Water Question

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  1. jeager

    jeager Master Survivalist
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    I live on 15 acres, 14 woods. Have a good well.
    What do I do for water if the power is out?
    In the past storms have knocked out power but a quick trip to the store got me gallons
    of distilled water.
    What about long term?
    Hand pump? How far down will it reach and still pump up water?
    I have a creek but sometimes in dry weather it's a dry ditch.
    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Arkane

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    Duh!
    well! modify your pumping so you are power independent! there are many ways but that's your choice!

    Creek
    Dam, weir, deep hole, pump station

    On the other hand if the above is a challenge just buy bottled water in bulk!
     
  3. jeager

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    O.K. duh.
    Dam is out for now. State of Ohio forbids interfering with the flow of "drainage" water.
    I had a small dam and the State came in with a backhoe and tore it down.
    I'm thinking of buying a backhoe and making the creek deeper and building a pond or maybe
    two.
    I have three "wet spots" that hold water 'till summer when it rains less.
    Could make three small ponds about 8 ft. at deepest and maybe 50 ft. across or so.
    I'd stock 'em with bluegills and catfish and bait fish.
    Ponds attract deer, waterfowl, and most there furry edibles.
    I suppose one could use the ponds for drinking water if one treats the water to make it potable.
    I have cattails in the creek. A great source of food if one just knows how to use it.
    I have and it's just fine for eating.
     
  4. Arkane

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    What about importing a Beaver would the .gov destroy a beaver dam? is it protected in Ohio? just an idea as I have no idea of the laws there!
     
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  5. jeager

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    Sometime in the past before I bought the place there were beavers that did dam the
    creek. Remnants of the dam are still there but beavers are gone.
    Importing a couple isn't a bad idea at all and I'll give consideration to live trapping a couple.
    Got to keep that low profile as it might be illegal.
    No way would I harm a beaver.
     
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  6. explorerx7

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    Buying bottled water is probably defeating the purpose for being off the grid, even though it could possibly come to that, but it should only happen in very extreme cases. If you are going to prep then you should be doing it in the most effective way. You should have had in place backup power; battery or generator supplied, then you would not have had the water availability problem.
     
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  8. Keith H.

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    Well I would suggest you start with considering solar power. A petrol powered pump will overcome your problem, but only so long as fuel is available. Storing your water in tanks is a must. We have a variety of tanks for different areas, but we have two 5000 gallon cement tanks for the main house. The lower one is fed from rain water off the roof of the main house.
    A 1000 gallon poly tank is also fed from the roof & it is for the main house gardens. We also have Cattail Pond with a fire pump which also feeds the gardens at the main house & the cottage higher up. We have ordered another 5000 gallon water tank which will be fed by rain water from the cottage roof. This will be gravity fed like the other tanks down to the main house.
    Keith.
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  10. jeager

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    I have a 6000 watt gennie so I think that would power the water well pump 'till
    the gas runs out.
    I like the big holding tanks and filling then with rain run off from the roof.
    Winter would be problematic when it freezes however.
    Melting snow isn't going to work because we haven't had the snowfall we
    once did in past decades.
     
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  11. Keith H.

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    Our water pipes are poly pipes & are insulated & buried underground. Water pumps are drained when not in use. The water tanks don't freeze on the bottom, & the mass of water retains heat from the sun, especially in cement tanks.
    Keith.
     
  12. jeager

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    Thanks Keith.
    I totally forgot about the huge mass of a huge water tank.
    Small bodies of water freeze before huge bodies of water will.
     
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  13. jeager

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    Does it get cold enough to freeze in NSW?
    I thought it was semi tropical.
     
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  14. Tom Williams

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    How deep is well ? Most pumps areqq 220 volt so geerator must be able to produce 220 large stone placed in creek in zig zag pattern will slow flowand make water deeper beaver move after food is gone or were trapped out by trapper
     
  15. Keith H.

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    Australia is a big place, depends of where you are in NSW. We are on the Northern Tablelands in New England. We are getting ice already here now.
    Keith.
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    Taken in our forest.
     
  16. jeager

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    Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
     
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    What about using rain water? This is partly why using rain barrels is so popular. It is one of the ways people use water when they have a water shortage of want to be enviromentally friendly. If you live in an area that rains alot it might be a useful alternative.
     
  18. jeager

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    I think my well is 150 feet deep.
    It's never run dry even during a summer drought which is pretty rare
    where I live.
    My 10 h.p. genny is 220 vt. capable but I think it only has one 220 outlet.
    I really should drain the old gas and fill with fresh.
     
  19. Tom Williams

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    Well too deep for hand pump or 12volt system your generator is choice if you have fuel. Stream and good filter would be best choice id say. 12Volt system with collection tank with filter too house
     
  20. Okaviator

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    Getting a water disinfectant setup might be the way to go. If there's is a well around your place, there must be a water source. So now your challenge is to use that water source in a way that can get you fresh drinking water.
     
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