The Debate

one of the most incoherent debates i have ever watched...

1. both sides interrupting each other was a complete turn off...
2. chris wallace never had control of the debate...
3. chris wallace tried to debate trump himself which showed which side he was on...
4. almost no rebuttals allowed...by rebuttal i mean the normal "do you wish to respond, XYZ"
5. the hatred from both sides was so thick you could cut it with a knife...
6. no one won as far as i could tell....

 

Wally: I would concur with most of your assessment. IMHO the most telling statement in the entire debate: " I have done more in 47 months than you have done in 47 years."

 

One point you make -- # 5 -- is the proverbial "elephant in the room".

"5. the hatred from both sides was so thick you could cut it with a knife..."

This is a news item in-and-of itself. The MSM media often uses words and phrases such as "tensions rising", "political division", "opposing opinions", ... No, no, no, Americans now are mad enough to kill. And as we read the news, Americans are now killing each other based on politics. Police are being shot because one political side wishes them to be eliminated.

Here's the deal, America has split. The "united" part of the United States of America no longer exists. As a matter of fact, people on both sides want to kill their opponents = civil war, the shooting variety. Neither side is going to compromise. There will be a divorce between opposing states or there will be war. At base minimum, hundreds of thousands are going to die unless divorce agreements can't be achieved.

The only alternative could be that post-economic-collapse (there's the big trigger point), the military could step in. I do not believe the military will follow the orders of an anti-Constitution Leftist government should they issue a jack-boot martial law order. The socialists loathe the military and within the Pentagon, there is no shortage of deep-state seditionists. I do not believe such traitors to the Constitution will be able to sabotage those true Americans in uniform who took their oath to the Constitution seriously. I hope the seditionists are imprisoned or executed. I hope that the Constitution-loyal military sends the anti-American elitists packing.

Yet another option is out there and that is that a weak America could be the cause a nuclear war in which our cities are scorched off the face of the Earth. Violence is caused by the ready-availability of victims. Would cities disappearing push the big RESET button? I think so.

The future holds not just for an apocalypse. Apocalypses await. By 2030, there will cease to be a problem with overpopulation on Earth.
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A take away I got from the debate . Trump says if the Democrats win by fraudulent means he may not step aside and let the Democrats take over the reins of the U.S. . It is obvious the Democrats ARE making a huge effort to steal the election through fraud . They plan to keep producing ballots for biden even after the election until they aquire the needed number to put their puppet into the White House . I am on Donald Trump's side with this attempted Communist take over . Violence will almost certainly escalate over the next months . --- The upcoming months will divide the truly prepared and the un- prepared as some will be walking on top of the ground and the un-prepared laying under the ground " or at least those not left for the buzzards " .

 

It was no debate and Wallace was all but useless. I have never seen a more bullying politician as that shown in Trump last night and the 'debate' has now been ridiculed on a global scale, the POTUS has done yet more international harm to the credibility, honesty and trustworthiness of the USA, its bloody tragic for you people Republican or Democrat.



the US debate was not about policy, it was about Trump and his ego. This man paid $750 in tax to the government of the USA, he gave his daughter $750,000 in 'consultancy fees', that shows his depth of character.

 

Good morning Max,

Ridicule from enemies and from those not knowledgeable has less than zero value to many of us.

The debate was planned Republican theatrics. The other side has a faction filling out deposit slips for reparations from some ancestors' slavery.

You just haven't seen enough politicians to make a comparison - and viewing public debates is for the bread and circuses crowd.

Trump paid more in income taxes than you can guess or even calculate with a staff of chartered accountants. The US income tax code is understood by only a few ...... and even court cases re income taxes are murky. "Nothing vast enters the human mind without a curse." Socrates

You display biases against Trump and this is OK. What I see you doing, however, is saying your biases are neutral observations. Those in support of Trump and his administration have a large faction ... I'm in this ... accepting that the entire nation cannot be accommodated in what Trump is doing.

 

agree with lonewolf...

I did not watch the debates knowing it was going to be a chaotic dog and pony show.

Will not be watching the other debates as well.

Did not watch debates in previous election cycles for the same reason....bread and circuses for Ishmaelite public herding needs.

It has nothing to do with what happens when one gets into office....how one handles one's self...to whom one owes allegiances/favors.


Watcherchris
Not an Ishmaelite

 

"Majority of Spanish Speaking Telemundo Viewers Say Trump Won Debate"

https://theohiostar.com/2020/10/01/...aking-telemundo-viewers-say-trump-won-debate/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telemundo

Spanish Americans came here via the legal process and started their own businesses. They do not want to be pushed aside by ANY horde of immigrants. No jobs for the people who are here. The Chinacovid panic has blown the guts out of our economy.

Cuban Americans survived the hell of Cuba socialism turned communism.
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POTUS & FLOTUS should have worn masks more often what with both testing positive. Worrying part is the fact that a lot of his key team will also be infected now. He is obviously high risk because of age and obesity, how many of his close team are older?

 

VP Debate 10/7/2020
well at least it was civil this time around...

1. few rebuttals allowed again, pence had to use his minutes for other questions rebutting what harris said previously...
2. there was little policy spoken by either side and saying you have a plan isn't policy
3. i doubt anyones mind was changed by what was said tonight
4. at least the moderator didn't argue with either candidate this time which was refreshing
5. i put it at pence by a hair
6. the fly landing on pence's head totally distracted me for a bit..

 

Both made points, but in the end, I think Pence nailed Kamala. We shall see what the polls state latter on.

 

Trump has paid tens of millions of dollars in taxes. There are ALL MANNER of taxes, not just income taxes.

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/202...axes-owes-no-debt-to-russia-wait-what-n974892

"In reality, Trump has paid enough in taxes just this century to buy more than one $85 million F-35A Lightning II stealth strike jet.

"I haven’t paid enough in taxes my entire working life to buy a single one of the $2 million helmets F-35 pilots wear.

"Feeling like a bit of a slacker here on that score."

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elec...mp-paid-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-in-taxes/

"The New York Times this week reported that Trump paid tens of millions of dollars, amounting to at least $66 milllion, in taxes since 2000.

"In taxes in seven of the years of tax returns the paper looked at Trump had tax billions in the millions thanks to the alternative minimum tax.

“'Mr. Trump paid alternative minimum tax in seven years between 2000 and 2017 — a total of $24.3 million, excluding refunds he received after filing. For 2015, he paid $641,931, his first payment of any federal income tax since 2010,' the New York Times reported."

"In some earlier years, Trump paid even more in taxes. According to the New York Times, Trump paid $13.3 million in 2008. In 2005 and 2006, he paid a total of $56.9 million."
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