Riots Haiti; Fuel Prices Set Off Riots

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  1. Old Geezer

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-and-unable-to-leave/?utm_term=.2b1e5df625fc

    Riots in Haiti have stranded several dozen Americans; many are at the Oasis Hotel in Port-au-Prince.

    The people in the hotel apparently are attempting a perimeter, however I gather that such is tenuous at best. Word is that should the rioters set the hotel on fire, the 50 or so American missionaries are going to try to make a run for it. Me, I have no idea of where it is they feel that they could be safe AND be able to get there post haste.

    We preppers need to take note of the details as the information comes in. In my own mind, I'm placing myself there and working through what options might be available to me.

    These particular riots were ostensibly triggered by the government's allowing fuel prices to rise. There's been lots of property damage and lives have been lost. It's a bit early to get all the details.

    Talk about having to send in the Marines! These Americans have no weapons and could easily become targets. Hope the Prez gets some boots on the ground. The civilians need escort to our embassy. Should they get surrounded, we'll need to lay down cover fire and dust them off. Me, I don't care how many rioters get killed -- let them go back to behaving like humans, or else ...

    All around our planet, tensions are running high. Here in the States, things are coming unglued due to the unpopularity of the current Executive Branch. I start this discussion simply to show how easily riots begin and how high the level of violence can become over a very short period of time.

    https://loveroflaughter.net/americans-trapped-in-haiti-hotel-amid-rioting/

    https://www.dw.com/en/haiti-gripped-by-deadly-riots-over-fuel-prices/a-44573713
     
  2. Keith H.

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    Frankly, I wish Australians would riot. They are just too apathetic. You could probably herd them into a gas chamber & not get a murmur from them. Pathetic.
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  3. Old Geezer

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    Obtaining gasoline

    People attempting to escape from cities will get their cars locked into mega traffic-jams. They will abandon their cars.

    When things settle-out (post die-offs), the fuel in these cars can be tapped to be used as fuel in one's own vehicle(s). EMP attacks will leave over 50% of cars and trucks still functioning (military studies). The vehicle body can act as a Faraday cage for some models of cars and trucks -- lots of vehicles will get zapped by EMP, but not all. And too, may farmers have some seriously old trucks that use distributors.

    If one needs fuel, one can simply knock a hole in a tank and get out some buckets storage cans. Near urban areas, car tanks will already be drained by gangs. Wouldn't want to go near there anyway. But if some urban losers make it out into the country a way AND haven't run out of gas, one could take their gas. Escaping urbanites are going to be stripped of all of their possessions anyway -- armed or unarmed, they are going to get wiped-out. Not your turf = BAD news buster, you're a goner!

    One item that is not in the following articles is having some fellow(s) on your 6-o'clock when "accessing" other people's vehicle fuel. You may have competitors who have zero qualms about taking human life. I don't believe that urban gangs will be properly armed (established drug-dealing motorcycle gangs will, but they are a minority). Even if gangs are armed, they haven't the skill set nor the discipline to make it in in the Heartlands. Deer hunters will be taking them out at over 200 yards ... just for target practice.

    Farmers store their own diesel fuel, so they will have reserves and not have to go out savaging. Anyone attempting to steal their fuel will be shot dead.
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=agricultu...rs&atb=v140-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

    Syphoning gasoline out of the tank of modern vehicles which have syphoning-prevention mechanisms:

    Cheap method



    "GasTapper" product $100

    12V pump operation



    https://www.walmart.com/search/?que...=sem&msclkid=5daf1b56dcaf1975fd7f7b78bdec8db9

    https://www.amazon.com/GasTapper-Gasoline-Transfer-Equipment-Vehicles/dp/B00QSPU0NS

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    Two tube positive pressure / seal the gas intake port method

    Some vehicles will allow this; many will not. Getting past a ball valve will require a smaller very stiff plastic tubing whose tip has be sliced at an angle. To get past the ball valve the tubing will often have to be twisted to get the sharp beveled end around the ball in the ball-valve mechanism.




    Getting gas out of a car via the engine's fuel rail



    Photos of different configurations of auto fuel rails

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=automobile+fuel+rail+&atb=v140-1&iax=images&ia=images

    Siphoning gas written articles

    https://preparednessadvice.com/siphoning-gasoline-newer-vehicles-without-damaging/

    https://preppingplanet.com/how-to-siphon-gas-out-of-a-newer-car/
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  5. lonewolf

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    dont see the point of fuel stabilisers, in the here and now fresh fuel is always available to purchase.
    post SHTF supplies are finite and the filling stations will be empty and not being resupplied, the fuel anyone has whether it has stabilisers or not is finite.
     
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  6. Old Geezer

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    Fuel stabilizers are for storage of fuels. I store fuel for my roto-tiller, chain saws, lawn tractor, and such.

    People will steal what they need ... and then some.

    Having storage tanks won't mean much unless you and yours have high power rifles to shoot interlopers.

    Post SHTF, stick some heads on posts around your perimeter to display your love of unwelcomed guests.

    I've nailed a dead crow near a gate. Sez property owner got bad mojo.

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