Traps & Trapping.

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  1. Keith H.

    Keith H. Moderator Staff Member
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  3. Keith H.

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    Playing okay for me, can you try it again & let me know how it goes.
    Regards, Keith.
     
  4. jeager

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    Playing fine now.:D
     
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  5. jeager

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    Last year a local gun and outdoor club had a trapping seminar put on by experienced trappers
    and fur takers.
    Very informative.
    One guy was selling home made liquid bait lures.
    He didn't smell very good.
    Fish oil made from carp ya know. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    Fox urine stinks as bad as muskrat gland musk.
    It works quite well I'm told.
    I used fish pieces and canned sardines, packed in oil, for raccoon and it worked well.
    Never did trap a fox, those critters are quite smart.
     
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  6. Keith H.

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    I have trapped fox & cat jeager, but both can carry diseases, especially in their urine. I don't bother these days, but I do shoot them, especially feral cats.
    Keith.
     
  7. jeager

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    Keith.
    I lost track long ago of all the stinkin' feral cats I've shot on my 15 acres.
    People see my sodium vapor night lamp and think I'm a farmer and NEED another barn cat!
    I happen to love a house cat. Have had many fine house cats as loving pets.
    ON the sofa, IN the house, purring and being friendly where they BELONG.
    NOT out killing song birds, baby rabbits and other small game and getting diseases easily spread
    to humans.

    I knew a nice lady that had several horses and a large barn so she kept cats to control vermin.
    Fine and dandy 'till one clawed her and she got cat scratch fever!
    She got super sick, lost her vision but thankfully a long course of antibiotics got her
    vision back.
    She never completely got over the disease and now and then gets sick and her vision does fade.
    Cat fever is nothing to fool with.
    Pregnant women should AVOID fluffy at all costs.
    Even a minor scratch can cause fetus damage and even a baby born blind.
    Cat lovers beware.

    the organisms disseminate and infect the liver, spleen, eye, or central nervous system

    ^^^ from:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-scratch_disease
     
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  8. Keith H.

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    Thanks, good post. A warning for all!
    Keith.
     
  9. jeager

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    Sad to suggest that any and all feral cats should be terminated but it's true.

    When fluffy is abandoned it turns feral (wild) quickly. If not it dies.
    Cats spread a number of diseases to man, none good.

    http://www.animalplanet.com/pets/5-most-dangerous-cat-diseases/

    ^^^ read please. Cats spread many nasty diseases to man.
    Pregnant women shouldn't handle or even be around a cat or a litter box.
    A friends adult pregnant daughter got cat scratch fever and the baby was infected and died.
    This is serious and ain't no joke.
    I had a lady friend who bred and trained horses. She had a barn and barn cats.
    One had a litter of kittens as they are prone to do.
    She moved the litter of kittens and the mother cat BIT her.
    She ignored it.
    She developed cat scratch fever and went BLIND!
    Get that?
    BLIND.
    Several weeks of i.v. meds and she got better and got her sight back.
    But beware!
    She occasionally gets sick again and looses her sight from time to time.
    As she ages it will get worse.
    Shoot fluffy~!!!!

    Not your fluffy but feral fluffy!
    Years ago when my kids were young I set out to shoot a feral fluffy.
    The kids objected....as in threw a fit!
    So...............I caught fluffy and took the thing to the country vet.
    The vet was a mite upset saying to get the thing out right now!
    He flat said, " you know better. Shoot it and bury it or better yet BURN it!"
    I burned it to ashes.
    Sorry if that offends some sensibilities but this is the real world.
    If buried some woods critter would have dug it up and potentially spread diseases.

    I happen to love cats and have had several.
    All INSIDE and fat and on the sofa purring where fluffy belongs.
    Just my opinionated thoughts.
    :D
     
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  10. lonewolf

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    we will need a few cats post event to keep down the number of rats and mice, but only a few, a yearly cull might be in order like they do in Crete.
     
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    Post shtf there will be PLENTY of cats, and dogs, around.
    I suggest way too many as post shtf people will dump fido and fluffy.
    Or kill and eat them.
    Wild fido and fluffy could easily become dangerous to survivors of post shtf.
    I know from experience.
    I live in the country with no real close neighbors and am surrounded by woods.
    Years ago when my youngest was 5 years old he was playing in our woods when I saw him
    by a tree standing still frozen with fear.
    About 20 feet away was a large, shepard like dog about to spring on him.
    I calmly faced the dog, picked up the child, walked backwards to the house with the dog stalking the
    whole way.
    I secured by boy, grabbed a 30-30, and shot that thing dead.
    I collar had a tag, old one, from Cleveland, some 60 + miles away that expired FIVE years before.
    Some miscreant dumped that dog and it survived by going feral.
    Another time my g-friend at the time came by and I heard her screaming.
    I grabbed a rifle and ran outside to find FIVE feral dogs that had her against the garage.
    They hadn't attacked yet and ran when they saw my.
    Still I got three of them.
    In south Ohio farmers solicited hunt/gun club members to HUNT WILD DOGS.
    Country kids were being attacked at bus stops, one nearly mauled to death.
    I never got a shot but 11 feral dogs were shot that day.
    Post shtf unwanted cats and dogs WILL be a problem.
    Just sayin'.
     
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    we really don't have a problem in the UK with stray cats and dogs, maybe the odd one but not as you'd notice.
    post SHTF I agree with you but think of all that free meat on the hoof.....err, paw!!!:p
     
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    ewwwwwwwwwwwww Dog meat!
    Yuk.
    Still protein is protein but I'd rather not.
    Native Americans ate horses and dogs.
    Or so I've read.
    I'm thinking that post shtf wild critters might be in short supply.
    Survivors also.
     
  14. lonewolf

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    i'm not so sure about the wild animals, people in the UK don't know where their food comes from, or rather it comes from the supermarket in those polystyrene packets with plastic wrapping.
    I have never thought the survival rate in the UK would be that high post event, maybe 5-10% if that.
     
  15. Keith H.

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    I too have been attacked by wild/feral dogs, & have a scar to prove it. My wife's father was attacked by a feral cat when walking next to a creek. Feral cats can grow to quite a size. Right now their is a hunt on for a Puma that was spotted, in Victoria I think.
    Keith.
     
  16. jeager

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    Keith:
    In a shtf people won't care for fido and fluffy and many will turn feral out of hunger & survival.
    Dogs pack up. It's an instinct, and they can and will attack humans.
    Much as I love these critters it's going to be shoot on site.
    In the parts of Pa. that are sheep country ANY dog running at large is shot on sight.
    Sheep are helpless against dogs.
     
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