model 37 police gun...which is the other 12 gauge I keep around for home security.

    I verily like the Mossberg shotgun in 12 gauge.

    Oh...and this model 37 Ithaca is one of the older models...not the newly remade ones of today. This Model 37 will slam fire...just hold down the trigger and keep pumping...

    I do not recommend this in a 12 gauge as it is very difficult to keep ahold of the pump mechanism when doing a slam fire from the hip...and this Ithaca kicks bad...from both ends..hard buttstock on it....ouch!!!!


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    Does the folding stock's small butt-plate make for worse recoil? I have no firearm whatsoever that has a folding stock nor have I ever fired a shotgun with a folding stock.

    The only major gripe I have with Mossberg shotguns is that the slide-action rattles. I've taken a Mossy apart and peened metal parts, expanding them a touch to decrease rattle. I avoid making anything too tight, else you lose the glass-slick rapid fire. But a rattle in the slide rattles my nerves. Sometimes you wanna let somebody know that if they do not reverse course they're gonna killed for their efforts. Most-times I like to go about very quietly.

    I'll peen military sights if there is any play in them. Sights must be by-god firm.

    When I wrote the Moss88 pump post, I was thinking about some store owner or suburbanite who could be making their first firearm purchase. Now that store owners are getting looted or firebombed out of existence by peaceful progressives, what can they just grab'n'buy? I think that the pump shotgun is best. How does a person with little training turn back mega-aggressive brainless throngs? It has to involve filling the air with lots of lead. With a shotgun, you can shoot a concrete floor or street pavement with either large birdshot or small buckshot and ricochet the lead up into the legs of the quasi-humans.

    Center-fire rifles send bullets out that do not drop energy at distance. For looters, you need "here to there" energies. Even buckshot drops energy quickly.

    For home defense, most folk are on a budget and a pump shotgun sure gets the job done. Really, a handgun's #1 purpose is to give you time to get to a real weapon, such as a shotgun.
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