Review Of Taurus G2c, 9mm, 12shot Mag.

Discussion in 'Show Off Your Guns' started by Old Geezer, Aug 18, 2020.

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  1. Old Geezer

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    Bought me a Taurus G2c this summer. Why? It was cheap. It was light -- my other chopped 9 is a chunk of steel and heavy. The G2c drops in your pocket. The thing fits my hand and that I think was the seller. Will I keep it? Maybe I guess. Been out to the range with it only once. I only put a couple of hundred rounds through it.

    Had a failure to feed one time and that was with 115 gr flying ashtray. The little weapon likes 147 gr bullets. Best accuracy w/147gr AND it feeds and fires the 147s without flaw (Federal JHP). Here's a takeaway: The feed ramp looks polished (or I'd have polished it before going to the range), however it looks to me to be just too steep. Certainly do NOT load one with open-nose, flying ashtrays -- it'll jam, jammed with me. It is my belief that the 147 grainers had a bullet ogive that the feed ramp likes. The 147 gr bullets liked the feed ramp and again, the Fed 147 JHPs were fairly good in the accuracy department.

    I'm NO authority on double-action pistols, but to me, this Taurus G2c has the crappiest trigger on Earth. I do not mind take-up, this trigger has lots of take-up (measured in feet I think) then you hit the "sear" which grinds sickeningly to a gritty release. Of course, the thing wasn't meant to be a target weapon. My opinion, "Oh, what the hell, it'll do." I drop this in my pocket around my house usually. I don't have or need a carry permit in the current state where I live. In a SHTF world, this thing could be better than just decent as a backup. Next take-home: I couldn't recommend it as a primary carry weapon.

    Positive points: I like the sights, white dot, they're easy to pick up. Tritium sights are available for this weapon. It fits my hand just-so. The fit was so true, that I began to lust after this Taurus (even though it is a Taurus). Price was darned good; the weapon, lifetime guaranty, and extra mag came in under $250.
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    Things I immediately replaced: Recoil spring, metal, stainless; striker guide I replaced with stainless steel from Lakeline LLC.

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    https://lakelinellc.com/shop/stainless-recoil-assembly-for-taurus-pt111-g2-stainless-finish/
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    Shooting this little puppy (after replacing factory parts I thought were inadequate) :

    Here's a photo of my using aimed fire -- 147 Fed JHP, 7 yards / 21 feet; flyer 8 o'clock:


    Here is some rapid fire standing; 115 grainers JHP stuff; 7 yrds /21 feet:


    Here's some toys I grabbed for a group photo; note the Browning HP (Belgium with final finish in Portugal; parkerized finish) lying on my Israeli Mauser (highly modified). That HP is one accurate puppy -- uber-accurate. Were I holding the Browning HP and an aggressor made the mistake of turning and looking at me, that dang pistol would let me put a bullet in his right eye or his left eye, my choice. I love that weapon. Though I've put thousands of rounds through it (?#,###?), and though it does rattle a bit, still that Browning HP is accurate, scary accurate.

     
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  2. Old Geezer

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  3. Old Geezer

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    Have had another failure to feed with this Taurus G2c.

    I'm totally disappointed.

    There's some Austrian ammunition I have that I'm sure will feed and fire in this weapon, however isn't that just the absolute pits! If one doesn't top-off the mag., it also will feed and fire -- but, why buy it in the first place, if one must compromise?!

    Polishing the ramp again has NOT worked. Not going to foist this loser handgun off onto others, just going to use the Austrian candy. Having other better weapons does not sooth the soul.
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    I have heard that Taurus has a good warranty and service dept.
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    I've heard that the Taurus repair department is very good at their job. What I'm experiencing can only be described as a design flaw, however. The feed ramp is simply too steep. The nose of the first-up, even second-up cartridge heads straight into the ramp and stops. As the magazine is emptied, subsequent cartridges feed just fine. The magazine spring tension is too high when full of cartridges and changes the angle of engagement of the bullet nose to the feed ramp. I am NOT going to make any changes to the magazine springs for this or any other handgun.

    I'm certain that cone-shaped bullets will feed. In fact, some Winchester Silvertips feed better.

    I have some ammo made by Hirtenberger. These will feed, just have to dig them out an ammo can out of a safe. Dread trying to find one brand of ammo in there. I don't just leave ammo lying around.

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    Also, I'm sure that Hornady Critical Defense ammo will feed. I have ZERO boxes of that -- nasty expensive. Whenever the crazy panic-people (who will not practice with their ammo anyway) stop their insane runs on gun shops, maybe then I'll find some Hornady and buy that. There are some gun shows coming up, but I've not memorized the dates.

    Look at the cone bullets in the following photo. The bullet is without the normal ammo's bullet ogive, its just the straight line of a cone. The opening of the Hornady bullet nose will hit the sweet-spot of the ramp. The barrel's chamber ramp and the receiver ramp section of the overall ramp in a G2c are NOT contiguous -- a gap can form there between the two. This is really bad news for the feeding of each bullet irrespective of angle of engagement (back to the spring-tension variable). FMJs will feed all day long, for they are without a hollow point. I'm sure that the cone-shaped ammo will feed well also.

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    There was at one time some brass cone FMJ ammo about -- the bullet was ALL brass, thus light. These puppies traveled at some serious velocities above 1600 fps (can't remember how fast). They were taken off the market before the year 2000. Reason was that they would defeat Kevlar vests, just sail right on through. Their looks and their concept of causing hydrostatic shock didn't impress me I guess, for I never bought any. Not paying extra money for FMJs.
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  6. TexDanm

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    I picked up a Ruger LC9s pro for a light pocket pistol. It has been a pleasure and shoots a lot better than I expected. I took my concealed handgun test with it and it grouped dead center. I had bigger handguns but just didn't see a reason to carry them. The LC9S pro has no safety other than the trigger safety and that is how I wanted it. It is a 7 plus 1 and that is plenty. For years I carried a small framed Taurus 85 5 shot 38 so 8 rounds is more than enough. That 38 didn't have a safty either. If you don't want it to go BANG don't pull the trigger.

    i have shot all sorts of ammo through it and so far have not had a single failure to extract or feed. I did break it in with several hundred FMJ rounds but after that, I use Hollow points for carry purposes. I will tell you I was resistant to the Auto pistol craze. The early ones seemed to be jamamatics with the exception of the old Colt 45 ACP. They have come a long way. The (mm has also come a long way and with some of the +P hollow points you have something that is sort of between a 38 special and a light load 357.

    When all you could get was Ball ammo the 9mm was just not much of a stop and drop them round at all. A Houston Cop emptied a Browning Highpower and was on his second mag when the guy went down. 15 hits and he was still coming!!! it would kill but when I shoot you I want you to stop trying to kill me. Even with my 38 I handloaded for it to magnum levels. The 85 Taurus is an all steel revolver and will handle that if you don't make a habit out of shooting mag loads.

    These newer Tauruses are very good guns I would send that one back and see what they could do for you. I have had great experiance with them.
     
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      After watching many real life shooting video's. I have decided to switch to a 10 mm. Like you, if I shoot somebody I want to them to drop in their tracks, not chase me around the block. One and done is my shooting moto. I currently use a 124 grn hollow point, reloaded to a top load (within reason) but I still think a 200 grn. XTP round will do a better job.
       
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  7. Old Geezer

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    Great info, thnx much! Chopped 9s, they can do what they can do and what I want a "drop in your pocket" pistol to do is buy me time to get to a real weapon (shotgun or high-powered rifle).

    You and I are kindred spirits when it comes to liking revolvers. As a kid, I saw only revolvers. Some men had .45 autos because that was the handgun they were trained to use in the military.

    Give me a .357 mag. revolver and I feel like I am armed efficiently -- especially one with adjustable sights and has been sighted-in as if it were a short rifle. Speaking of which, I feel like my family and I would be adequately protected by my 16" barrel Winchester Trapper in .357 (plus a couple/three pump shotguns in 20 ga.; handgun(s) to get to the long-guns in emergency) The Winchester carbine is fast to the shoulder, 9 rnds, very lethal, easily-aimed, weighs next to nothing, recoil next to nothing, and it is CUTE! I love its wood grain stock. Though factory issue, it fits me as if it were custom-made for me.

    Nick a humerus or a femur with a .357 out a carbine and the felon's appendage is torn loose from their body. Center mass, they're down, it's over. Ammo for .357 is designed to expand at handgun velocities, so out of a barrel over 16", they royally destroy tissue and cause lethal hydrostatic shock. Shotgun slugs do the same. Deer rifle hollow points hitting an adult human, now that is messy. (Sometimes deer rifle loads will just sail through a dog if the bullet doesn't hit a bone; if it hits a bone, a dog can get torn in half; when a youth, a friend of mine's brother-in-law killed dogs for a fee and he blew a German Shepard into halves with a 30-30.)

    I can't remember who (can't remember names just numbers / techie stuff), but a member of this site has a .41 magnum. Were one to have the .41 mag in both revolver and rifle, they'd be fit for a fight and also ready to drop deer. Me, it's the .357, however the .41 mag is the forgotten near-perfect (or outright perfect) cartridge for full-sized revolvers and handy-rifles. The men of my family loved 16 ga shotguns. Why? The 16 ga. did the job. And that's what we are talking about here.
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