The Big Three Most Evil Dynasties

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  1. poltiregist

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    Lets step back and look at what life in the U.S. might be like in 30 years if the communist gain control of the U.S. this November 2020 . There will not be another even close to a legitimate election ever again if that should happen . -- The Joe Bidden puppet has already said he wants to ban firearms . He has already selected Beto O'Rourke to be in charge of confiscating firearms from the law abiding subjects under his communist dictatorship . Joe Biden has obediently selected Alexandria Cortez to be in charge of the economy . Her job is to stop all oil and coal production . All farms raising meat for consumers will be shut down and again the U.S. subjects will be required to be vegetarians . All educational schools will be free as well as health care . This all sounds crazy because it is , but they are serious in these lunacy dreams . --- My question is which regime would be better to live under 30 years from now if the Communist gain control of the government in the U.S. in November . I would be interested in how you would rank the best communist regime to live under from best to worst . China , Russia , Venezuela or the United States .
     
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  2. Alaskajohn

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    That’s kind of like a answering the question “which body part do you want me to cut off first?”
     
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  3. poltiregist

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    I would think living under the communist regime of Russia might be the better deal and with China being the worst deal and Venezuela and the United States being ranked somewhere in between .
     
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  4. Old Geezer

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    I'll pick Amerika. We Americans will cut the cities off from access to food and fuel.
     
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  5. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-in-favor-of-reparations-for-black-residents/

    "North Carolina’s Asheville City Council on Tuesday voted unanimously to pass a repentant measure that formally apologizes to black residents and moves to issue reparations in the form of investments in certain areas of the community through the creation of the Community Reparations Commission"

    If you've been to Asheville in the past couple of decades, you know that while walking the streets of downtown you can catch a buzz simply by breathing. The stoners and bums smoke dope in public. Cut off Asheville. Never visit. Let the city die.

    I wonder what Thomas Wolfe would write about the place were he alive today, "Look Homeward Stoner".
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  6. Old Geezer

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    hahahahahahah that was funny......
     
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  8. Morgan101

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    Poltiregist: Those are some pretty miserable choices. I seriously doubt I will make it another 30 years, but my expectation is that it would not go that far. IMHO the U.S. would look more like Europe, maybe the UK or France. I hear all the saber rattling from SFB Biden, but I think when the rubber meets the road none of it will come to fruition. It is easy to pander to a crowd of your cheering supporters than to get something passed into law.
     
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  9. Max rigger

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    You should look forward four years and guess how deep the shite your standing in will be if Trump gets back into power.

    Are people here happy Trump will now be hiding the infection rate from the American people? Not good IMHO for the land of the free to be doing that.
     
  10. TexDanm

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    IF Biden is elected and actually DOES the things he has said, (politicians almost NEVER do what they promise) we will find out if we deserve to be a free people anymore. If we don't refuse to give up our guns and revolt we flat out don't deserve to be free. Maybe we have allowed the sheep and vermin to outbreed us. If we allow the sheep and wolves to run things we will be dead as a people. The sheep will not fight for their freedoms and maybe the conservatives have become paper tigers and are all talk and no action... I Promise on my honor as a free man, I WILL die a free man and they will get MY guns when they pry my cold dead finger off the trigger. I am an old man but can still shoot just fine.
     
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  11. Old Geezer

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    Though in technology, I work with the medical community.

    Many young people who get covid experience mild or no symptoms, youth are far less likely to transmit.

    People at risk are those who smoke, who are obese, eat a poor diet, and the elderly who have multiple ongoing disorders. The media is actively seeking-out cases that do not fall within these groups. When the media finds a young person who has died, they are joyous and give tens of millions of dollars'-worth of coverage to these statistical anomalies.

    The reason NYC was hit so hard was due to there being ghettos therein where people often smoke, use illegal drugs, drink to excess, are obese w/bmi (body mass index) over 40, and who have diabetes (due to obesity and a potato-chip diet). NYC hospitals first hit hard were adjacent to China Town.

    If the U.S. economy collapses, far more people will die of other causes than covid.

    The collectivists WANT panic, anarchy, and death so as to bring about social revolution. They hallucinate that the USSR was a utopia, that the Chinese people are free, and that any government can print unlimited amounts of currency to fix any problem. They hallucinate that all people are born with equal abilities and that there should be no consequences for living a useless life. They want the redistribution of wealth from productive people to the non-productive people.

    All of this to say that the Left is composed of elitist wanna-be-gods, the ignorant, and the something-for-nothing trash. Most university professors have the common sense of a ferret.

    Max, when it all goes to hell over there in socialist utopia England, I hope you get to "interface" with some immigrant gang members. Maybe you'll get to experience what happened to Lara Logan in Egypt. You can be their prettiest goat.
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  12. TexDanm

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    in reality, any list of countries with an evil dynasty leading it needs to include North Korea, Nigeria, and Iran. Compared to them, China and Russia treat their citizens like kings.

    The United States is more stupid and lazy than evil. We are currently allowing a 13% minority to rule our nation. they want the right to rob and kill as they wish and the liberal governments are saying OK and talking about doing away with the police. Personally I like the idea. They will kill each other in MASS as the gangs fight over who will rule. they mostly don't kill many nonminority people and seldom rob people that live in the better parts of town. We need to elect better people and I don't have much mercy on people that live in places run by idiots that would even consider defunding the police.
     
  13. Max rigger

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    So, looks like some missed my question

    How do you feel about Trump hiding C19 data from the people? For me its like a child stick sticking fingers in their ears and shouting " la la la la I can't hear you la la la la " because he has completely lost control of the virus situation and has no/nada/null/cero leadership skills. He has divided the nation, ruined the international reputation of a once great power and mocked any notion of freedom.
     
  14. lonewolf

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    Continually bashing an American President on an American prepping forum isnt going to win anyone any prizes!! especially one the majority of the forum members support.
     
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  15. Pragmatist

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    Good morning Max,

    Not sure how you cataloged me. I've been responding to your questions and comments.

    C-19 data is not hidden by Trump. Trump and his domestic US political enemies are manipulating the stats - but for a private citizen NOT to have access to the info does reveal much: the info is not for public consumption. Here in Virginia, an anti-Trump state, the C-19 data commingles both those COVID-infected and those with COVID-type symptoms with other - frequently more lethal (think cardiac arrest) reasons for hospital admission.

    The US epidemic portion of the pandemic is being used as a vehicle for other things such as forcing the citizenry to practice personal hygiene, get states to stockpile medical provider PPE, get smaller, more appropriate clinics established, ... much more.

    The C-19 situation at the national level is under control. Restricting public access to sensitive health emergencies with implications is not a first time event in US society. Review Agent Orange, Atomic Veterans Association, the introduction of the Ortho-Novum Pill Pack, 1963, numerous other examples.

    Leadership skills: The US corn exports agreement with China is an example of leadership. Any politician can hug babies at the county fair. "When the going gets rough,...Trump, with no background as a polished politician, has an impressive list of leadership accomplishments. This ranges from the US grain export sales to the Association of Historic Black Colleges, to opening the Federal Civil Service to those without college degrees to reforming the military. Insufficient cyber space to continue.

    The US has always been divided - since 1776. Lincoln and FDR successfully held together the factions. Trump is also but you're viewing this in the era of Madison Avenue, Hollywood and the trashy web trash.

    I personally have more freedom now than during Presidents Carter, Clinton and Obama.
     
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  16. Max rigger

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    I'll bash any leader doing a really bad job and don't care if thats the POTUS or BabyBo Johnson Trump's lapdog; BB is not as selfish and ruthless as DT but he's getting there.

    How can you not bash Trump? Stop relying on blind faith/ludicrous conspiracy theories and hidden agenda's and look around at different sources of information about the man, you cannot put up any sort of realistic defense for the man's and his actions, they simply beggar belief.

    As you say it seems the yanks here DT supporters but I'm sure they'll defend my freedom of speech.

    It all depends on the forum makeup, one forum I've very active on and has nothing to do with prepping has membership that breaks down something like 30% USA, 40% UK and 30% other countries and I've never...ever...seen a good word posted about DT; we seem to attract more Democrats and even their politics are sometimes seen as right wing in Europe.

    Back to my question, 'HOW DO MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT TRUMP NOW HIDING COVID 19 FROM THE PUBLIC'

    No drifting please just answer the question (its been asked on other forums too).
     
  17. TexDanm

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    Most people are too stupid to understand the facts. They seem to think that the stay at home orders are done to stop or somehow cure the epidemic. That is not what it is for. Eventually, either EVERYONE will catch it or they will come up with and make enough vaccine for everyone.

    The shutting down and then reopening and then shutting down again is to keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed. When that happens the mortality rate soars. Once the hospitals catch up they open things up again until they reach saturation again. At this time there IS NO CURE for it. We can't hide forever or people are going to start starving to death and the government is going to cause inflation like has never been seen in this country by handing out endless money that has no real value.

    If we keep doing that our money will eventually have no more value than monopoly money. American people have become too soft and are going to have to eventually pull on their big boy drawers and go back to work whether there is a vaccine or NOT. This information and more is all out there. There is no way that Trump or anyone can force idiots to listen to or understand most of it. Just because idiots don't know something doesn't mean that anyone is hiding the facts from them. Sadly the idiots can't even understand this so I guess that is being hidden too.

    I guess this sort of stupidity is why instructions for using an iron include the warning, "Do not iron clothes while wearing them" and with the instructions for a mower they warn, "Do not put hands under the mower while it is running." I guess if you don't have those warnings that would mean that these facts are hidden from people. ???
     
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  18. TexDanm

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    I know that it is hard to stay on topic. I am probably one of the worst about wandering but this thread has NOTHING to do with your inane rants about Trump. At his worst at least he can remember his wife's name and isn't suffering from end-stage dementia. I can't vote for anyone that picks their vice-presidential running mate solely based on the criteria of how much pigmentation they have in their skin and what sort of genitalia they have between their legs.

    There I have thoroughly responded to you. Now, I'm going to try and be good and stay on topic for a little while. Sorry Lonewolf, I just couldn't help myself. If you want to delete ALL of this political crap I will understand and mostly agree with you...
     
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  19. lonewolf

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    you are entitled to your opinion, like Voltaire said, "I might not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
    I prefer Trump, he isnt a politician and maybe he dosent say the right thing all the time, maybe he dosent listen to his advisors as much as he could, but I would back him(if I was an American voter) more than I would Obama, Hillary, Biden or Bill. if Hillary was Pres the US would already be at war with Iran, NK and Russia.
     
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  20. lonewolf

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    you'll get no arguement from me Tex.
     
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  21. TexDanm

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    To some extent, the definition of "Evil" has more to do with your philosophy and the culture that you were raised in than any consistent reality.

    Fr a moment lets look are Russia as it really is and not the propaganda that we are indoctrinated with. In Russia, all people have the right to have children and not just those that can afford to or that don't care and don't support their kids. Everyone gets a year of paid maternity leave to have a baby.

    Russia has in general less restrictive gun laws than several of our states and less restrictive than what the liberals would place in law if they ever get control of the government.

    Russia is not the evil empire that the USSR was. At this time the US murder rate is soaring and we are having riots on an almost daily basis. Russia has been mostly at peace for a long time while the US is in endless conflict for my entire life. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Kuate, Iraq then Iraq again...how did we become the world's mercenaries? Is any country that is not willing to fight for their own freedom really worth us fighting for it for them. Look how long it took for South Vietnam to surrender as soon as we got tired of dying for them. South Korea wouldn't last any longer.

    I'm not sure that Afghanistan and Iraq would last without our endless support. Sadly if you look at the places that we have fought for, the enemies that we defeated look a lot better off then the nations that we fought for. If I ran a small nation I would declare war on the USA, burn my cities and then surrender to the US. Look at Germany and Japan!

    Evil does not just mean political adversaries. As a matter of fact, it shouldn't have anything to do with that. Even China doesn't truly rate that description. they have a population problem that we can't fully grasp. their situation is that they will either work TOGETHER or they will die together. they have famines that have killed MILLIONS. They can't afford to have large segments of their population that refuse to work and yet demand to have a middle-class lifestyle. Their laws are by our standards harsh but the results of the sort of chaos that we seem to accept would lead to millions of deaths from starvation and the break down of even their limited services.

    Evel is found in regimes like Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jung II, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin, Saddam Husein... They killed millions of people that only disagreed with them. they killed off entire families, men women, and children. They killed people in mass for having a different faith or nationality of their ancestors. Their evil wasn't just based on them not being politically the same as us.

    Venezuela is more of a case of incompetence than just evil. Like Mexico when you have people that have little education and no real understanding of the way things work outside of their little village you will never have a stable democratic government. Hell, even in the US we often elect idiots!!!
     
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  22. Dalewick

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    I'm sorry. I would be long dead in 30 years. Patriot assassins will be executed by the USA socialist/communist regime.

    Dale
     
  23. Old Geezer

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    Your arrogance reeks of a bowel movement from a person with a clostridium difficile bowel infection.

    You are the one parroting lies. I'm a tech person who is now working with the medical community. I've had all of the Microbiology, Anatomy, Physiology, Advanced Human Physiology, bio-coursework "stuff". Have three undergrad degrees (all summa cum laude) plus a Master's. I can see through you as if you were a greasy piece of wax paper. Your little light doesn't shine.

    Preppers need valid information with which to work. Post-SHTF, a virus with the properties of C19 would simply have to be ignored. C19 is at best a wake-up call to the world to prepare for a real pandemic. Humanity has been routinely hit with plagues that kill over 30% of very healthy people. In 1957, the U.S. population was 170 million, today it is 330 million. In 1957 the H2N2 virus from China (the land of piss-poor hygiene) killed over 100,000 Americans (relative to today's population, make that 200,000 deaths). The 1957 virus killed kids. In 1957, our country did not panic. Today, due to our weak, ineffectual, Milquetoast population, the sheeple wish to soil their pants and hide. This will of course kill the American economy -- which just happens to be the goal of international collectivism. Coincidence? Nope!

    China is the nation who for months and months concealed what was happening in their nation from the entire world. If you wish to hate on someone, hate the Godless communists. And most of us DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!! We voted against the baby-raping Left!

    The Leftist media is composed of people who only have a verbal IQ. They babble very well. But, they cannot do the math and thus are utterly bereft of logic. The oligarchs of the Left are actually smart, but they use their smarts to lead the inferior lemmings off the cliff into their slave-hell. Their actions are the very definition of EVIL. They are apparently incapable of moral behavior. Witness the oceans of black babies they murder in their mother's womb every year. Cold anti-Christ spiritual death is their hallmark.

    Why does C19 disproportionately kill people in poor neighborhoods? Because they drink, smoke, eat a fast-food potato-chip diet, are morbidly obese, plus often have undiagnosed diabetes. These conditions are what allow C19 to kill. This is why C19 hit NYC like a 9-pound hammer; that, and NYC having a huge community named Chinatown (the first overwhelmed hospitals were adjacent to Chinatown).
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  24. Old Geezer

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    No, man, when a check-kiter begins writing bad checks to cover bad checks they usually get arrested. Big Brother gets by with it ... but for only so long. The minor recession of 2008 was but a minor portent of that which is to come. The money-printers put off the inevitable. Left or Right administration doesn't matter -- the U.S. dollar is dead. All fiat currencies of the West are dead. Wet ink is the embalming fluid used to make Italy, Greece, and Spain look somewhat like they are still alive. The economies propping-up England are on life-support themselves. Now with the covid shutdowns, IT IS OVER! Das ist tot. Fin. Muerto.
     
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  25. Max rigger

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    So you don't care Trump is hiding data from you then.

    USA, the fattest nation on the planet and not just 'people of colour' mate. Poor neigborhoods, people crammed together in crowded accommodation because thats all they can afford has nothing to do with the infection rate then. We have the same in the UK.
     
  26. lonewolf

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    yeah they are called multi cultural cities!!!
     
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    The question should be WHEN rather than IF



    Well said indeed. For Good / Evil is subjective :cool:

    Have you actually lived in the same time & places of those so-called Evil regime yourself? or you merely reading it somewhere or heard what others said about it, and applying your own moral compass upon them?

    In my experience, level of education rarely matter at all. For example, my great grandfather was a survivor of the Western Front, and afterward he did business (mostly commodity export) with everybody regardless of their political allegiance or nationality during the Pacific War. My great grandparents doesn't have much in the way of formal education, yet they spoke more languages than I do, not to mention more literate than I do.
     
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  28. poltiregist

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    That Max Rigger is exactly why we are preppers . We don't have to mingle in a crowded disease carrying environment . Yep the unprepared will have a higher death tally . As for me I am just going to sit back on my survival retreat and let em die . Trying to place blame on the prepared or Donald Trump just ain't going to cut it on this site .
     
  29. lonewolf

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    The Chinese virus came along and what happened?:
    the preppers hunkered down, stayed safe and stayed away from crowded areas.
    the unprepared panicked and started fighting over the last pack of toilet rolls.
    notice the difference??
     
  30. F22 Simpilot

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    Biden's sorry ass will get owned and tea bagged in the three debates he said he would participate in. I can't wait. LOL
     
  31. varuna

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    Not everyone is as privileged as you guys. Poor people like me must live with anything we could afford to buy, not to mention need to work / doing business to make a living and subsidizing those whose not making money / paying taxes. My self is even far worse condition, I don't even own a single real asset, but that is real life all about, ist ain't fair and will never be, because everyone came with their own luck or background (or whatever you wanna call it).

    I don't believe in the notion of prepper / survivalist mean your sitting on top of huge stockpile of supplies in your bunker, mansion, or castle. For me survivalist / prepper is about preparing at best you could either in material readiness, practical know-how, and other related aspects according to each individual situation & condition.
     
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  32. lonewolf

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    yeah, me too.
    being prepared isnt just about having supplies, its also about knowledge and skills, these will last much longer than any stockpile, maybe a lifetime.
    I dont have a bunker or a castle, I dont even own my own home.
     
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  33. Max rigger

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    Awareness is vital, not just of your surroundings but of the whats happening elsewhere hence my looking closely at international politics.

    When this virus was first reported for some reason or other I became 'Aware' it just stuck in my head, something kept saying 'keep an eye on this one' and the rest is history. It arrived in Europe, my annual contract was ending so I thought to myself bollocks I'm taking a year off and sitting this beauty out.

    I'm not a prepper by definition, I've good bushcraft skills I learned a decade ago, I've good four season camping/climbing skills and I've spent a lot of time reading about prepping, watching a lot of really shite youtube videos with only the odd one or two being useful so have I learned anything the last three months or so?

    Lots of little things some of which have made me look into stuff I'd not really bother looking at, things like nutrition, food shelf life, food storage methods and other things so I've not wasted my time and if nothing else I've now got about four months supply of long term food, I'm growing some food for the first time and I've built a portable solar power setup to run phones/laptops/small fridge and provide LED lights. If and when I settle down and buy a long term property I'll definitely only buy if I think I can go off grid for power.

    Stay safe all.
     
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  34. poltiregist

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    Your fault , my fault or nobodies fault . It don't matter . What we are witnessing is the divide between the prepared and those that simply like talking about being prepared . Resentment toward those that actually prepared seems to be bubbling to the surface . Fact is the prepared will have a higher survival rate than those that just talked about preparing .
     
  35. arctic bill

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    what are your sources for these things Joe Biden said , this is new to me
     
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  36. poltiregist

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    This was on fox news . Biden reportedly is already choosing his cabinet and their job assignment .
     
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      No offense man, but Biden ain't doin' sh##. Things are done for this p#ss-boy, just like the Soetoro lackey.

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  37. Pragmatist

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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...rats-would-ram-through-after-axing-filibuster


    Good afternoon Arctic Bill and Poltiregist,

    Above link presents the political philosophy of the Dems. Not sure if the article is focused to the here and now or to the next POTUS administration. Regardless, it's the philosophy.

    Bill, since you're up in Maple Leaf land, let me mention something about "8." the mentioned Medicare not to be used in a Biden admin.

    Contrary to the Bernie Sanders' foot soldiers, Medicare is not "free" / no cost. The citizen enrollee must purchase 3 health care politics to have coverage. As of now, a 65 year old retiree gets "free" care for major emergencies like stroke. Rest assured, this program does have some patient costs. For the other stuff, eg non-major medical: an insurance policy is needed. For the pharma: ditto.

    Medicare is an expensive program. The Bernie supporters really do believe it is free/no-cost to the citizen. The education system and "media" are controlled by the Dems.

    Foot Note: Everyone here must ensure the attending physician is in the pertinent insurance network - or major costs combined with headaches from here to the St Lawrence. I doubt if Bernie even knows where the river is.
     
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  38. Old Geezer

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    I don't give half a rat's f###ing @$$ about D.Trump. I don't follow him. I do hate the Left, i.e. the control-freaks and the paranoid sheeple who follow the Left. They all could die tomorrow and I wouldn't care. God wouldn't care either, "Get thee hence, for I never knew you."

    Trump is a city-boy, quite frankly. Liar? Duh! No joke, ha ha ha ha ...... I like the reality that he's had to deal with the Mafia. Dad worked for one made-man / family. I knew this fellow as a kid; good guy in heart, he got decent Cubans out'a Cuba when the scum Castro family raped their way to power. Gambling / pay-offs / cops on the take (they are the most honest cops). So what?! Welcome to life, grow up.

    I've had all manner of hell things happen to me, to include too damned much death. Welcome to life. Can't handle it, then you're not a man. Life/death/life/death/life/death/ .........

    Look at the men who post on this site who have been shot to sh## and are still fighting, still living. Grow a pair, or just soil yourself.

    Life, most the time, ain't worth it. Here's a neat whisky, welcome to the dance of damnation! Let's put on our dancing shoes!



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  39. arctic bill

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    lets be serious if you want to talk about the three most evil empires. it is defiantly not the USA under Biden.
    I would say
    1) Hitlers Nazi Germany
    2) Imperial Japan
    3) mongol Empire
     
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  40. lonewolf

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    Communist Russia under Lenin.
     
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  41. poltiregist

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    I don't think Biden has much chance in stealing the election but I like to consider all future possible scenarios . We all know how the Democrats are looking at a avenue to cheat in an election - Mail in ballot fraud , encouraging citizens of other countries to try to vote in a U.S. election , Voting dead people , and so forth . Any group that supports killing children " abortion " or after birth killings have no problem in trying anything moral or in-moral to try to gain control . Look at their desperate coup attempts on Donald Trump in the past three plus years . ------- If for some unforeseen reason they gain control and do just half the stuff they have touted as being their goal . Then yes - I believe we would be heading to a government run by China . China has already paid the Bidens . One account was one and a half billion dollars connected between the Bidens and China . Personally I think if we fall under a Chinese puppet , U.S. citizens would be better off trying to sneak across the boarders and live in Venezuela . ---- Again I am not expecting the U.S. to fall to communist China this November but as a prepper , I plan for any and all scenarios .----- At my age my prepping is done more for my descendants than myself . And I agree with Vauna's post on this topic " the question should be when not if " .--- My family group have had multiple meetings to discuss this . We are developing a plan for our descendants . That is the key to our survival groups success . We don't just think about ourselves . we think about people with our bloodlines that are not even born yet . I have no intention of just sitting back and quite prepping because I have gotten old and will not personally benefit from my sacrifice and efforts . One day I might be remembered as the ancestor that prepared for them .
     
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  42. Morgan101

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    I would include China when the Communists took over under Mao Tse Tung. The Ottoman Government in Turkey certainly gets an honorble mention, as would the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. These are all in modern history.
     
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  43. poltiregist

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    China is well known to have some very good computer wizards probing weaknesses in other countries computer systems . They are known for infiltering companies by inserting people or bribing people to gain information in order to bolster their communist economic and military standing . It to me is only logical that they would be looking at a way to manipulate the computerized election returns in November . They want Biden sitting as a figure head in the White House to do their bidding . --- No way could Biden win a honest election but a rigged election that is another matter . The Democrats got caught trying to rig the election in 2016 . Do you really think they will have gained integrity somewhere between 2016 and 2020 .
     
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  44. Max rigger

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    Great episode of a great show here



    Bought a campervan today :)
     
  45. Old Geezer

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    https://www.breitbart.com/national-...ians-to-take-down-images-of-jesus-from-homes/

    "Chinese communist authorities have ordered poor Christian villagers to remove Christian images from their homes and replace them with portraits of Chairman Mao and President Xi Jinping or risk losing their welfare benefits.

    "The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has continued its program of “Sinicization” of religion by channeling religious fervor in the country toward the Party rather than God, the Christian Post reported this weekend.

    "In May, an official in the eastern province of Shandong raided the home of a local Christian and hung pictures of Mao Zedong and Xi Jinping on the wall in place of Christian images.

    “'These are the greatest gods. If you want to worship somebody, they are the ones,' the official told them.'

    "This year, China’s “social credit system” was scheduled to become fully functional, assigning points to each individual based on how much the Communist Party approves of them and using their rating to control their behavior and access to certain benefits."

    Isn't this kind'a like what is already happening on American college campuses? Conform, or be beaten by BLM students. Professors ignore the violence for the "greater good".
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  46. Dalewick

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    The 3 most evil modern societies/governments, to me;
    Pol Pot - Khymer Rouge
    Mao - CCP
    Stalin - USSR


    Dale
     
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  47. poltiregist

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    Dale one of the Democrats hopefuls in 2016 actually said Pol Pot was her hero . Not sure but think it was Elizabeth Warren that thought his regime was wonderful . Old Geezer , the Democrats want to use the Chinese virus as an excuse to forbid people from going to church even going so for as burning down churches . It may pis- some folks off but I think that makes the Democrat party a Communist party . I wonder whose picture they would want their subjects to worship .
     
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  48. Pragmatist

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    Good morning all,

    When I was in junior high school (now: Middle School), the recess question was:

    "Who was worse: Hitler or Stalin?"
     
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  49. varuna

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    Given that question / option, my answer is Stalin
     
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  50. lonewolf

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    they were both mass murderers.
     
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