Purchasing Medical Supplies Online

Discussion in 'First Aid and Medicine' started by TJames13, Jun 10, 2016.

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  1. TJames13

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    I've been searching on amazon for various survival supplies recently, and came across a number of really helpful medical supplies to have on hand. I saw some suture kits and staple kits and all kinds of other stuff. It got me thinking about sourcing prescription type medications and medical supplies online. Has anyone done this or have any recommendations.
     
  2. Keith H.

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    I think there is something on this forum in that regard, veterinary supplies were mentioned.
    Keith.
     
  3. TJames13

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    Yet again, something I never would have thought of but vet supplies make so much sense. The over sight for veterinary supplies is much less strict so it should be far easier to procure vet supplies. Definitely something I will look into when I have saved enough money to start investing in medical supplies. Thanks again Keith for your insight and expertise.
     
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  4. John Snort

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    There are pharmacies you can buy medical supplies from many of which only want your money. I neither can recommend nor be against buying your medical supplies online. What most people risk especially is getting addicted to the drugs they buy. So if you are buying as a prepper not for personal use, buy your meds online.
     
  5. lonewolf

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    only buy suture and staple kits if you know how to use them and are prepared to use them, otherwise its a waste of money, just buy general first aid kits in that case.
    its a bit like a vegetarian buying a gun but not wanting to kill an animal- a waste of money.
     
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  6. Keith H.

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    Agreed, I carry one in my pack, but you can close a wound without stitching. Another problem can be not cleaning the wound out properly & stitching contamination up inside.
    Keith.
     
  7. DecMikashimota

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    In any case you have to be extremely careful with purchasing medical items online. The quality grade of what you are getting might not be up to par or in some cases it can be way too potent for the normal dosage that you may be used to. Make sure that you are purchasing from a reliable source especially when it comes to prescription drugs that online retailers might promise to deliver without the need of a doctor's prescription. that is a whole other matter altogether.
     
  8. GateCrasher

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    Just got an email yesterday from shopmedvet.com, pre-Black Friday Sale going on and likely a lot more sales coming Black Friday. Highly recommend this company, sign up on their email list and you'll get some sales/coupons not available otherwise, and they don't spam you with emails too often. Some really good deals on occasion, and not just on medical supplies either. One sale item today is Cascade Dish Detergent, almost a 5 pound box for $1.99. I grabbed 10 :) Their prices on most first aid/wound care products are cheaper than at a dollar store, and a much better selection.
     
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  9. F22 Simpilot

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    Now I know where all the druggies get their needles.

    Have some good deals on gauze and what have you, but it's non-sterile.
     
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  10. Caribou

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  11. F22 Simpilot

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    Damn thing cost an arm and a leg. :D
     
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  12. GateCrasher

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    Get the sterile gauze dressings (touches the wound), save money with the non-sterile gauze bandages (holds the dressing).

    To no one in particular, search on "trays" for a number of different procedure trays at very reasonable prices. Suture, suture removal, irrigation, urinary catheter, etc. Most include some instruments that are intended to be disposable, but could be sterilized and reused. Packed in sealed, sterile, plastic bins or boxes.

    And search "kits" and for things like IV start kits, all sterile of course. Everything except the IV catheter itself, but those are available elsewhere without a Rx.

    Spend over $50 and the flat rate shipping drops to $10, over $100 and it's free I think (or maybe $5).

    Quantity:10
    DETERGENT,DISHWASHER,CASCADE,75OZ,EACH
    Price each: $1.99

    Quantity:1
    MORTAR WITH PESTLE, 320ML,EA
    Price each: $5.19

    Quantity:1
    TAPE, TRANSPARENT, SURGICAL, 1"x10YDS, 12/BOX
    Price each: $2.99

    Quantity:1
    TRAY,FOLEY CATH,SIL-ELAST,NO BAG,16FR 10ML,EA
    Price each:$3.99

    Quantity:1
    TRAY,FOLEY,SILI-ELAST,14FR,10ML,W/BAG,EA
    Price each:$9.68

    Quantity:1
    TRAY,INCISION&DRAINAGE,STERILE,EA
    Price each:$6.28

    Quantity:2
    TRAY,IRRIGATION,CONTRO-PISTON SYRINGE,EA
    Price each:$2.06

    Think Venezuela, sometimes Doctors will be available but have no supplies or equipment, so bring your own. This for after you have the basics stacked deep. And yes, Yes, YES on fish/bird antibiotics - Thomas Labs is a very trusted name and been around for decades - to go along with Dr Bones (Alton) book.
     
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  13. Snyper

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    You can buy needles and syringes at Tractor Supply.
    Most "druggies" use insulin syringes from drug stores.
     
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  14. Old Geezer

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    Farmers and ranchers have to buy antibiotics and syringes online.
    Here's a vet. medical supply company and one of their cattle antibiotics pages:

    https://www.valleyvet.com/c/livestock-supplies/cattle-health/cattle-medicine-antibiotics.html

    You'd have to due your calculations on dosaging; x.x mg/kg, x.x mcg/kg
    You can't get this wrong! Be super careful with med.s; they can save lives, they can take lives. All meds must be taken for the entire time the literature says, especially antibiotics. Screw it up and you'll be creating antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. Happens to ranchers all the time. Scary dangerous!
     
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  15. Caribou

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    The liquids have a limited shelf life. The pills can be effective for years after their expiration dates. The military has vast quantities of medication and when they started requiring expiration dates on medication they needed to know how long these medications would really be effective. It would be very costly to replace all their inventory. Basically, tablets were still at least 80% effective 10 to 15 years after their expiration date with no bad chemicals forming to poison the medication. Capsules were slightly less effective.
     
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    1. Old Geezer
      Pharmaceutical companies also create meds in powder form for reconstitution. Military uses such, but this form Rx also for xport all across planet. Say you'll get a vile w/powder, all you do is pull sterile water into syringe then shoot it into vial (watch your air pressure levels, pull back on plunger to pull out displaced air in vial). The powder mixes w/H2O. Witness dantrolene
      http://www.outpatientsurgery.net/su...ight-way-to-reconstitute-dantrolene--11-12-13
       
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    2. Old Geezer
      Rx in powder form lasts on and on. Just don't expose to extreme temps. Insulin even when in liquid state lasts longer than exp date and note this, the temperature doesn't have to be refrigerator temp. Keep insulin below 55 F. River streams are often colder than 55 F. Depending where you live, you can dig down a few feet and be at 55F. Think root cellar.
       
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  16. lonewolf

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    watch what you buy online and from where, a lot of this stuff isn't what its made out to be, buy some powdered rhino horn and it'll turn out to be talcum powder!!!:p
     
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  17. F22 Simpilot

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    And those are over the counter? I've never seen that at like a Walgreens before.
     
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  18. Snyper

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  19. GateCrasher

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    Behind the counter, but no Rx needed to purchase them in most states. "The states of NY, CT, IL, NJ, NH, DE and MN restrict the sale of syringes and needles to licensed professionals and entities.".

    100 insulin syringes, < $10 https://www.shopmedvet.com/product/6939

    Insulin syringes typically only hold 1cc/1ml and the needles are very short (0.5") intentionally, to minimize the chance of hitting a vein, and are also very thin/fragile. For comparison, the insulin syringe has the orange needle cover and the needle underneath isn't the full length of the cover. The others next to it are 1" and 1.5".

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    Something like this may be better (10ml / 1.5" needle) for more universal use, syringe holds enough that multiple injections likely wouldn't be required for a single dose of most drugs, and the needle is long and sturdy enough to reach a vein easily. https://www.shopmedvet.com/product/nipro-10ml-luer-lock-syringe-with-20g-x-1-1-2in-needle 20 cents each. They sell syringes with needles attached, or the syringes and needles separately.
     
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  20. Caribou

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    Needles and syringes are like screwdrivers, the right one for the right job. Insulin needles are for subcutaneous (just under the skin) injections. Various drugs are given SubQ. Other needles are for IV (intravenous) or IM (intramuscular). The diameter of the needle also depends on how much you want to administer and how fast. The thickness of the fluid matters also.
     
  21. lonewolf

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    cant see me needing anything like that, as per everything else, my needs are simple, first aid supplies will suffice.
     
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  22. Justin Baker

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    As with anything I buy online for stocking purposes, I ask these questions; Can I get it in Bulk? Can I store it Properly? Will I be able to Utilize it? and How long does it Last?
    -If I don't or can't grow or if I don't wildcraft the herbs I require for the medicines I make, I order them online. Some from specific companies, some from Amazon. I order the largest, freshest quantity in bulk, then immediately begin processing, labeling, and storing when it arrives.
     
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