K-bar

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  1. I.survive

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    old k-bar fighting knife made in japan. Needs a little tlc 43686FD8-DBF7-438E-95F4-C0AD80F0B3B7.jpeg
    Open to offers
     
  2. AntonyRaison

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    Never seen or heard of a Kbar out of japan, however the style of it is quiet similar..
     
  3. watcherchris

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    The US Government had at one time contracted to have the Japanese produce the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier in that country. It is not a big step to having them produce the K Bar Knife. I would venture to state that the K bar knife was produced in Japan before the M113 Armored Personnel Carriers were manufactured.

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  4. TexDanm

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    In the 50s and early 60s the Japanese filled the place that is now filled by China. After the war you had a lot of people with metal working experience and the tooling for it. They made everything for a while of very mied quality just like the stuff out of China now. I have several knives made in Japan from that time period and have found them to be made of very good steel. Probably right after the war they had a lot of leftover and salvaged steel from their ship and armor industries and so put it to use. Even today KaBar makes a lot of their knives out of old school 1095 hi-carbon steel where most have gone to stainless steel.

    One question. Is it marked K-bar. The reason I ask is because one of the things that they used to do was make things under names that were similar to the correct names of various products. I remember Bulover watches that were knockoffs for Bulova watches and such. If it is marked K-bar that is what it is. Ka-Bar is an American Company though now they have some of their stuff made overseas now.
     
  5. Old Geezer

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    My dad's brother was issued an M3 Camillus fighting knife during WWII. He was in heavy combat, Battle of the Bulge ... ; received Bronze Star (deserved the Silver, he did the dirty work for his surviving company commander who received the Silver Star). He gave me this knife when I was a boy and it is in my gun safe. In the flip-open knives I carry, I look for a blade whose top is sharpened on its top side near the point. I love everything about the M3; the bent upper quillon fits the thumb perfectly; double sharpened tip allows it to go right through muscle; flat pommel allows a surface against which to push; its rear spine is strong; keep it oiled and it slips out its scabbard almost totally silent. As a child I nearly worshiped the knife. His bayonet he gave me stank; I liked it, but it smelled really bad; I didn't ask why it stank.
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  6. AntonyRaison

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    The camillus ones I have seen :) I think that the contract for the knives at that stage where also taken by camillus to make, and kabar.. and a few other places
    I dont know about kabar being produced out of japan though.. just havent heard or seen them
     
  7. Ystranc

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    I always thought K-bar was a US brand, they're beautifully made knives wherever they come from although I tend to prefer much lighter Swedish clipper style knives.
     
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  8. AntonyRaison

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    Depends what you need the knife for.. but same here I thought kabar is a pure USA brand.. but I might be wrong.. most the kabars I seen been the usmc ones, or camilis... but hey I live in southern Africa, we hardly get anything here..
    This type of knife is designed for fighting/tatical/comabt use mostly, not to say you cannot use it for survival, or bushcraft..
    but yeah , if your desire is for a knife for pure carving then well, its going to be a lot different to this style.
     
  9. Ystranc

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    Exactly, but to me my firearms and knives are hunting tools rather then weapons. I'm in the UK which is currently a very gentle environment with very few dangerous predators (nothing dangerous to an adult) and very little civil unrest. It is also becoming more difficult to find a lawful reason to carry a fixed blade or lock knife here even if it isn't for use as a weapon.
    We all live in very different worlds while still being on the same planet.
     
  10. AntonyRaison

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    Indeed, here I never leave the house with out a good Pocket knife that can be used to defend myself and to cut just about anything I would need to.
     
  11. AntonyRaison

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    but If I am in the bush well, then its going to need to be a lot bigger alot more uses as well as self defence... So your general moras dont do much for me, but something like a becker bk2 or bk7 well that is more like What I take to the bush, and maybe a smaller bushcraft knife for the finer work.
     
  12. lonewolf

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    I grew up in an age where every male both man and boy carried a pocket knife, usually a folder,mine was what we called a jack knife with the marlin spike, I still have one for getting stones out of my car tyre treads.
    i'd love a K-bar and although they are available in the UK the price is way out of my budget.
     
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    Like I said, different worlds...although weirdly you would probably stand a higher chance of being stabbed in an inner city of the U.K. then you would out in the bush if you were to believe our national crime statistics.
    The are exceptions in the UK that allow a much larger fixed blade to be carried, basically in England and Wales you can carry something to and from a place where you would have a lawful reason to use it, be it knife, axe, machetes or a chainsaw. The point is that you would need to have a valid and legal reason (not self defence) to be in possession of whatever it was.
     
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  14. Ystranc

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    Yes LW many people in the UK still carry a folding pocket knife. They're perfectly legal if their blade is under three and a half inches and have no locking mechanism beyond a spring. :( (Pretty crap really, it even prevents multi-tools from being a legal every day knife)
    Something like a Swiss Army knife is usually acceptable but even they are likely to cause trouble if used in a public place.
     
  15. lonewolf

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    owning any knife is still legal in the UK, its when you take it out of the house that some became illegal.
    to my mind any folding knife that dosent lock is a dangerous item, but its dangerous to the user as it could come back and take your fingers off!!
    I carry a lock knife as my EDC but then I don't live in an area that has ANY knife crime.
     
  16. AntonyRaison

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    we have no strange knife laws, you can carry a machete if you like, but when going into some places they have security that will remove those things from you such as casinos and airports and such.. but for most part you can carry just about any knife you want. Firearms however need a licence.
     
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  17. TexDanm

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    Texas did away with all their silly knife laws last year. When it is legal to carry a gun it is silly to make a big deal out of a knife no matter what the size or how it's made. The funny thing is that in the end most people don't want to carry a big knife around. It is like when they passed the open carry everyone expected to see idiots with their big ole guns carried out in the open. It didn't happen. Big guns are heavy and not comfortable like a small automatic is. I haven't seen a single bowie knife on a belt yet and I'm the only person I know that has added a sword to their trucks EDC. I couldn't help it. I just love my big stickers.

    I feel BUTT NAKED if I don't have my knife. When I used to fly to Los Angeles a lot I usually mailed myself a knife and some pocket tools so I could gear up again when I got there.
     
  18. watcherchris

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    Texdanm,

    LOL LOL LOL!!!

    I carry one of these in my daily BOB in my various vehicles....

    https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-9...TF8&qid=1521731134&sr=8-4&keywords=cold+steel


    And also is carried one of these...

    https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-9...TF8&qid=1521731134&sr=8-5&keywords=cold+steel

    The trail hawk seems a bit more practical to me....and I deliberately chose one with a hammer end on one side.

    There is just something about cold steel with a sharp edge..........................................


    Thanks,
    Watcherchris
     
  19. TexDanm

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    I also am a big fan of the Trail Hawk. I carry one of these on my gun rack. I have better but it is like my truck gun and not very expensive. It is razor sharp and has been surprisingly durable. I partially polished the blade and if nothing else it is sort of attractive now.

    https://www.amazon.com/Timber-Wolf-...ie=UTF8&qid=1521736887&sr=8-41&keywords=sword

    Those cold steel training swords are brutal!!! I used to spar with a pair of them with a friend and the bruises were epic.
     
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  20. AntonyRaison

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    hahahahah. oh man, hahahah Well if it wasnt for so many car jackings and car thefts and car break ins.. I might have done the same..
    But yeah no, I dont particularly carry a bowie style type knife around , unless I am in the bush..
    But I am with you on this, I feel butt naked with out a knife on me.
     
  21. AntonyRaison

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    That trail hawk looks very cool, although I am more of a saw person over axes..
     
  22. Old Geezer

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  23. lonewolf

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    Ah yes! life in London and other multicultural "paradises"........don't you just love it? why do you think I live out in the sticks?
    I imagine one could pull out a list of similar "incidents" that happened in the US of A too.
     
  24. watcherchris

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    Lonewolf,

    I am much more aware of the Occult adage...or saying.."Ordo Ob Chao" or Order from Chaos....than is the ordinary American.

    In this case manufacture the chaos such that the new order can be brought in.

    I am also well aware of the influence of the English Crown on events and history of the UK as well as America.

    I am not speaking here of the Throne of England and the Queen...but The Crown Merchants of Olde London...the world class merchants who are today Peddling Socialism to everyone they can...via chaos manufacturing....even if it means selling to them Radical Islam...whereas they used to peddle Socialism/Communism.

    It is these Crown Merchants through the Banks of England and it's branches...the Federal Reserve Bank here...who have been meddling in our elections for years and years now.


    It is also they who have been slowly changing and altering the curriculum in our schools and colleges to teach and preach anti Americanism...and replace it with Socialist Internationalism.

    When I saw this today on Prison Planet...it spoke to what I had been thinking for some time now...that the Trump Russia Collusion was manufactured by the Crown interests to destroy Trump and Company.

    Donald Trump was not supposed to win the Presidency. The Crown Merchants were supposed to have it all under control as they have had previous Presidents...and going back over 100 years now.


    https://www.prisonplanet.com/assang...was-involved-in-plot-to-bring-down-trump.html

    Not the British Government per se...but the Crown Merchants operating through and controlling the British Government ...and Richard Steele never gave up his MI6 connections...and was called upon to give the British Government cover or deniability...in rigging this system.

    Richard Steele is and always was MI6....even in his retirement from the service.


    My .02,
    Watcherchris
     
  25. lonewolf

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    sorry you lost me there!!:confused:o_O
     
  26. watcherchris

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    Lonestar,

    No worries Lonestar..I lose a lot of Yanks as well.


    MI6 department is the military arm of the Foreign Office.

    Here in America...the CIA is the military arm of the US State Department. These two offices function very similarly for their leadership.

    And the United States has a "Special Relationship" with the British Government.

    And the British Government is subservient to the wishes of the Crown Merchants of Olde London. The Bank of England and it's subsidiaries....one of which is The Federal Reserve Bank and its subsidiaries. And with this is the American Deep State and the US State Department and the CIA...doing the bidding of their "Special Relationship " Masters.

    I strongly suspected, upon learning that Richard Steel was retired MI6, that he was a front for the British Government and thus for the Crown's interests in their Private Fiefdom...the United States of America.

    The Crown Merchants have been interfering in American politics to get their boy continually into office and have mostly succeeded until Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump appears to be the "Wild Card" for whom no one expected and or predicted would win. They were so sure of themselves as they had been rigging our elections for a long long time...since back before Teddy Roosevelt.
    Trump is not supposed to be in office.
    He has horribly upset the internationalist time tables for their progress towards internationalism/socialism world wide.

    But in true form...they are want to blame it on the Russians. I laughed at the joke. ..being played once again on the American People.

    Americans by design can be quite dumb.


    But make no mistake..the same groups are dumbing down the English people as well...it is the same template being practiced over there with you and further along then over here.

    Someone has been for many many years trying to turn us into Englishmen and Continentals.
    To get us to give up and cede our Americanism and take up internationalism....or Socialism if you prefer.


    Thanks,
    Orangetom
     
  27. arctic bill

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    I always have my folding pocket buck knife with me , it is great 7f5a1d274294c35df2134d156ce50dd2.jpeg
     
  28. Keith H.

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    Carrying any knife in public is illegal in Australia, unless you can prove you have a valid reason for carrying it. A valid reason does NOT include self defence. I think this applies only to work type knives such as Stanley or pocket knives. I think fixed blades are illegal in public places.
    Keith.
     
  29. Bishop

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    Are you telling me the story of crocodile Dundee is a lie.
     
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  30. TexDanm

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    That is just sad. When the laws are more to protect the criminals from the innocent protecting themselves than the other way around the government is nothing more than a boil on the ass of its people. A good person can carry a knife or gun forever and unless attacked will NEVER harm anyone with it.

    I carried a Buck 110 for a couple of decades and could pop it open with my thumb and a flick of my wrist like it was a switchblade. It also made an excellent weapon in the closed position. Hit someone in the forehead or temple with the butt end of it and they would drop like you shot them.
     
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  31. Keith H.

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    Well not the part where he is in America, & life was a little easier back when this movie was made:)

    Quite a few people get attacked & killed by crocs over here, some people seem to be so ignorant.
    Keith.
     
  32. TexDanm

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    AND your government protects them too...
     
  33. Keith H.

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    Yes, it seems to be getting worse over here since the firearms confiscation. Home invasion, rape, muggings, car jackings, shootings. Right now both Australia & America are in the news regarding how much better it is in Australia. Total bullshit Tex. We have been left defenceless with the governments anti-self defence laws. There are not less guns in Australia, sales have been steadily climbing since the Port Arthur shootings debacle & the following gun confiscation. They confiscated our semi-auto bunny rifles!
    Keith.
     
  34. Keith H.

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    Some crocs get killed because of people's stupidity, if they don't want to get eaten by crocs & sharks, STAY OUT OF THE WATER!!!
    Keith.
     
  35. Old Geezer

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    Royalty keeping serfs in their place. Ancient theme.
     
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  36. Old Geezer

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    Useless urbanites are attempting to crush any and all political expression by the working people possessed of common sense. I'm hoping that nuclear war or plagues will annihilate them. Large cities are cancers and should be burned-off / cut out.

    One reason preppers need to be armed is so that the useless can be allowed to die-off and not be able to take useful people down with them.
     
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  37. Keith H.

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    Absolutely OG.
    Keith.
     
  38. Tom Williams

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    Top knife is a cheap knock off of kabar made in japan after ww2 to help japan recover never used by us military the m3 in photo was army used in europe in ww2 great knife well made as kbar used in war on japan
     
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  39. TexDanm

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    That is sort of what I thought...
     
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    Some knives have multiple cutting surfaces or edges with various configurations, so each will provide distinct advantages and benefits for both utility and tactical use. I have practiced with a training Karambit knife only as a self-defense weapon.
     
  41. lonewolf

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    absolute bollocks.
     
  42. I.survive

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    So it’s a knock of?
     
  43. Henry MK

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    I use karambit knife, it is a multi-use knife which is designed for user safety, precision and efficiency. As far as I know it is one of the most effective and potentially lethal.
     
  44. gladys mwihaki

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    hello this was nice post how ever there are various or very many types of karamabit knives that you can consider using as they are associated with quality blade and quality handle check out the following models and see whether you can consider them

    1.Spyderco Karahawk
    2.Fox Karambi.
    3.Spyderco Plain Edge Karahawk.
     

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