South Africa

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  1. MelissavdW27

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    Gauteng, South Africa checking in...hopefully I won't be the only one from RSA here!
     
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  2. shadowman_22

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    Your not alone in Gauteng we're here to prep for what's to come Benoni all the way
     
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  3. Arkane

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    The best prep you guys can do is get the hell out of there! like yesterday!
     
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  4. shadowman_22

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    I heard ww3 MAY kick off soon like October that's what I have heard so yeah but I'm prepping like there's no tomorrow better safe not sorry I guess
     
  5. Mekada

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    If WW3 breaks out we have stronger ties with Russia than the US so if we get drafted we might be going to Europe.
     
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  6. Mekada

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    Nevermind WW3, how do you guys go about prepping. I have a bug out bag and will be making a few more. We have unique prepping challenges as South Africans. Whatever you build outside will be stolen, we can't go 10 kilometer without running into someone, equipment is expensive and prepping is socially awkward... Thoughts?
     
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  7. lonewolf

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    first thing is OPSEC or OPerational Security, tell no one that you are a prepper or what preps you have and where they are, post SHTF they will remember what you said and come for your stash.
    prepping is still looked on in my country as being a bit "strange" almost anti social, and less than 1% of the population has any kind of stores or any skills or knowledge- other than what they do as paid employment.
    oh yeah, and trust no one, trust has to be earned not given away freely, and that goes tenfold after SHTF.
     
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  8. Mekada

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    Thank you Lonewolf. I totally agree and understand. I never thought of it that way and i guess the smaller one's circle, the better the chances of survival. I experience the same over here as people don't understand us all that well.
     
  9. lonewolf

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    I've always been a bit of a loner, so I have never bothered about what other people think, I've always kept myself to myself and done my own thing.
    I've always been happier in the countryside than in a shopping mall, "ordinary" people bore me- I have nothing in common with them.
     
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  10. Mekada

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    I wonder what the 2nd of November will bring.

     
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      Beware groups of men in funny hats, they're usually up to no good.
       
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  11. Vader

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    another South African here - gauteng Boksburg
     
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  12. Mekada

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    Welcome Vader!
     
  13. Old Tree Beard

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    Hey My Boeties, I'm a new member here and would like to greet all the "Ou Manne"....
    Started Prepping, getting ready for when the SHTF, my biggest obstacle is getting my wife on board. She has bought into this whole we are ok and the worst is she thinks it's just me being super paranoid.
    Going to be doing a couple of bush craft survival courses, hope to get my kids into it. Helps if they are not clueless if the time comes for action.

    Joined the Suid Landers Orginization a couple of days ago. See what they have on the table and see if I can slot in there and maybe make a difference when it needed the most.

    Cheers
     
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  14. Mekada

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    Sounds like a good idea! Hopefully you are working on your firearms competency...
     
  15. Bev

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    Hi guys we are from KZN...anyone else from these parts. Brand new to this and just digging into all the knowledge available. Want our kids to have skills as well...
     
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  16. Mekada

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    Welcome Bev! I am unsure... I am from NW.
     
  17. Pieter Visagie

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    Sorry I am very new here but am looking for some information and thought someone could help me please. I see the very compact survival bow from Survival Archery Systems is shipping from Stellenbosch again. Does anyone know what the local website is? I shoot a friends for a while at it shoot really good! Want to get me one.

    Any information would be great if anyone know of the SA website? Thank you very much!
     
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    Hi all
    am new on here
    I live in KZN have been prepping for some years , have just taken delivery of an ex SA Defense Force Unimog ( with long range tanks ) as a second BOV , to go with my Landcruiser ,in the USA there are plenty of remote spots to go to , for me the biggest problem is where to B O in SA , this would be a last result to leave my home, the talk of heading to the Cape seems fine , but getting there could be a problem , one would have to carry enough fuel to cover at least 1500 km , because if things are that bad fuel would not readily be available,, as to finding abandoned vehicles with fuel in ( as in D D P on TV ) will be scarce because people will not just leave a vehicle & walk , as stated in earlier posts things left even in remote places will be stolen over here,
     
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  20. Mekada

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    Firstly, Welcome! Secondly, a Unimog is awesome! Where did you find one? As a South African survivalists I know exactly what you mean. I too have racked my brain on this issue. Bugging in isn't a option for us. You know as well as I do that when the hordes come no amount of security stops them. They have numbers and a lowly form of cunning to subvert home defenses. So that leaves us with one alternative. We need mobility and your Unimog is perfect! If I were you I would convert it into a self sustainable vehicle.

    I live in Potchefstroom and I have looked at a few escape routes should the need arise. Roads are out for the most part as they will be targeted. Plan your routes through farms and bush if need be but remember that any town or township would mean certain death. KwaZulu-Natal is coastal so i would make for the water. Supply storage is also a problem as people tend to notice and security needs to be tight. I don't know about you but things seem strained at the moment.
     
  21. Mogie.366

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    I have had built in Krugersdorp back in 2015 a self contained off road caravan 2450 kg gvm the landcruiser ( SW ) has been towing this , the Mog ( was a boffel now de -armored ) will now do the towing , I will use the Mog to carry fuel & supplies , the cruiser will be used a a second B O V ( bit of an overkill ) , Down your way I have a plot in Renovaal area close to the rivers , this I have considered using as B O L as it is far away from most built up areas , I am on the coast ,the sea is about 500 mt from my front door , I recently went down to Port St Johns eastern Cape , looking at the landscape on the way ,there is hardly any hilltop that does not have some from of settlement on , a few years back there was just open land for miles in all directions , where we are in a holiday destination area , there is not a lot of problems yet , but yes things are starting to slowly have flare ups for stupid reasons, I have considered setting up a WhatsApp group for SA peppers your thoughts on this , we would all still have anonymity,
     
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  22. Mekada

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    Not a bad idea at all. Seems like you have a awesome setup! That is unfortunately the reality with our populace. They really do squat everywhere. I don't own property in remote places but I do have a friend who has a farm that is very defensible. That is my first location. Failing that I will have to make my way to the coast somehow as my uncle has a boat moored there. I was thinking about kitting out a old scrambler motorcycle as a backup the other day...my bakkie is great and everything but perhaps as a reconnaissance vehicle or rapid departure. I agree, if it doesn't happen when the EFF takes farmers land it might be when the current drought intensifies and food starts running scarce.
     
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...confiscation-white-land-without-compensation/

    I fear that the world will not support the whites of South Africa. Here in the USA, there are efforts to further develop a far-Left shadow government to replace the current administration in the event of the current conservative president being assassinated. One example: Valerie Jarrett, Obama's Democratic Socialist handler during his presidency is living with the Obama family two miles north of the White House in Washington D.C.. There, she and her superiors are readying Obama for his return to office should they succeed in creating sufficient chaos in the United States and manage to get rid of the current president. A figure-head is needed and the press keeps Obama in the limelight. What the Constitution-burners are planning is rather in-your-face.

    The above activities would shut down one of the major sources of aid to the civilized people of S.Africa should you come under attack. I so wish we could help, however the civilized world is collapsing. Come to America and help us restore civilized society! Don't move near any major urban areas here in America -- those places are doomed to burn.
     
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  25. Mekada

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    I wish i had the money to do so! I love the culture especially the South! I enjoy the music and am a firearm enthusiast. but my current salary is barely enough to keep the pot going. Prepping is especially difficult over here because of the dense population and immense crime. At the moment the best is having a bike that can move rapidly and a few days supplies. Having gone through the effort of registering a firearms also helps.
     
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    Welcome from Northern Sweden
     
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  27. Mekada

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    Sweden is a great place!
    Id love to see it one day.
     
  28. Old Geezer

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    http://www.safrpsa.org/

    Beware of communist, reverse-discrimination, groups! Can't say anything about high crime in S.Africa, because communist dogma holds minorities sacred and Caucasians responsible for all of the problems of the world. Leftist ideational patterns are a psychological disease, thus the use of rationality in any argument against them is useless. Leftists have an anti-religion religion. They are exceedingly dangerous.
    http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...osted-case-with-white-supremacist-information

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/next-refugees-for-america-white-south-africans/

    Example of African communist propaganda:
    https://mg.co.za/article/2017-02-27-donald-trump-white-victimhood-and-the-south-african-far-right/
    The above writer had to go to extreme lengths to find racist mass-murderers and the ones he did find are flagrantly psychotic.

    Australian communist rag
    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/aus...-africans-as-refugees-nears-10000-signatures/

    Situation example
    https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/were-running-out-of-whites-20170806-2

    http://www.safrpsa.org/contact-us.html

    I'm trying to find aid for S.African whites and I am having no luck. Mostly, I'm getting communist propaganda oozing out of the Leftist media.

    I'm hoping that as Western megalopolises begin to burn, Leftists will suffer annihilation, however we all know that that is just too much to hope for. I do hope their homes will be destroyed by looters ... which is to say looted by their "loving" fellow travelers. I hope they end up with zero possessions. Isn't that what communism is all about?!, leveling the playing field. I hope they get leveled.
     
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  29. Taq Noob

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    Hello from Pretoria, gauteng. New prepper/survivalist here. I hope i feel at home here cause im a bit Prep Shy. Never thought id be one but living in south africa with a family that i love so much doesnt give me a choice especially if you see whats going on around you.

    32 old white male, security business owner can barely afford rent.Life is really getting tough with everything thats going on. Thats why i prep and practice survival.

    Regards
     
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  30. AntonyRaison

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    I am new here (Joined today, as of the writing of this post) I am not a "prepper" But I am a wilderness survival" enthusiast/semi-professional
     
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  31. Old Geezer

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    I've been attempting to find information concerning getting help to whites living in S.Africa. I feel like I have failed miserably. Here in the United States, it is politically incorrect to even speak of whites being under the boot of oppression. One certainly not speak of the 7000 white farmers who have been murdered (often under unimaginably horrific circumstances) in that country.

    I call for others to provide us input as to where these folk can find aid. Also, we in Western countries need to know where we can send donations to help out with our brethren. The murdering American communist press is complicit with forces in corrupt African governments who look the other way during this unfolding situation that could easily turn into a genocide. Between the drought and the loss of high-tech farmers, the potential mass loss of life will not just be among the whites.

    Nag Noob, my prayers are with you, but I wish I could find ways to be more than just some concerned bystander! The word "frustrated" doesn't even begin to describe how I feel.
     
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  32. AntonyRaison

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    Forgot to mention I am in Johannesburg
     
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    I am not entirely sure where or how you can help, there is not really any organisation or any form of thing one can donate to, also immigrating from here is not very easy, it is very costly for us, and we kind of need a job to go to.. Things are dire for the farmers, but for the average white dude here in suburbia its Okish (well I speak for myself and its my opion for those that are working and law abiding), however we all fear civil unrest and violence and crime etc, not to mention unemployment, and affirmative action that favors others over us for skin color.. I really don't know where to direct you to assist.
     
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  34. Mekada

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  35. Old Geezer

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    Why bother with the legalities?! Looters "R" Us

    This also shows how desperate they are. They obviously have to live like mushrooms -- can't generate wealth on their own; must live off of those who can.

    If only everything that whites contributed to that region of Africa could be taken away. All European engineering should be annihilated for S.Africa. All European medical practices should cease. Let them return to the "paradise" they had before whites knew the place was there.
     
  36. AntonyRaison

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    Yup, I been listening to the news and following it.... I am not entirely sure if the constitution will infact be amended, but I think they have a committee that needs to come back by august on this. The next thing Is what Land? the farms? Farm of here is a broad definition of land both Arable and non arable. also if they using the term land loosely? or is it specific land? and who they giving it to? is the land going to the people whom have historical claim to it via it being their ancestors? how do they prove whos land is whos land? anyway... I really really worried about what is going to happen....
     
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    The actual thing that bothers me is, If the go ahead and take the land, I can almost guarantee you that the land will not go to the people they say it should, the likely will keep it to the state... The government as it stands is already sitting with about 4000 farms that they have not given to anyone....

    https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Agr...000-farms-yet-hints-at-expropriation-20170522
     
  38. Old Geezer

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    Zero self-discipline
    Zero wisdom
    Zero ability to extrapolate current position, direction, and degree of action/inaction into future benefits or consequences

    Only capable of living in the moment

    Failure, catastrophic failure, is certain.
     
  39. AntonyRaison

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    it would seem that way..
    Anyway I did some more reading into all of this, and yes it seems that this is the actual intention, for the state to own the land And lease it.... well that's what I can gather via the different news out lets etc..
    will have to see what happens, they have formed some committee that needs to come back by the End of August.
    Rates and taxes have gone up our vat increased to 15% now...
    and there area areas with in Johannesburg metro where their rates have risen as high as 500%
    everyday here is just another unbelievable news story...
     
  40. Ann

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  41. Ann

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    Hi where in KZN are you? I'm in Newcastle, and yes things are getting worrisome. I know the Suidlanders have been portrayed as extremists by the press in the past but things are getting extreme now. I have joined them and made contact with their head of communication in our area. They have set up 25 safe areas for a SHTF situation. They have groups that you can make contact with in your area as well as whattsapp
    Hi there
    Where in KZN are you? I'm from Newcastle.
    With what is happening we have decided to join the Suidlanders they are the only group that is planning any form of bug out and back up plan. They will have 25 designated safe areas throughout the country. Depending on where you live. When you join up with them they put you on a whatsapp group with other members in your area. You just keep the communication going in the group except if there is a problem the they notify you at once. When TSHF they will give you a meet up point and a time to be there. Should you miss the departure there will be someone there to tell you where the next point is. They are trying to get the members mobilized into small groups so as not to attract to much attention but to still have a level of safety in a group.
    We have made up a group of 4 families that together we helping each other to build up stock and get ourselves ready. We where told to make sure we have enough fuel to drive at least 800km.
     
  42. AntonyRaison

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    Ja I heard of the Suidlanders, and seen a bit about those guys, they are portrayed as Extremists.
    Lots of interesting stories on whom they are, and what affiliations they have With other groups overseas ... all sound a bit fishy and doesn't sit well with me in my mind, but I really would not know, and I have no affiliation to them..
    But none the less Things seem bleek on the surface of it, I really dont know what may come or may not come.
    I am not a prepper, I just enjoy spending time in the Bush doing wilderness survival.

    As for the mortgages if Land is indeed expropriated, and Well if it happens to be my house I simply will not pay the mortgage.. I think A lot of people are of that view, and that outcome would cripple the economy.
    As for the best place to go Cape? I would likely head off to Namibia instead if I really had to go anywhere that is.
    For now I don't buy any of the hype from either alt-left or alt-right.
    I am a tad worried for what might be or what might happen.. but I doubt it would be anything to what anyone is thinking if it does indeed Happen..
    So Yeah for now will have to wait to see what comes out of the debates they having and see what the choice is.
     
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  43. Ann

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    I know what you mean but right now it's a case of any port in a storm. Afriforum is trying to go the legal route, which is working but the wheels of the law turn slow and in the mean time hoards of extremist youths and their charismatic leaders are attacking different towns all over the country. Just yesterday there was a uprising in a west coast town of Hermanus where things got to the point of the police station being burnt down.
    When the shit hit the fan I don't care who you are, if we can find enough common ground to realize that we need each other to survive then I will work with you. Later on when you have the luxury of being able to be picky about other factors then we can part ways but as long as survival is our main goal then I will join up with them.
     
  44. AntonyRaison

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    I understand where you coming from.
    I hear and see the news, I am aware of all the attacks and murders and land invasions as it all stands this is crime, it is illegal right now to do this.
    I am not entirely sure of the driving force behind these attacks and invasions, can all speculate and likely be more or less right about where the orders are being sent from.

    I can't really blame anyone for wanting to prepare for a possible eventuality.. and well that is fine and well..
    Just the history of the evolution of whence they came (the suidlanders) that and their possible affiliations that all just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...
    Maybe I am far too young and far too liberal but yeah no I pass on these chaps thanks.
     
  45. Old Geezer

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    Excellent idea -- to take down the economy should they turn on you.

    Without white people, native South Africans do not have the ability to make it in the modern world.

    I say "native South Africans", however it was the Bantu-speaking peoples who pushed down into S.Africa from the west coast regions of equatorial Africa wiping out entire peoples in their path. This happened long before white people came to the lands in the southern regions of the continent of Africa. These Africans were themselves conquerors, were the death plague.
     
  46. AntonyRaison

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    aye, well the history and evidence is there for what you say but yeah no use trying to point these things out about the movements and migration of various peoples to here..
    But yup Thats what I would just do, not pay my mortgage... flee if I had to to somewhere safe.. but for now its all speculative of what will or wont happen..
     
  47. Thesoutherner

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    Hi guys checking in from Gauteng is this still active??
     
  48. lonewolf

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    sure is!
     
  49. Mekada

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    Welcome aboard bud! I'm from North West.
     
  50. AntonyRaison

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    YUP. still around still getting out and doing wilderness survival,etc
     
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