Watching Cities Burn

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  1. LastOutlaw

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    Democrats burning down their own living environment is fine with me . What concerns me is their racist attitude of wanting to pillage rural areas where there are more white people . The South Africa genocide of white skinned people is now taking root in other countries as black skinned people are showing who the real racist are . There are a lot of decent black skinned people , don't get me wrong . But groups of blacks are voicing their hatred toward other races , Even wanting light skinned people to pay them huge sums of money simply because they are dark skinned . --- A vast migration of people are leaving these Democrat cites , businesses and tax revenue are leaving with them . Not only are they destroying their living environment , they are casting their children and children's children that remain in these Democrat Cites in a future of deepening poverty . In a year or two they will probably on some other country's television be showing these failed democrat city residence looking pitiful and asking people to donate money to these impoverished individuals that burned down their own city . ---- Do you guys remember that tv commercial from a few years back showing those pitiful looking black people that wanted a donation of bottled water because they had peed and craped in their own water supply and now it didn't taste good ?
     
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    I don't care one bit if they want to burn their cities, however the working class will have to pay for it. I care about that.
     
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    Unwanted communities being burned by the unappreciative. Must not have worked for it. You appreciate what you work for.

    Karma sucks if your stupid!

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  7. lonewolf

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    watching cities burn could be the new post SHTF hobby!!!
     
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  8. Old Geezer

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    Sure enough! However -- and this is a big HOWEVER -- who in their right mind wants to live close enough to see the smoke of the burning cities!

    I live a bit more than 100 miles from any major city. To me, this is a royally insufficient distance. Post SHTF, we may not be safe here. Totally troubling. I often get sanguine about conditions here -- monster amounts of agriculture surrounded by enormous forested mountains. Hurrah and all, but we would be a prime target for the relocation of surviving masses of urbanites who managed somehow to survive an apocalyptic event. There's a bucketful of cold water.

    This old man has a story -- who'd'a'thunk'it. Los Angeles, riots of 1992, knew a fellow who lived in an apartment complex that did NOT get hit by the burnings & lootings. He tells me that the chaos got to within two or three blocks of him and his fellow apt. dwellers. The smoke was nigh unto them. Due to the smoke, all BBQ restrictions in the city were meaningless so the apt. families started BBQing in their commons area. They went into party mode. Sounds strange, but here is the caveat, many of them were armed not only with tire-irons and such, but also with firearms of every ilk. He told me that people were packing heat, big-time. What they had, their personal possessions, were what there was of their lives and they were NOT going to flee and let them be looted or burned. They were going to fight. Apparently from this guy's demeanor, they were kind'a-sort'a looking for a fight. Seems they wanted to do harm to those who were doing harm. His story brought a very wide smile to my face. It gladdens my heart these decades later.
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  9. lonewolf

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    that tale sort of proves that the mass evacuations from cities wont happen.
     
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  10. Old Geezer

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    Based on your observations, British urbanites won't leave cities during coming collapse due to their inability to leave. They will die where they are or will not have the capability to get past highway blockages.

    In U.S. may observations tell me that many will get out of urban areas; however, the only successful ones will be those who have military escort to relief areas, some of which are already being prepared. Areas prepared are the decommissioned Air Force bases which are being transformed into mass population holding areas (some think that these bases are being transformed into huge prison cities). Military will also simply evac. people to wherever there are resources available to get them by for a while. Some urbanites will evac. and survive due to their being hyper-aggressive themselves and thus avoid escort. They will rob and pillage their way out of ravaged cities.

    In the U.S., once there is a breakdown in law enforcement, rural people will be unencumbered and thus will do what needs to be done, which is to say kill savages engaging in felonious activities. Many casualties will be seen among rural people attempting to go on about their lives as best they can. Witness the plight of white farmers in South Africa -- they are armed, yet farming families get overwhelmed by sheer numbers of aggressors per incident.

    Rural Americans will have to take into consideration the real possibility of crews of successful raiding gangs. They will have to couple firepower with the unity among neighbors. I had a coworker who in the latter 1970s helped a rancher in his county guard his cattle during a meat shortage. A lot of cattle-rustling was going on due to meat prices skyrocketing. This fellow brought his deer rifle and did 3rd-shift guard-duty on the rancher's property. He told me of the long hours he spent in a barn loft overlooking a cattle field and the access road adjacent -- rustlers were using big trucks. Rustlers would gather what cattle they could steal, load'em up, and scoot out'a there as fast as they could. My co-worker and his rancher-boss fortunately were not targeted. So, one wonders if word got out that thieves would be shot on sight -- who knows?

    In America, there WILL be successful roving gangs ... where the people are not sufficiently armed.

    Crime is caused by the ready-availability of victims.
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    The following link is to a conspiratorial site. These folk think that FEMA is going to round-up politically incorrect citizens.

    https://amg-news.com/archives/1988

    Me, I believe that decommissioned bases being transformed into mass holding centers is to house displaced people during coming wars and urban collapse events. There will of course be areas to hold the aggressive, such as those given to perpetual acts of rioting and looting -- they'll have to be put somewhere, because they'll likely not be machine-gunned.

    There already are and are going to be even more tens of millions of politically incorrect Americans who are not going to be giving up their firearms. Can't imprison all of that. Within the Heartland America, there are millions of right-wing ex-military and they will not be going soft during hard times. Real Americans aren't wimpy and will open fire on their enemies. I know my people here in the South; we are nice ... up to a point. I've lived in the Midwest, much the same is true there, especially out in the vast agricultural regions. They impressed me as being less friendly than Southerners. Southerners are Scots-Irish. Out West, there are more people of German and Scandinavian blood and can be stand-offish / rigid. Working for a German company taught me a lot.
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    Good evening Old Geezer,

    Not a USAF base but the US Army's Ft Lee, Virginia has a planned project to convert portions into housing for overflow immigrant children. I can guess that the next intake need not be immigrant children.

    Ft Lee is a little south of Richmond.
     
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  13. TexDanm

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    All that I can speak for is where I live but here in the small town Texas surrounded by ranches and country people I can tell you that a bunch of city gangs won’t stand a chance. I used to watch those fools shooting their AR-15s and they are all about spray and assume that the bullets will know where to go. The people that live where I live are nearly all hunters and they may or may not have assault weapons, but they all do have guns. They will aim and kill you…one shot to one dead idiot.

    The refugees are not a trained military and in no way do I expect them to hang around and have a battle with determined group that are killing them one after another. People out here where I live are not like city folks. We don’t have cops. I am about 30 miles from the Sheriff’s department and at night there are not a bunch of deputies on call. I don’t even have a key to my house anymore. If I am not at home I don’t want them tearing up my place to get in and if I am home I am always less than 10 feet from a loaded gun. I have two shops and there is a gun in each of them. Three big border collies and a couple of small yappers ensure that nobody is going to sneak up on us.

    Most of my friends are well armed. I am actually the only one that doesn’t have an assault type weapon. I’m to old to go on a rampage and assault anyone and if I am defending my place I want more than a 223 to stop an attacker. Even my 357 mag JHP or JSP in a Winchester has more real stopping power than a 5.56.FMJ. If you use better ammo the 5.56 is a different thing all together but most of the kind of people that I an talking about are loading with cheap ball ammo. I used to reload soft point 65 gr. Bullets for my Mini-14 and they were good stoppers and didn’t over penetrate.

    The big thing is that most people go out and buy an AR and then shoot a few magazines through it and feel like they are READY. I like the AK round a lot better but am not sure that I like the cheap AK-47 knock off guns that a lot of people buy cheap.

    Most of the people that will come pouring out of Houston are not going to get very far and probably not even out of town before the roads are blocked and they will just sit there and die. If it happens in the summer they are not going to be able to walk 50 or 75 miles and get to me.

    Those of us that live out here will have signs up and in Texas if someone comes over a fence with warning signs up they are just moving targets. People are going to be nervous as hell and after a few “invaders” get ugly or pushy those that follow had better move through carefully and not make a mistake… like opening my gate and trying to walk 75 yards up to my house. They won’t make it and the only warning that they get they got from the sign on my gate that says NO TRESPASSING!!!
     
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    generally speaking in Britain we do not have a history of evacuation, even in the blitz of WW2 the civilians stayed put only heading to a public air raid shelter when the warning sirens started, in Plymouth at that time anyone in the North of the city walked out onto Dartmoor and stayed there for the night walking back into the city after the morning all clear was sounded.
    I remember when a certain refinery in another part of the country was on fire the local inhabitants were not evacuated, they were merely told to go indoors, shut their windows and remain there.
    to the best of my knowledge we do not have FEMA type camps in the UK, any such place is set up after an event happens, down my end of the country that is likely to be a motel or the senior school assembly hall and even then this would be temporary only.
     
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  15. TexDanm

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    A lot of the "evacuation" thing has to do with the threat and how many times in the past you have been told to evacuate. Where I was raised, we would be encouraged to evacuate every 3 or 4 years.

    I was raised near the coast and only a few feet above sea level. When a hurricane is heading our way the warnings and alerts would start and when it got closer, they would call for an evacuation. In general people ignore these warnings for years UNTIL the inevitable happens and you get hit head on. Hurricanes are infamous about changing directions at the last minute as they near landfall.

    The difference between a head on hit at point of landfall and a near miss, especially one to the southwest is huge. A head on hit from a category 4 or 5 hurricane is like getting hit by a tornado. It won't just flatten houses; it will blow them away and peal up the road too. There is no above ground wood framed building that is a totally safe place to hide in. A miss even fairly close means it rains a lot with winds in the 35 to 40 mph and gusts up to 60mph. This sort of thing while unpleasant creates some destruction such as roof damage but there will ne almost no total devastation.

    Years go by and you hear the many calls for evacuation and then nothing happens except a little wind and some rain. Then one actually does come in right on top of you. IF you survive you are unlikely to ignore evacuation calls in the future.

    The problem is that they call for evacuations while there is TIME for a hundred thousand to a half million people to safely get out before the storm comes in. If they wait until it is imminent, they would be better off telling people to stay home and hunker down.

    I've seen a last-minute panic evacuation and it was beyond bad. All it did was mean that people got to experience a hurricane while in their car stuck in an endless traffic jam that didn't move again for three or four days. Many left their home with no food or water other than maybe a bag of chips and a can of some sort of soft drink. Thousands didn’t even have enough gas in their tanks to get a safe distance before they either had to find gas or run out of it. Thousands ran out of gas sitting there on the 6-lane freeway running their motors until the fuel ran out and the motor died. All those idiots were a large part of why it took 4 days to clear the roads.

    People don’t understand that evacuations, in order to be effective, have to be called for before it is imminent or certain when you are evacuating a huge population. People are generally way too stupid for any evacuation plan to actually work.
     
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    You were talking of warnings to evacuate as a hurricane draws near......these days, the weather people are just as likely to issue the same warning with the approach of a thunderstorm!
     
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    That is a part of the problem these days. If you call for evacuation or some sort of panic responce to every storm that blows up you will not be able to get a responce when the warning is serious and the situation is possible dire. The last hurricane that we had here was a good example of this. There had been so many false alarms that when they called for a total evacuation of the coastal towns. Later when the 12 foot storm surge rolled in those people that had not listened wanted out. All that the athorities could tell them was to write their names and social security on the inside of their arms with a perminant marker so that their bodies could be identified if their homes were washed away with them inside.
     
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    a bit like the old story of "the boy who cried wolf", when it really happened no one believed him.
    same here I think, no one will believe it is really happening ("nothing bad will ever happen" philosophy) that by the time they do realise it will be too late to do anything.
     
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    "Top 5 Guns to Defend Against Looters"

    https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/top-5-guns-defend-looters/

    "We’re gun guys. As such, we’ve been closely following the events in Ferguson. As the conditions deteriorate, more and more innocent Americans are being victimized by opportunistic thieves, who have no connection to the root of the protests. When cars show up in neighborhoods with the license plates already removed…well, it seems understandable that some store owners are standing up to protect what is rightfully theirs."
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    The author goes on to show five firearms he likes. He also gives his reasons for liking his picks.
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    I'm editing this to include a choice of my own that does not show-up on the above list.

    The scoped center-fire hunting rifle / target rifle

    Why that? If among the rioters, an individual shows up who is shooting at police or innocents, that specific person must be neutralized. The same goes for the arsonist who is getting ready to torch a home or building wherein people could be living. Arsonists must be eliminated. Torching an apartment building could result in more deaths than any mass shooting.
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      I have four out of the five. I don't have the Tavor but I do have a 9mm carbine. The missing item is the shotgun. It is next on my list, except in a semiauto configuration. The pump is very reliable, unless you short stroke it, which under pressure, I might be prone to do. I concur with OG, in I do have a long range scoped rifle to take out the vermin. I like the old ma bell slogan, "Reach out and touch somebody long distance".
       
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  20. lonewolf

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    we are watching a lot of cities burning at the moment arent we?
     
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  21. Old Geezer

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    Sticking up for their wilding ones

    "Chicago pastors march to help teens who led violent 'takeover' in city: 'Moral and ethical thing to do' "

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/chica...-violent-takeover-city-moral-ethical-thing-do

    "A progressive Chicago pastor said teens who rioted in the city needed more resources and support from the community and city, after some Democrat leaders downplayed the violence.

    "Around 400 Black pastors and men joined Bishop Tavis Grant in an anti-violence march last weekend to show the youth who destroyed property and attacked tourists two weekends ago they had positive role models and work opportunities to turn to.

    " 'Grant leads Greater First Baptist Church in East Chicago. He's also the Acting National Executive Director of Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Push Coalition.

    " 'We want police patrol, not police control,' Grant said at the march in comments covered by The Chicago-Sun Times. 'We know that the proper response to this is better resources and public policy that cures some of the greatest ills of our generation, which are poverty, unemployment and inequity in education.' "

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    Old Gzr: The pastors should go out and try to locate the fathers of these teenagers. They could preach at them, but their words would fall on deaf ears. The youth could find jobs if they wished. Employers can't fill all the job offerings they currently have open. What to do? Go out and march for more money to be thrown at the issue of fatherless homes.

    https://immigrationofficesolutions.com/hiring-foreign-workers-in-chicago/

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    "Chicago family rips Kim Foxx after teens accused of deadly car crash get misdemeanors: 'Blood on her hands' "

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/chica...sed-deadly-car-crash-misdemeanors-blood-hands

    "The family of a Chicago infant who was killed after two teens reportedly crashed a stolen car is speaking out after the minors were charged with only misdemeanors in connection with the deadly collision.

    "Six-month-old Cristian Uvidia died from his injuries after the Sunday collision. The 14 and 17-year-old suspects reportedly stole a car and crashed into a pickup truck carrying the baby and other family members.

    "Uvidia's aunt, Annelisse Rivera, slammed Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx and other officials involved in the investigation, while issuing a stark warning for other families as crime continues to soar in the Windy City.

    " 'I want to know how you [Foxx] sleep at night, seeing my nephew's picture on the screen, how you can see his face and think that his life meant absolutely nothing,' Rivera said during "Fox & Friends" Tuesday. 'You're putting salt on our wounds. You're not bringing us justice, and even if you do something, we will never get our baby back. Ever. There is no true justice.'

    " 'This is absolutely something that I don't wish upon my worst enemy, truthfully… it's not a matter of if this is going to happen to another child, it's when,' she continued. -This is a daily occurrence in Chicago.' "
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  22. lonewolf

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    "Feral Youth", they are in most cities in most Western countries, a product of the moral decay and lack of parenting and positive role models in the 21st century. and its not just the males, the females are just as bad.
     
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  23. Old Geezer

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    It's happening here in this rural area / tiny town in which we live. Post-SHTF, these wanna-be tough guys are going to get killed.

    I have zero qualms about killing other human beings. On several occasions, I've locked and loaded for the purpose of killing other human beings. One situation thankfully evaporated (bad-guys realize when you are not just shitting them), so I didn't have to do the deed that day. Hurrah.

    In my small town decades ago, if the courts system didn't take out the trash, some crew of good-fellows did. This in cooperation with Sheriff's deputies. Post-SHTF, this will re-occur. Every county has no shortage of ex-combat-military folk who have zero qualms about making dangerous people disappear. Deer rifles work on humans exceedingly well. A half-century-plus ago, I had an uncle who'd killed untold numbers of Germans during WWII help take-out the trash state-side. He was in no way alone. People do NOT put up with aggression. Decent people take-out people who pose a threat to the community. Welcome to Earth. Humans are, quite frankly, enormous targets. Being a bag guy entails risk. Post-SHTF, transgress against others and inevitably you will be shot dead.
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  24. lonewolf

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    living in such a low population area as we do, we know most of the people by name and those we dont know by name we know by sight. in such an area there is little scope for "misbehaving" and outright crime is non existent.
     
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  25. Old Geezer

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    Currently, even here in Amerika, rural areas are still America. That's gonna get upended. Post collapse, it will get bad here, but we are armed and will defend what we have (I've put back lots of shotgun shells; birdshot, buckshot, & slugs; 20 gauge, I'm a 20 ga fan -- has more power than a .44 mag handgun; sure can put food on the table, been there done that).

    Mountain forests provide a near-infinite space to bury trespassers.

    I read that in rural England the crime of stealing farm equipment and/or farm equipment parts is rising, giving the underfunded rural cops a fit. In one article concerning this crime, a large farm machine was shown that looked intact; however, the thieves had stolen the motor and/or parts out of it. This stolen equipment is easily fenced to oversees black markets. Some rural homes have had burglaries targeting shotguns in addition to cash. The shotguns are stolen by lower-level (poorer) urban gangs. Such gangs don't have the arms pipelines that the international gangs have, so they have to go with shotguns (sawing-off the barrels) and what handguns they can lay their hands on; add stolen butcher knives, hatchets, and whatnot.

    Meanwhile in England, more migrants and their home cultures are slipping in; more mouths to feed. The UK is putting them on barges, talking about sending them to Africa, ...


    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...hildren-in-schools-because-of-migrant-crisis/

    "Local officials in the migrant landing hot-spot of Kent have warned that they are at the 'breaking point' as nearly 40,000 illegals have landed in Britain this year, sparking chaotic scenes across the country.

    "The growing migrant crisis, which has been dubbed an 'invasion' by Home Secretary Suella Braverman, has left local the local government in Kent reeling, with council leaders informing the Home Secretary that they no longer have the ability to provide their own local children with education and other services as the system has prioritised the children of illegal migrants."
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    "Surprise as asylum seekers ordered out of Newquay hotel after weeks of protests"


    https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/surpris...iqBszRW8Nn63YAdjxbzA3ieZEN4sWsPh3GczTxOpvgP1Y

    "A hotel in Cornwall housing asylum seekers will close today (Thursday, April 6) and the occupants moved out.

    "In a surprise announcement, the government has said that asylum seekers at The Beresford Hotel in Newquay will be moved to alternative accommodation in the South East of England over the next 24 hours.

    "The hotel has been the scene of regular weekend protests by those opposing the accommodation of asylum seekers and those supporting them."

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    "Refugee and Asylum Seeker Outreach Team"


    https://safercornwall.co.uk/refugee-and-asylum-seeker-outreach-team/

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    "Resettlement of newcomers to the UK, including refugees and asylum seekers"

    https://www.devon.gov.uk/accesstoin...the-uk-including-refugees-and-asylum-seekers/

    " Please supply the contact details for the people who, on behalf of Devon County Council, are involved with the resettlement of newcomers to the United Kingdom, including refugees and asylum seekers.

    "Angela Welch – Communities Migration and Resettlement Lead
    Simon Kitchen – Head of Communities
    All Devon County Council email addresses follow the format of name.surname@devon.gov.uk"

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    Relocating refuges to Devon is getting push-back. Me, I hate that there are government goons attempting to foist illegal migrants on Devon. Were it my state, I'd be furious. Illegal means illegal, i.e. "against the law". These uninvited should be shipped out of England ... back home, wherever, just not England. Housing them on barges = what crap!

    "Refugees Not Welcome In Devon"


    https://www.facebook.com/RefugeesNotWelcomeInDevon/

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  26. Old Geezer

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    "San Francisco Whole Foods hit with 560 calls of violence, drugs, vagrants before closing: report"

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/...violence-drugs-vagrants-before-closing-report

    "Workers at a San Francisco Whole Foods Market were routinely threatened with weapons before the crime-plagued store announced it was shuttering after a little more than a year in business.

    "Records of 568 emergency calls to the Market Street store over 13 months showed chaotic incidents, including vagrants throwing food, yelling, engaging in fights and attempting to defecate on the floor, according to the New York Times.

    " 'Male [with] machete is back,' according to one 911 call; 'Another security guard was just assaulted,' according to another call.

    "One call noted that security guards at the store were assaulted by a knife-wielding man, who then sprayed employees with a fire extinguisher.

    "One man reportedly overdosed from fentanyl and methamphetamine in the bathroom in September, according to the Times.

    "Police noted that criminals were seen emerging from the store with large quantities of alcohol, and that more than 250 baskets were stolen before the store stocked another 50 that also went missing.

    "The store cut its operating hours in October amid high theft and hostile visitors, one of the store's managers told the San Francisco Standard. In November, the store changed its bathroom rules after workers found syringes and pipes."

    https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6323905941112

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...e/news-story/b0d8ce447379c67dea08920945832736
     
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