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  1. Brownbear

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    And I can see us heading in that direction. The recent election of a Green Party councillor purely on the pro-Palestine issue is now being called into question as he had previously had an inappropriate public anti-Jewish rant that somehow was missed by the Greens when they put him forward.

    Green Party - pro Palestine campaign? I had to read it twice. Clearly they are no longer concerned about the environment then.

     
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  2. lonewolf

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    a video has emerged of Sidiq Khan saying he wants to build 40,000 homes exclusively for Muslims, this was before he was re-elected as London Mayor, I am pretty sure this is illegal,
    dosent surprise me though, thats probably why he was elected for a 3rd term.
    (you tube video: "Sadiq Khan promises SEGREGATION in London? ").
     
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  3. Brownbear

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    Yes, I saw that. There must be. mechanism in place for the London Assembly to challenge that under regions/race laws.

    I suspect he was voted in on the basis on religion rather than policy. We seem to be entering into a different era in politics and it does not bode well.
     
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  4. lonewolf

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    well what with Sadiq Khan and that Green Councillor local politics are sure changing and not for the better.
    when SHTF its more likely to be a race war than a solar flare or an emp.
     
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  5. lonewolf

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    UK govt now telling people to have a minimum of 3 days worth of emergency items at home.
    https://prepare.campaign.gov.uk
    talk about dont teach your grandmother to suck eggs, the older generation have been doing this for years.
     
  6. Old Geezer

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    In times past -- and I'm only talking about 3 or 4 generations back (2 generations for me) -- people set back food for all of the late fall and winter months. I spent >50% of my days at my paternal grandparents' house, plus we perpetually visited kin up in the mountain hollers of Southern Appalachia. People always had on hand at least a half-year's worth of food. Salt pork / smoked meat was a staple, that and freshly killed chickens.

    Fall was canning season. Fall was hunting season. Back before the great chestnut blight, people often let hogs go feral so that they'd grow fat on the forest's mast, then in fall, hunt them down, salt and smoke the meat.

    Canning took days. My grandmother's basement (dirt floor) had shelving on which there were mighty rows of canned veggies, jellies, jams, pickled this and that's, on and on. As a boy, I paid attention to the blackberry jelly stores. Boyz iz boyz.

    Deer meat was a big deal for some families, but not mine. Pap and I would hunt small game for that evening's supper table.

    In former days, not putting back food for winter meant that you'd die. Not knowing home remedies for fevers meant that you were going to die. Not having access to pure mountain water meant that you were going to die. I was raised by these people. I'm actually not a prepper. This was the norm. This was the way things just were. People didn't worry. You did these things. Life went on.

    I find the times in which we are now living bizarre / very foreign / raw idiocy.
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  7. lonewolf

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    my parents always kept food back, they were of the WW2 generation and knew about rationing, and they brought me up the same way, I say sometimes that I have often run out of cash but I have never run out of food.
     
  8. lonewolf

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    UK general election is on Thursday 4th July.
     
  9. lonewolf

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    I was going to vote Reform, but Farage isnt standing and they arent going to stand in the North of England and they wont have candidates in every seat so whats the point?
    I will never vote Labour, a lot of the older MP's are out and out communists, and I cant stand their bully boy tactics which I personally experienced many years ago, anyway they are too "lefty" and woke for me.
    Kier Starmer dosent even know what a woman is.
     
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  10. Brownbear

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    The point of Reform, I believe, is the same as the point of UKIP all those years back. They are a group that can and probably will influence future policy in the same way that UKIP's results many years back forced the Brexit referendum. If one is really unhappy with unfettered immigration Reform is probably the most viable choice. They do not have enough candidates to form a government but that does not really matter.

    I am really quite concerned the Labour will be the next government. Five years of them and we'll all be wearing dresses and have blue hair. Under them I strongly suspect we will ave further unfettered immigration and will have moved so far towards being a Muslim state that there will be no going back. It does not bode well.
     
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  11. lonewolf

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    I agree that we will probably have a Labour govt but it may not be cut and dried as they think and it may be a hung parliament. I dont think Reform will make much of an impact, thats the trouble with smaller parties.
    I see over 70 Tory MP's are leaving at the next election, the rats are leaving the sinking ship, I hope Sunak leaves after he loses the election.
    apparently he owns a big estate in California.
    if Labour does get in expect the Unions to run riot, another "winter of discontent".
     
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  12. Brownbear

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    I expect Reform to have quite a large impact - before the election that held up to Brexit most people though UKIP would have little impact but, on the day they did around 15%. I suspect we will see the same story.
     
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  13. lonewolf

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    the smaller parties dont have much change of winning an election, its really a two party election.
    Reform are not standing in a long of places so voting for them will be a wasted vote.
     
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  14. Brownbear

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    I don't believe a vote is ever wasted. Whoever gets into office will be careful to try and appease the masses, however small an alternative vote it still has power.

    Apparently it is now 78 Conservative MPs that are not standing for election. They have thrown away the chances of the Conservatives. My key concern is that I genuinely fear a Labour government.
     
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  15. lonewolf

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    I think small parties will have few if any MP's after the election and will have no effect on govt policies.
    I agree that a Labour govt is something to worry about. they will give more power to the unions.
    Labour want to bring in the vote for 16 years olds because they are more likely to vote Labour.
    we also have to be wary of any Muslim MP's no matter what party they are, especially in London and the North, its all about Gaza .
     
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  16. Max rigger

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    I agree with BB. While a small party will not directly change government, it will send a messaged that the people are not happy campers and things have to start changing. The reform party may be sending that message now.
     
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  18. Brownbear

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    I think so. I am not sure I would want them as a government (in reality they do not have enough candidates for that to happen) and they are a one issue party but the issue of unfettered immigration and silo societies needs addressing.
     
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  19. lonewolf

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    at the moment I just see Reform as a wasted protest vote, they havent got enough candidates to make anything other than a gesture.
     
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  20. Old Geezer

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    Oh precious England, observe that which is happening in the USSA! Avoid this insanity by any means necessary. If your laws prevent you from restoring order, then disobey such laws. Your survival must become a reality.

    To ignore what is devolving is to die. Never-ever imagine that your civilization, your order, cannot be annihilated.

    You are NOT where we here in the U.S. are ... yet.

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    haos is inevitable without turning-back the tsunami of political correctness, the tsunami of other cultures violent in nature overwhelming your moral underpinnings. Are there events dark in England's past centuries? OK, sure. Yet, tease-out the good and restore the enlightened qualities . Raise them up! Do NEVER lower your standards. FIGHT for nobility in human nature and remove any corrupting influences. Your future is at stake right here and now! Hold to the truths and Liberties of the Magna Carta. Hold to sacred Reason. Emotions are fleeting. Only the base, the ignorant, are guided by their emotions and glandular natures. Set these things and people away from yourselves. Stay true to the advancement of humanity. Shun dead and violent cultures. Send them away.
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  21. lonewolf

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    if you think England is in a state now you aint seen nothing yet!
    wait until after the general election and if Labour wins I give it 6 months, Labour will be true to form and mess everything up, I dont trust "flip flop" Starmer and his MP's are no better. they have no policies and no ideas.
    I say "England" because Scotland under SNP and Wales under Labour are already a mess.
     
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      If labor wins there, you'll have more problems blocking illegal immigrants pouring in. Already, y'all have to import food. Sometimes good intentions get people dead.
       
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  22. Brownbear

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    The Brexit vote happened on the basis of a 15% vote for UKIP. That definitely was not a wasted vote (although, sadly, it seemed to open the door to the unfettered immigration we have now).
     
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  23. Brownbear

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    I am sure they will mess things up. We will all have to have blue hair and wear dresses and white people will become. minority, never mend the mess they will make of the economy. The question is "could we withstand another Conservative government". One only has to look at their election manifesto to ask why were they not doing the things they are proposing now some time back? Unfortunately I see the current Conservative government as a sort 'legal crime syndicate' not unlike the British view of the mafia. It feels like so many of them are rather seedy and, as a whole, they have their hands in everyone's pockets (I am sure this is, in reality, a picture painted by the media, but when one looks at the Post Office Horizon scandal, the performance of the water companies, where the bosses still receive 'telephone number' bonuses, one has to wonder).

    Good conservatism is good, but these days we have bad conservatism.
     
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  24. lonewolf

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    I wonder about another conservative govt seeing as at least 78 have no intention of seeking re-election and more may still follow, so we would get a lot of new MP's hopefully without the attitudes of the old guard.
    one thing is for sure a Labour govt will cosy up to the EU and try to rejoin at the first opportunity, they are all Remainers, Starmer was pushing for a second referendum.
    I wouldnt trust a "socialist" as far as I could throw them, remember Hitler was a socialist.
    anyone remember the last Labour govt? I do, Blair took us into an illegal war and opened the gates to mass immigration, the Labour party is financially incompetent, the final word when they were voted out was "there is no money left", do we really want more of that from Sir Flip Flop who will give way to all our enemies and turn us into a woke Islamic country, (including Sharia Law) ,remember he dosent even know what a woman is.
     
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  25. Brownbear

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    I agree with you on all the above points. I suspect we will get Labour as the next government but I doubt it will be the sweeping victory Labour are hoping for.
     
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  26. lonewolf

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    I think this Diane Abbot business has upset Starmers plans.
    it was a minor event but its been blown up into an internal civil war. Starmer cant make decisions , he flip flops this way then that. he would be terrible as Prime Minister.
    personally I think its time both Abbot and Corbyn retired.
     
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  27. Max rigger

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    This is the first general election I will not vote on. The UK is finished.

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  28. lonewolf

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    I have voted in every election since I was 21, I'll not stop now.
    I dont care what people vote but they should vote.
    your living in Spain arent you? do you get to vote in the Euro elections?
     
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  29. lonewolf

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    starmer has just U turned yet again and said Abbot can stand .
     
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  30. Brownbear

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    I think that Starmer has made a mistake. Diane Abbott is a loose cannon and some of the drivel that comes out of her mouth is simply ludicrous but, hey ho, it's Starmer's own political future he is putting on the line.
     
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  31. lonewolf

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    I'd rather Abbot was standing than not, she detracts from any positive points Labour might have, her arithmetic was always cause for laughter.
     
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  32. lonewolf

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    D Day celebrations in Normandy today.
    and YES I think we should celebrate it or else the world could be a different place now.
     
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  33. Old Geezer

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    On D-Day, my dad was still in England. He was in Ordinance and they were still prepping to move an unimaginable amount of armor into Europe after the Germans were sufficiently pushed back. He and his mates were buzz-bombed, but then civilians / everyone was getting buzz-bombed.

    His brother was to go in on D-Day, but he was on a WWI ship that broke down. He went in on day 3. Later on, he was caught in the Battle of the Bulge. During only one week of that battle his company lost 3 company commanders. Tree-top artillery bursts sent flack everywhere, cutting men to pieces. He was in many other hellish fights. In one battle, he said that he could have stepped from body to body. In one battle, a British Spitfire took out a German tank that had him and his mates pinned down. That pilot saved their lives then came back round flying upside-down while waving at them as he flew over. He told me about he skies going black due to our sending-in vast squadrons of bombers. One of his duties was to go forward with the company commander and call in mortar and artillery barrages over their heads into German positions. Sometimes he manned a .50 machine gun. By the end of the war, 50% of the young men in his company had been killed. My uncle was awarded the Bronze Star. Those who were left made it all the way in to Germany and could have met-up with the Russians; however ... Scouts were sent forward to gather intel on the Russians. When they came back, they reported, "We don't want to meet them." My uncle never learned what it was that the scouts observed, but it must have been bad and/or sick.
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