If You Cannot Be Trusted With Your Guns......,.....

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  1. watcherchris

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    Interesting things going on among leadership...,..

    Biden gun rule being drafted to effectively ban private sales: ATF whistleblowers (msn.com)

    Also....this is interesting too...

    Democrats Push Bill Requiring Insurers to Report Homeowners Who Own Guns (msn.com)


    Very interesting particularly if you can think past ESPN and or the Kardashians...or also the MSM.

    "If you cannot be trusted with your gun/guns...your opinions, your children, your monies....et al....what would make us dumb enough to think we will ever be trusted with a vote???"


    Remember something else as well....

    Who is one of the biggest if not the very biggest arms and weapons dealers in the world.....

    Our own government of course.

    And we give a lot of weapons to nations who wind up turning them on their own people.


    Someone is trying to legislate their way around the 2nd Amendment....and have it ...like the other limits on government...to be in name only.


    Notice something else as well....


    gun deaths in the statistics of 2022...

    20,138
    The estimated number of firearm deaths, excluding suicides, in 2022


    Now...watch here the number of overdose deaths...in 2022


    U.S. Recorded Nearly 110,000 Overdose Deaths in 2022

    U.S. Recorded Nearly 110,000 Overdose Deaths in 2022 - The New York Times (nytimes.com)


    Are you seeing a distinctive problem with the priorities of leadership in this country????

    Don't misunderstand me here...I am not justifying gun violence...but herein the thinking and priorities of leadership.

    Remember...overdose deaths are a right protected by the Constitution ...and gun/arms ownership is not so protected....

    Correct?????

    I smell an Ishmaelite ...


    Watcherchris...

    Not an Ishmaelite.



















     
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  2. watcherchris

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    Be warned these Ishmaelites in leadership positions.

    Watcherchris
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  3. Old Geezer

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    Gov would-be gods have waited a bit too late.

    Economy shutting down. Citizens fearing digital dollar. Citizens putting back cash, precious metal circulated US coins (Pre-1965), ammo is available and folk are buying it, one outdoor shop I frequent usually has one to three gun purchase customers waiting on a criminal background check at a time. Gun shows back to doing rapid business. (Post covid B.S. and all that).

    Firearm manufacturers in New England moving South. S&W moving to Tennessee. Factory being build now. Remington moving to Georgia. Military aircraft moving out of California to Heartland Virginia where 95 county sheriffs marched on state capitol Richmond to declare that they will deputize citizens in opposition to "assault weapons" ban attempts by the Democratic Socialists.

    Hey kids, things are royally warming-up.
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    I had not realized how many firearms manufacturers are pulling up stakes up north and moving/re setting stakes into southern states...until I caught s news item last night on U Tube....about another company pulling up stakes.

    They are become disgusted with the economic and social situation in northern states.

    To me this is all part of a bigger Ishmaelite.plan which is going to spell chaos between now and the election....major chaos..

    For I believe it is the very very best todays leadership can do in both Political parties of fakes.

    Chaos.

    There are times when it seems like any and everything but for the American people.


    Watcherchris..

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    by the way......on a not so directly related topic line....but more indirectly related....

    Have the members here ...noted something for which I am detecting...


    And that is....these farmer/trucker strikes/protests seem to be spreading...world wide....

    Curious about this.


    Is it possible that more and more people and even businesses are reacting to the awareness that they have a Non Representative government representing anyone and anything but the people of their country.????

    Curious about the thoughts of the members on this.

    Thanks

    Watcherchris
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  6. Old Geezer

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    And, it's not just firearms manufacturers.

    The current ruling against Trump has made big business not want to have a presence in New York. The court ruled that if a company overestimates the value of assets -- real estate ... whatever -- when applying for a loan from a bank, then they can be prosecuted. ALL businesses do this. What idiot would cheapen / dumb-down / get some down-to-a-penny estimate on their assets. It is up to the loaning bank to estimate the true values of the applicants assets. This is Business 101. In the case of Trump, he paid-back all of his loans with the money made by the companies enabled/created by the loans. Again, this stuff is how businesses do business. Trump was attacked by a politically-motivated / weaponized judicial system in New York.

    Put yourself in the shoes of a business manager who has a record of donating money to politicians out of favor with the political machine in New York. Would you start a company there?! Would you want to keep an existing company of your's in New York?! You'd be brain-damaged if you did! No, you are laying off your workers and moving to another state where the taxes are lower, the unions aren't run by organized crime, the locals are aching to get jobs, and where the state's judicial system isn't politically weaponized.

    New York just shot itself in the foot. Good.

    If anybody out there is holding stocks in New York real estate companies, dump them right now!

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  7. watcherchris

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    Ishmaeites run wild......for any0ne and anything but the American People....

    Americans and America last place...

    Seems to me that many of the people in the big leftist cities are catching on...with the handouts to the Illegals....more than the native Americans get.


    By the way....

    I am reading a book by Nesta Webster wherein he talks about the fall of the British Empire and how it was done over time.

    Amazon.com: Surrender of an Empire: 9780913022078: Webster, Nesta H.: Books

    And in Nest Webster's book...he talks about attempts to build a United States of Europe..with the idea going back to the middle to late 1800s.

    And also how to build a United States of the World.

    One of the ways to do this is to tear down borders and that is one of the goals..a one world money sysem....ie....electronic...a one world religion....one language...a lingua frank....

    But it came to me that without borders...this is what is going on in Europe, the UK and also now here in America with all these Illegals. That these same one worlders are running this program.

    That borders and nationalism are an anathema to them.

    That this is one of the steps to a one world system...getting rid of borders and letting in all kinds of other people...

    That this is the goal....from way back in the late 1800s....one world...the Novus Ordo Seclorum..


    And this is a fallen Ishmaelite system....and I believe a system in which our leaders are conning us into financing .....to our demise as a nation and people.

    For I am certain that the liberties and freedoms under this one world system will be a far cry from what we now enjoy.


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Watcherchris
     
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  8. watcherchris

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    Remember this kind of stupid....particularly from educated people.....people with letters next to their names.....talk about dumb...professional stupidity.


    Now think about this trend....particularly as our intellectual, enlightened, gnostic wise men in leadership tend towards pushing Americans into this very kind of Herd....

    Now to illustrate..I am given..told that this is the new world order plan for everyone ...everything..


    "You will own nothing and be happy."



    Klaus Schwab Says - You Will Own Nothing In 10 Years | Armstrong Economics

    and again here..

    You'll own nothing and be happy - Wikipedia


    Now...here is the problem with this kind of Ishmaelite thinking...,.bondage....


    The very premise of our Constitution and even the Declaration of Independence is Persuit of Happiness...and this ...interpreted over the years and taught as "the private ownership of property."


    Thus you see that the new world order structure is very much against the structure of our form of government.

    This is bondage...and thus=Ishmaelite/Ishmael.

    This is also unlimited Government....it is not limited government.

    One does not need a PHD to figure this out. A simple understanding and or knowledge of History will suffice.


    Do not be "Gaslighted" by this kind of pseudo intellectual thinking. It is totally against our American way of thinking and form of government.

    Also be very very aware of our own leadership who will sell our very souls to this kind of unlimited government...and to force us into such.

    Be very very careful of this kind of United Nations internationalist one world thinking.
    It is not the product advertised...

    Be Warned these Ishmaelites

    Watcherchris
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  9. Old Geezer

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    As a prepper, following rules can get you, your spouse, and your children killed.

    Terrorist attack 1983 Beirut, Lebanon; Marine barracks attacked; circa 250 soldiers killed by a truck bomb

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings

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    Early on a Sunday morning, October 23, 1983, two truck bombs struck buildings in Beirut, Lebanon, housing American and French service members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon (MNF), a military peacekeeping operation during the Lebanese Civil War. The attack killed 307 people: 241 U.S. and 58 French military personnel, six civilians, and two attackers.

    The first suicide bomber detonated a truck bomb at the building serving as a barracks for the 1st Battalion 8th Marines (Battalion Landing Team – BLT 1/8) of the 2nd Marine Division, killing 220 marines, 18 sailors and three soldiers, making this incident the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima in World War II and the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Armed Forces since the first day of the Tet Offensive in the Vietnam War.[1][2] Another 128 Americans were wounded in the blast. 13 later died of their injuries, and they are counted among the number who died. ...
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    Essentially, the marines were murdered by the operation area ROE (rules of engagement). Crew-served weapons were not to be loaded, i.e. machine gun positions were left naked. A machine-gun crew cannot instantly load a belt of .50 cal ammo into this machine in under 5 seconds ... if you have 5 seconds. Had the weapon some large box magazine (think WWII, BAR, .30 Ball, 20 rnd.s) one could just rack the bolt, then be ready to open up on the attackers. To cut a truck such that you immobilize it, you must have at least one of these .50 cal Ma Deuces ready to engage.

    Again, if she hasn't any belt already installed, then she is of no use, because a speeding truck gives a crew no time to get her operational.

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    "The M2 .50 caliber machine gun is an automatic, belt-fed, recoil-operated, air-cooled, crew-operated machine gun."

    https://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/M2.html

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    DOD commission report on the attack:

    https://irp.fas.org/threat/beirut-1983.pdf

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    America and the rest of the Western nations are committing suicide by following laws.

    Those in power of these nations are owned by globalists who wish the annihilation of Western civilization.

    Don't you be just another good-as-dead lemming. Do what you have to do to survive.

    Me, I'm an old man and am as good as dead. Thus, I can semi-openly give this advice.

    If you are young, take on the character of the "everyday Joe". NEVER tell others about your core politics, nor any details about your weaponry and other prep supplies such as food storage. "Loose lips sink ships."

    This is sometimes referred to as being the "gray man". Don't stand out; however, if you look too weak, then you WILL be attacked. Criminals and the desperate always look for an easy score. You can look both confidant and "everyday" strong working class fellow. Where I live, this is mega-easy. I live amongst the working class, to include farmers, welders, construction crews, ... . As a matter of fact, seeing some large, bearded guy wearing work clothes with a leather knife carrier (or large metal measuring tape ...) strapped in his belt means nothing here. Driving or shopping, one sees 10 or twenty a day. As I've said before, seeing 4x4 beat-up work trucks with ladder racks is the order of the day. So, just look like just another working class fellow. Living in an upper middle class, or heaven forbid, a swank neighborhood post-SHTF is a profoundly bad idea. These areas will certainly be swarmed -- think locust attack on a corn field. Can't shoot your way out of that situation.

    Here is one in-your-face example of giving yourself away: Do you have a sound-dampening set-up for your home electric generator? Generators are very loud!. Puerto Rico's last hurricane shut down their electrical grid. Many used generators. Many, if not most, had their generators stolen by gangs. The Puerto Ricans have been disarmed, thus were sitting ducks. Do you have a place to store fuel that is within an enclosure? See where I'm going with this stuff?!!!

    Enclosed, enclosed, enclosed !!!!! Post SHTF, drive-off or neutralize invaders with gunfire. You can use birdshot if you think that this will do the job of scattering. However, if it is a pack of young males, then you are going to have to get serious from the get-go. Too, post-SHTF, you will have to make some examples of what happens to raiders in your community. Being soft will be suicidal.

    Terrible? Yes and then some. There are people -- including children -- who will be depending on you for survival. Never forget this thing. Think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, ........!

    Never be conspicuous. Never be unprepared. How you accomplish these things and prep.s is totally your call.

    I wish all of our visitors a big HOWDY! I wish all of you blessings from on High to help get you through what is coming ... coming soon ... as in 2024 and 2025.

    Keep your vehicles' gas tanks full. Also keep your spare gas cans full (your spare cans/tanks should be the 5 gallon size). Plus, don't forget to buy kerosene for your lamps. Remember to safely store your re-fueling tanks (i.e. NOT in your home).

    If you must bug-out, take the back-roads. Have your pre-preparred/marked maps with you; include alternate routes on these (have your compasses w/you). Put your spare fuel cans in your pickup. Make sure your spare tires are fully inflated (ongoing). Cover the bed of your pickup. Use tarp.s. Having ladder racks and a huge tarpaulin, gives you extra space for concealment and rain-proofing. Never let your spare gas cans be seen. Look poor, but mean. Again, it's well-worn working clothes, sweat-stained cap/hat, no fancy watch, sunglasses (outdoor work type), used work boots, ... . "I'm an ordinary guy who is just passing through." A shiny new truck will stand out like a sore thumb.




     
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  10. lonewolf

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    how to make a generator quieter.....dont have a generator, dosent matter how quiet it is it still makes a noise, and unless you fit very tight black out curtains/drapes any chink of light can be seen for miles at night.
     
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    Generators would be nice to have during a temporary power outage but not during a SHTF outage. During a SHTF event a generator is just going to paint a bullseye on your home. Entitled neighbors are going to demand you let them plug into it and the thugs are going to want to steal it. The risk is not worth the reward, as you will run out of fuel for it anyway.
     
  12. Old Geezer

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    Entitled neighbors stand to get shot. I have zero qualms about taking human life if that human or humans are behaving like sub-humans. Around me live some seriously right-wing folk (I'm not radical, they are). They'll be wasting trespassers before I will.

    We do have a liberal living near us. Post-SHTF, wouldn't want to be him. During election season, he puts out all of these leftist posters, so people know where he lives. First thing, they'll take his pretty truck (work trucks are beaten-up; pretty trucks with all of their paint = could be a sissy owner / won't fight back ... or ineffectively so). He could be armed, but he will be in a distinct minority. Bad thing that.

    The black folk living nearby are conservative. Working class people are fed-up with high taxes, inflation, and the invasion of migrants supported by the Leftists. There's gonna be bloodshed.

    Seeing rebel flags and "Don't tread on me" state license plates are very common here.

    "Gadsden flag"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

    "The flag is named for Christopher Gadsden, a South Carolina delegate to the Continental Congress and brigadier general in the Continental Army[4][5] who designed the flag in 1775 during the American Revolution. He gave the flag to Commodore Esek Hopkins, and it was unfurled on the main mast of Hopkins's flagship USS Alfred on December 20, 1775. Two days later, Congress made Hopkins commander-in-chief of the Continental Navy. He adopted the Gadsden banner as his personal flag, flying it from the mainmast of the flagship while he was aboard. The Continental Marines also flew the flag during the early part of the war.

    "The flag has been described as the 'most popular symbol of the American Revolution.' Its design proclaims an assertive warning of vigilance and willingness to act in defense against coercion. This has led it to be associated with the ideas of individualism and liberty. It is often used in the United States as a symbol for libertarianism, classical liberalism, and small government; for distrust or defiance against authorities and government.

    "Beginning in 2009, the Gadsden flag was widely used as a protest symbol by protesters who supported the American Tea Party movement. It was also displayed by members of Congress at Tea Party rallies. In some cases, the flag was ruled to be a political, rather than a historic or military, symbol due to the strong Tea Party connection.

    "For historical reasons, the Gadsden flag is still popularly flown in Charleston, South Carolina, the city where Christopher Gadsden first presented the flag and where it was commonly used during the revolution, along with the blue and white crescent flag of pre-Civil War South Carolina.

    "The Gadsden flag has become a popular specialty license plate in several states. As of 2022, the following states offer the option of obtaining a Gadsden flag specialty license plate: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia."

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    If you see this license plate on a car or pickup, then just assume that person has zero qualms about fighting. They hate government. States who are fed-up with the federal government issue these license plates. Remember also that America is looking at a second civil war. The states are lining up. Over twelve states sent members of their National Guard units to support Texas in this time of the border crisis.

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      One time I shared power with a Bosnian neighbor. It was I who suggested this. He was solid. He was tough and I could easily see his discipline. Sometimes a soul is detectable. No soul, then eschew them. I could see where he'd take up arms with me. Thus, I share. Serbians ... not so much ... actually, never. A Bosnian ammunition manufacturing factory relocated to Israel. Judaism / Muslim, this didn't matter. Being intelligent and civilized does. The uncivilized are those with whom you cannot reason. Thus, the manufacturing of ammunition. I've bought both Bosnian and Israeli ammo ... one Israeli rifle.
       
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